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Apple buys Data Center ($45M-$50M)
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Just enter "waverley and santa rita, palo alto, ca" into the Google map page. The Steve's house is the east corner lot at the corner of Waverley and Santa Rita in PA.BornAgainMac said:
If your map software takes an address - it's 2101 Waverley St, Palo Alto, CA, 94301.
It's just another house in the neighbourhood - although since Jobs knocked down the house next door (on Santa Rita) for his garden his lot's a bit bigger than average for the street
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AidenShaw you just made my life a little more complete... as weird as that is to say about knowing where someone lives
Probie said:
as someone who has snuck into secured areas to photograph them (a video surveilled, razor-wire enclosed, oil refinery/shipping terminal along the atlantic seaboard) I have some advice:
1) beware are dogs, they are quieter than you think
2) don't bring anything with you that you'd be regret having taken away from you
3) wear good running shoes that are also water-tight
4) you need to remember #3 because you might have to end up escaping through a bog
5) do it during the day so you don't have to use the flash
6) if you have to dig under a fence, be sure to check for underground barbed-wire first, or just don't dig with your hands
and most of all, have fun (but don't break anything)
Damn 107,000 spuare feet of area would store ALOT. How much would iTMS consist of now? I estimated by multiplying amount of songs (app. 3,000,000) by about 5 MB per song.....its only about 15 TB. surely 107,000 square feet can hold way more than that!!!! HD content would be ALOT more than music.....id say this is for HD content on iTunes
AidenShaw said:Just enter "waverley and santa rita, palo alto, ca" into the Google map page. The Steve's house is the east corner lot at the corner of Waverley and Santa Rita in PA.
If your map software takes an address - it's 2101 Waverley St, Palo Alto, CA, 94301.
It's just another house in the neighbourhood - although since Jobs knocked down the house next door (on Santa Rita) for his garden his lot's a bit bigger than average for the street
Is this steve job's house??
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I agree with all of those who are writing that the timing of this article is not a coincidence. It's not as if they purchased this building last night. The great - and frustrating - part of Apple is knowing that there is a plan for product releases, etc, in the future. That's why we're all on here reading page after page of these forums. It wouldn't shock me if this is included in tomorrow's announcements - it wouldn't shock me if it wasn't.
As a sidenote, I think that Steve, if he wasn't already, will probably pull something out of his sleeve to cast a shadow over Microsoft so large that their annoucement won't see the light of day. A little dramatic? Yeah. Hey, I like writing.
As a sidenote, I think that Steve, if he wasn't already, will probably pull something out of his sleeve to cast a shadow over Microsoft so large that their annoucement won't see the light of day. A little dramatic? Yeah. Hey, I like writing.
This isn't a big deal, really. iTunes, .Mac, Movie Trailers, The Apple Store, they all require data center space, quite a bit of it actually. Apple is most likely currently leasing it from companies that run data centers like The Planet, or runs their own data center that is significantly smaller than this. They had the chance to pick up their own data center, or a larger one than the currently have at a reasonable price, so they bought it.
On top of that, any space that they aren't using right now can be leased out to other companies.
On top of that, any space that they aren't using right now can be leased out to other companies.
AidenShaw said:
Well yeah, but 1 feature film at HD should be able to hold all the financial data for several years. Transactions notwithstanding, business data pales in comparison to multimedia. Even email is paltry to what apple has on iTMS. You certainly wouldn't need 100k sqft+ for that.
JohnMcKee said:
Nope. Unless times have changed, iTMS runs right out of 1 Infinite Loop. Although they used to run on Sun equipment, it's Xserves/RAIDS now. In addition to the inevitable movies, Apple is also helping out Universities with podcasts with iTunes U.. There's little doubt that will take a bit of storage. Especially if interest is as high as the EDU chatter suggests it is.
Ding! Shamus wins!
Right you are. 107,000 sq ft is not too far off the size of a typical Target store. Holy cow.
I'm willing to bet it's expansion of itms, but I'd put money on full-length movies. Them's some big TBs goin' in there.
Unless they're finally going iTVo in tomorrow's announcement...
Right you are. 107,000 sq ft is not too far off the size of a typical Target store. Holy cow.
I'm willing to bet it's expansion of itms, but I'd put money on full-length movies. Them's some big TBs goin' in there.
Unless they're finally going iTVo in tomorrow's announcement...
Bubbasteve said:
Ya...definately server space....for their website...expanding of iDisk/hosting their own website...ive noticed slowness in the itunes servers lately
I seriously laughed out loud at this! This place has been completely insane the past few days and your post hit me just right! Thank you!
P.S. This chinese writing isn't the same as the original! It looks like the two dots are shifted slightly to the left and down. It's obviously a fake!
gekko513 said:What does the chinese writing mean? I think it could be important.
P.S. This chinese writing isn't the same as the original! It looks like the two dots are shifted slightly to the left and down. It's obviously a fake!
People in Newark don't worry about the San Andreas...
The Calaveras-Hayward has a probability quite a bit higher of having a huge earthquake than the San Andreas.
Plus, the Apple datacentre is in the alluvial "soup" near the tidal marshes of the bay - areas that are prone to liquefaction and much higher earthquake forces. (Note that in the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake most of the deaths and severe damage were in sedimentary fill areas several dozen miles away from the quake.)
