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Apple Bumps MacBook Pro with Processor, Graphics, Storage Upgrades
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With Ivy Bridge the 13" MBP becomes a quad core while the MBA stays a dual core. Quite a difference. It will not be cannibalized by the Air. Those than want a discrete GPU and a quad core processor with more ports and expandibility will get the MBP. Those that don't need a quad core processor, discrete GPU or the extra ports/expandibility the MBP provides and want a lighter, thinner machine will buy the Air. There will be a much larger divide between the two than there is now.
I still can't believe my specs from 2007 are 2Ghz core 2 duo, 4GB RAM
Four years later, nearly 5
Look what we have now :L Definitely not 4 years of work apple!
Four years later, nearly 5
Look what we have now :L Definitely not 4 years of work apple!
Huh? A 2.4GHz i5 destroys a 2.0GHz C2D. And the 2007 models weren't shipping with 4GB standard. I believe the Macbooks at that time were shipping with 1GB.
I still can't believe my specs from 2007 are 2Ghz core 2 duo, 4GB RAM
Four years later, nearly 5
Look what we have now :L Definitely not 4 years of work apple!
I still can't believe my specs from 2007 are 2Ghz core 2 duo, 4GB RAM
Four years later, nearly 5
Look what we have now :L Definitely not 4 years of work apple!
Clearly you have no idea how processors work if all you are judging it on is clock speed. These are the best mobile processors that Intel currently offers with the exception of two 55W chips that aren't that much better than the highest end 45W chips that Apple is using.
A 2.2 GHz quad core i7 that is used in this current MacBook Pro is roughly four times faster than the 2 GHz dual core in your MacBook Pro from 2007.
This is a nice little update although I suspect the Ivy Bridge update is gonna be huge.
I'm starting to think the 13" MBP is going to be killed off though. I could be wrong. We'll see what happens on the next release, but I suspect we'll see 11 and 13 MBAs and 15 and 17 MBPs on the next cycle.
I could be wrong. I'd love to see a real 13" MBP. If they dump they optical drive and put dedicated video on there and give it at least the same screen option as the MBA, that'd be a sweet little machine.
I'm starting to think the 13" MBP is going to be killed off though. I could be wrong. We'll see what happens on the next release, but I suspect we'll see 11 and 13 MBAs and 15 and 17 MBPs on the next cycle.
I could be wrong. I'd love to see a real 13" MBP. If they dump they optical drive and put dedicated video on there and give it at least the same screen option as the MBA, that'd be a sweet little machine.
I'm not judging just on clock speed, I was just stating my model of MacBook as a reference point. Of course the newer ones destroy an intel c2d, all i'm saying is that, is how far the MacBook has come enough to warrant four years in terms of innovation, and upgraded specification? Maybe in terms of specification but this isn't Apples work, this is other manufacturers. All i'm saying is there hasn't been anything particularly groundbreaking in a while imo
They clearly don't know...the 2.2 GHz quad core i7 blows away my 2.66 quad core Mac Pro 1,1 (2006)
I'm not judging just on clock speed, I was just stating my model of MacBook as a reference point. Of course the newer ones destroy an intel c2d, all i'm saying is that, is how far the MacBook has come enough to warrant four years in terms of innovation, and upgraded specification? Maybe in terms of specification but this isn't Apples work, this is other manufacturers. All i'm saying is there hasn't been anything particularly groundbreaking in a while imo
All you did was list off specs so clearly this was not your original intention. If you want to change the subject then there has been a major redesign since you have bought your MacBook Pro and there's likely to be another one in the 2012 refresh. What more do you want Apple to do?
Definitely not 4 years of work apple!
You're contradicting yourself. First you blame Apple then you blame "other manufacturers"...of course they're at the mercy of intel when it comes to processor technology advancements..
It genuinely was my original intention, I can't remember what generation it was etc..
I guess what I'm saying is that one redesign isn't a lot for 5 years of being a company, and what I want Apple to do is to innovate more
like they did with the phone, and the music industry. In my eyes this isn't something that they've achieved with the computer side of the equation as they have with mostly everything else they've done----------
And that's not a contradiction at all, it's an addition to the reasons why they aren't advancing as fast as they maybe should.
Of course intel will be another contributing factor to the advancements apple make, but it is partly their own as well - such as the hardware design and - if this isn't too off topic, their OS's too. So you want them to change it just for the sake of changing it. Typical.It genuinely was my original intention, I can't remember what generation it was etc..
I guess what I'm saying is that one redesign isn't a lot for 5 years of being a company, and what I want Apple to do is to innovate more
Do you know much much work goes into planning a single redesign for a project as large as the MacBook Pro?As for the last part of your spiel, what do you want Apple to change in the computer industry that they haven't already done? I'd love to know.
OK fellow mac geeks, Buy-out or hold-out
Ok so here's the deal I'm dying for a new computer, my 2007 MBP (what was once a legit customization) is now more shot than shot
I am currently using my mac mini in my office (don't worry i own the store) to update/sync my iPhone and make itunes purchases yada yada
but unless i slave myself setting up my 07CrapBookPro to my tv, i don't have a home computer. I really wanted to buy this upgrade, but I'm hearing this is a "speed bump" and something legit is coming in spring
considering that i always customize to the most legit specs, because i don't want to buy another computer at least till 2018 (lol-yeah ok), should i just wait for the spring (ivy bridge) update? I'm becoming restless but whatever, i can endure .
