Apple Brings Lion Internet Recovery to More 2010 Macs

[atMac]

Pro users don't need (want) Lion period.

Really? tell that to my video, developer and designer departments. They can't wail till I roll out Lion so they can start on new client iBook work. Even before that they were asking for when it would be released for them to upgrade to.

 

[Desterado]

Saying "pro users don't want Lion" is ignorant.

There are some that do and some that don't.

Just like many things people choose to use them and choose not to.

I don't see how Lion is bad for pro users but I would like to know why.

 

[Pegamush]

I don't see how Lion is bad for pro users but I would like to know why.

in my personal experience i find lion to be, GUI speaking, too much ios-like.
too much bouncing and floating, somewhat slow transitions, plus they changed the behavior of spaces, exposè, which was basically the same for the last 3-4 years, with wasn't needed. they even changed the shortcut for spotlight!!! all this combined together is a loss of time, and patience.
i want my OS to work as i'm used to. i'm not going to force myself to change my habits every 12-18 months just to take advantages of the new features of the new os.
oh wait, what's new with lion? icloud (not for pro) facetime (not for pro), airdrop (could be useful), then?

 

[lostngone]

Thank you Apple!

I have a Macbook Pro 6,1 and the installer runs and asks me to reboot but it never applies the firmware.

I am doing a fresh install and will try again tonight...

LET THE HATERS, HATE!!!

After the reinstall of the OS the firmware update did take. I wiped the system and tried the new feature...

I don't care what any of the haters say a completely bare-metal internet based netboot/install is awesome, not to mention on a laptop that is well over a year old.

What other company does this? Microsoft, Redhat, HP, Acer, Dell, Lenovo, Toshiba, Fujitsu?


Thank you Apple!

 

[ixodes]

This development makes me appreciate SL 10.6 & my factory recovery disks more than ever.

Thanks Apple

 

[tom vilsack]

Yes, you are.

You can easily burn a Lion installation DVD useful for any Mac from the install image. As noted about, you can also create a similar installer on a USB stick. So there are two physical media options.

When creating a new Lion disk, a recovery partition will be generated. That is specific for that particular machine, but will allow you to reinstall.

Lion Internet Recovery is really the third solution.

You're getting worked up about nothing.

and the install image is on the mac? where? don't you have to download it first? thus making my point about a included usb stick so much better...

 

[kockgunner]

in my personal experience i find lion to be, GUI speaking, too much ios-like.
too much bouncing and floating, somewhat slow transitions, plus they changed the behavior of spaces, exposè, which was basically the same for the last 3-4 years, with wasn't needed. they even changed the shortcut for spotlight!!! all this combined together is a loss of time, and patience.
i want my OS to work as i'm used to. i'm not going to force myself to change my habits every 12-18 months just to take advantages of the new features of the new os.
oh wait, what's new with lion? icloud (not for pro) facetime (not for pro), airdrop (could be useful), then?

I don't really see how Lion is like iOS like everyone says. The only thing similar is Launchpad which you don't have to use. There's no more bouncing and floating than previous versions. I can see how the slow pop up windows are annoying at first, but really you get used to them after a while. The shortcut to spotlight is still Command + Space is it not? You can always map it to anything you like anyway. The only deal breaker I see is Mission Control and it's new design of Spaces. I feel for those who used Spaces a lot in previous versions of OS X.

 

[McKs]

I don't really see how Lion is like iOS like everyone says. The only thing similar is Launchpad which you don't have to use. There's no more bouncing and floating than previous versions. I can see how the slow pop up windows are annoying at first, but really you get used to them after a while. The shortcut to spotlight is still Command + Space is it not? You can always map it to anything you like anyway. The only deal breaker I see is Mission Control and it's new design of Spaces. I feel for those who used Spaces a lot in previous versions of OS X.

iCal is extremely annoying with the calendars hidden behind a popup button. May be usefull on an iOS sized screen, but not on real screen real estate, especially not with many groups and colleagues with their own calendars. There's no longer a mini calendar. And it's fugly.
Pages is horrible now with autosave and versions. Everybody I know works of old versions, which autosave now happily destroys, and you have to sort of guess what the intended state was once you're too late to make a duplicate. Even if you nake a duplicate, you still have to close the original, and worry about wether you made unintended changes to it.
Having "Don't save..." was so much easier, it's ridiculous.
Autosave in keynote is even worse, because our Keynote presentations get really big, and the autosave proces actually disrupts your ability to work in keynote while it is autosaving.
Files stored on a file server (which, in a pro environment is every file) get auto-saved, but versions are only kept for local copies. So the computer automatically saves your files, but offers no way to restore if you mess up, other than a time machine backup, which may been an hour old. Another huge slap in the face for pro users.
You have to remember to uncheck the stupid "reopen apps" button at restart/shutdown EVERY time, or face the ages it takes to wait for Indesign, PhotoShop and VectorWorks to reopen all of my CAD drawings and impressions I was working on yesterday
There's no longer an efficient way to exposé switch between all open windows, so getting at the right window now takes longer. Since I switch between documents many many times a day, this one really adds up.
Safari's download window (button) is pretty much useless now (I switched to FireFox, so at least that one's solved) Lion is actually making me consider going back to MS Office with the whole autosave disaster.

Generally, everything an experienced user could accomplish in one or two clicks now seems to take one or two clicks more, without offering any benefit at all that I can see.
it's slightly slower, uses more RAM, it's less stable and for what? A more purty animation of a dialog box?
no thanks.

 

[McKs]

Really? tell that to my video, developer and designer departments. They can't wail till I roll out Lion so they can start on new client iBook work. Even before that they were asking for when it would be released for them to upgrade to.

Ibooks is what they want, not Lion. And you better not have a serverbased data storage solution in place, because versions doesn't work with files on a server, but auto save does, and will...

 

[MacAddict2000]

You serious!? Oh this is great, I can wait til' the 2012s come out and install SL on the current 2011s.

I can further confirm the Late 2011 MacBook Pros are still Snow Leopard (10.6.8) capable. I just "upgraded" a brand new 15-inch 2.4 i7 today that was purchased yesterday.

 

[dcmike]

Is anyone having problems after installing this update? My Mac now crashes shortly after booting two times out of three. This all started right after installing the upgrade. Is there anyway to uninstall it?

 

[Tower-Union]

W By the way, you know that 64-Bit Windows and 64-Bit Linux run perfectly fine on that Mac Pro 1,1 - and by fine I mean that unlike OS X, those other operating systems do run with their true 64-Bit kernels.

Yeah, I found that out a few days after I bought a 32 bit version of Windows 7.

 

[atMac]

Ibooks is what they want, not Lion. And you better not have a serverbased data storage solution in place, because versions doesn't work with files on a server, but auto save does, and will...

So you just ignored the sentence I said about how they even wanted it before ibooks?