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Your post is correct - except for citing the San Andreas. We worry more about the Hayward, and people in the East Bay worry much more....
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ps: I work in a building in the marshy areas around the Bay. Our buildings have big diagonal steel bracing, our computer rooms have the racks bolted to the floor, and any computers on shelves are strapped or bolted to the shelves (and the shelves are bolted to the floors or walls). Buildings and equipment can easily (perhaps not cheaply, though) be built to withstand tremblors.
That's why a class 7 earthquake in California (e.g. 1989) causes the loss of life of a few dozen people - when a similar strength quake in Iran, Turkey, Pakistan or China can kill tens or hundreds of thousands.
Newark is much closer to the Calaveras-Hayward Fault System than the San Andreas. (http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/FaultMaps/122-38.htm)beaster said:
The Calaveras-Hayward has a probability quite a bit higher of having a huge earthquake than the San Andreas.
Plus, the Apple datacentre is in the alluvial "soup" near the tidal marshes of the bay - areas that are prone to liquefaction and much higher earthquake forces. (Note that in the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake most of the deaths and severe damage were in sedimentary fill areas several dozen miles away from the quake.)
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Your post is correct - except for citing the San Andreas. We worry more about the Hayward, and people in the East Bay worry much more....
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ps: I work in a building in the marshy areas around the Bay. Our buildings have big diagonal steel bracing, our computer rooms have the racks bolted to the floor, and any computers on shelves are strapped or bolted to the shelves (and the shelves are bolted to the floors or walls). Buildings and equipment can easily (perhaps not cheaply, though) be built to withstand tremblors.
That's why a class 7 earthquake in California (e.g. 1989) causes the loss of life of a few dozen people - when a similar strength quake in Iran, Turkey, Pakistan or China can kill tens or hundreds of thousands.
CA not NJ
Uh, I think the map may be helpful. The place is in CA. I'm not sure what this means, but I can only imagine that IT realestate is held at a higher premium here than Newark NJ. Of course, prices are independent of use (except for zoning, which would play a role), but the Newark CA location is much closer. Plus, Steve could probably walk over there and play around with the toys he helped invent...somewhat. Steve, you r0x0r5!
KaiMac said:
Uh, I think the map may be helpful. The place is in CA. I'm not sure what this means, but I can only imagine that IT realestate is held at a higher premium here than Newark NJ. Of course, prices are independent of use (except for zoning, which would play a role), but the Newark CA location is much closer. Plus, Steve could probably walk over there and play around with the toys he helped invent...somewhat. Steve, you r0x0r5!
I have a crazy theory: what if Apple's buying this so they can move existing services from someplace else, which they will then sell or lease because they no longer need it? I know, not very exciting.
And re Tier 4... was the price good even if it were lower tier? Maybe Apple doesn't actually need Tier 4 at all.
And re Tier 4... was the price good even if it were lower tier? Maybe Apple doesn't actually need Tier 4 at all.
I'm starting to long for the days of elevator photosgekko513 said:What does the chinese writing mean? I think it could be important.
AidenShaw said:
Thanks for saving me the trouble of typing this up
. Another thing to consider is that the entire Silicon Valley is nestled between California's two major fault lines, and yet there they are. Like residents (and recently, temporarily expatriated ones like myself), the companies there don't particularly mind where they are. This facility wasn't dumped because they got scared, it was probably dumped because MCI is too poor to afford it and therefore also too small to need it.While untold millions almost certainly went into the building, a never-occupied 2001 datacenter isn't that long in the tooth, especially since it's empty and unoccupied. Any revisions and modifications are easy enough since the big costs of retrofitting have to do with moving the servers around and getting to the building services.
Okay let me get this right, 1 Infinite Loop is where all the the countries iTMS content is being kept. That's amazing that communication data can be handled at 1 prime location. That must be like 10,000's off MB worth of bandwidth. I'm guessing through a 1 major line too?
A View to A Kill
Anyone checked if there is any stange mining operations going on? I heard that Zoron enterprises was making a come back.
Anyone checked if there is any stange mining operations going on? I heard that Zoron enterprises was making a come back.
I was pretty sure that EU has a central location, as does Australia...not sure on that though, thought I read it somewhere.
XServe count?
since I:
1) dont have specs on hand
2) dont know anything about spacing requirements
3) dont have a calculator
4) and tired as h3ll
Does any one know how many 42U XServes that would be? I suppose it would be important to throw a *few* RAIDS in there too....HUGE! aren't those things like 107 lbs a piece?
Maybe Steve is saying the hell with VTech, Ill build my own damn supercomputer...that would be sweet. But pointless for the company, *edit* unless they seek to rent it out or something. I'd buy some time...like 3 seconds for 1 million dollars, and then owe money forever *edit*.
since I:
1) dont have specs on hand
2) dont know anything about spacing requirements
3) dont have a calculator
4) and tired as h3ll
Does any one know how many 42U XServes that would be? I suppose it would be important to throw a *few* RAIDS in there too....HUGE! aren't those things like 107 lbs a piece?
Maybe Steve is saying the hell with VTech, Ill build my own damn supercomputer...that would be sweet. But pointless for the company, *edit* unless they seek to rent it out or something. I'd buy some time...like 3 seconds for 1 million dollars, and then owe money forever *edit*.