Ok so here's the deal I'm dying for a new computer, my 2007 MBP (what was once a legit customization) is now more shot than shot
I am currently using my mac mini in my office (don't worry i own the store) to update/sync my iPhone and make itunes purchases yada yada
but unless i slave myself setting up my 07CrapBookPro to my tv, i don't have a home computer. I really wanted to buy this upgrade, but I'm hearing this is a "speed bump" and something legit is coming in spring
considering that i always customize to the most legit specs, because i don't want to buy another computer at least till 2018 (lol-yeah ok), should i just wait for the spring (ivy bridge) update? I'm becoming restless but whatever, i can endure .
Needs for ram are all over the place. Using the anecdote of "my friend only needs" is also really tired logic. Pretty much in any application if you're leaning hard on the page file or scratch disks in the case of Adobe products (dedicated page file) you would benefit from more ram assuming an x64 application build. You must remember that we've only seen a huge push toward these kinds of builds in the past couple years. Before that most applications could not address more than 3GB. In the case of Lion I'd leave at least 2 just for the OS.
To clear this up again, Lion does not require less ram than Windows 7. It is newer. If anything it requires more, but ram is pretty cheap these days so it shouldn't matter too much. Every computer manufacturer is a bit stingy on ram configurations. I kind of hope this changes if they continue to go the macbook air route of soldered in ram.
So you want them to change it just for the sake of changing it. Typical.
As for the last part of your spiel, what do you want Apple to change in the computer industry that they haven't already done? I'd love to know.
No.. God I wish some people weren't so argumentative on here, but hey, it's MR
But of course not for the sake of changing it, for the sake of innovation. And I don't know and neither do you because you don't work for Apple, but I can assume theres a lot that needs to be done for a MacBook release.And again, I don't work for Apple, I don't come up with the ideas, all I know is that as a consumer, I don't see a radical difference between any computer (in terms of design) on the market and a MacBook Pro, apart from of course, that it's more aesthetically pleasing.
You don't see the innovation on the MacBooks, like you did the iPhone for example, that is what I'm trying to get across.
So what radical difference is there between an iPhone an Android phone? What radicle difference is there between an iPad and an Android tablet?No.. God I wish some people weren't so argumentative on here, but hey, it's MR
And again, I don't work for Apple, I don't come up with the ideas, all I know is that as a consumer, I don't see a radical difference between any computer (in terms of design) on the market and a MacBook Pro, apart from of course, that it's more aesthetically pleasing.
You don't see the innovation on the MacBooks, like you did the iPhone for example, that is what I'm trying to get across.
It's called vertical integration and software. Your analogy is terrible. The Mac set up the groundwork for the iPhone and iPad.
If the current machine meets your needs then buy it. If it doesn't then wait. There will likely be a redesign next year along with the typical spec bumps across the board. If you're buying a 13" MBP I'd advise waiting, if you're buying a 15" or 17" MBP it's your call.
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you have legit concerns... but basically since we are about 6 to 8 months away from a major redesign i would wait unless you find a deal... for example the kindle deal two months ago....other than that i would wait....
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I couldn't find reference to the chip they used, how'd you find out?
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I still can't believe my specs from 2007 are 2Ghz core 2 duo, 4GB RAM
Four years later, nearly 5
Look what we have now :L Definitely not 4 years of work apple!
like omg.. I have a 2.4 GHz Northwood Pentium 4 from 10 years ago... I CAN"T BELIEVE WE'RE STILL AT 2.4 GHZ! *freaks out*
That's actually far from certain. It's more likely the high-end 13" MBP will be Quad, and the lower end models will be dual... they still want affordable MBPs.
I assume you mean the 15" model. Because the 13" models use the same integrated graphics as the Air.
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I said it first
Nice Update
... on the low-end 15" MBP. This is now a best buy, IMO.
As others have mentioned, Ivy Bridge will increase the efficiency/speed (not the same as frequency) of CPU processing dramatically, but perhaps the most exciting development will be Haswell, which is supposed to cut the power requirements of the CPU in half.
Let's see how long I can wait ....
... on the low-end 15" MBP. This is now a best buy, IMO.
As others have mentioned, Ivy Bridge will increase the efficiency/speed (not the same as frequency) of CPU processing dramatically, but perhaps the most exciting development will be Haswell, which is supposed to cut the power requirements of the CPU in half.
Let's see how long I can wait ....
The rating for processsors is in ghz not gb and the rating for cache is in mb!
Get it right!!
Someone else as well, get it right you lot!!!!! Hard drives in gb, processors in ghz, cache in mb, memory in gb!!!!
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Oh we have been talking about ditching the optical drive, adding discrete graphics, and a "mSATA" SSD in addition to the mechanical disk for ages now.
The 13" MacBook Pro also needs a resolution bump to 1440 x 900 like its Macbook Air sibling. I would like to get a 13" model but the display and graphics solutions are lackluster for me. Also, my experience with Apple's Windows driver support has been nothing but miserable. I might as well save my money at that point.