Chupa Chupa
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I see the wannabe lawyers are once again shaking their fists in outrage because Apple's muti-billion dollar competitors like BB, HTC, Moto can't match wits with Apple.
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Apple Buys Up Touch Panels Delaying RIM's Tablet Release
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I see the wannabe lawyers are once again shaking their fists in outrage because Apple's muti-billion dollar competitors like BB, HTC, Moto can't match wits with Apple.
LagunaSol
macrumors 601
The iPod hasn't see ANY competition in the past 10 years and they seem to be doing fine with pushing that product line.
Juan007
macrumors 6502a
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Good for Apple. They knew years ago they would be selling millions of iPads so they secured the supply. It pays to be a tech LEADER not a follower. Too bad so sad for all the companies whose tablets weren't conceived until the day after iPad 1 launch.
"Oh you want some LCD, sorry we're out. Apple bought our entire production three years ago."
Good for Apple. They knew years ago they would be selling millions of iPads so they secured the supply. It pays to be a tech LEADER not a follower. Too bad so sad for all the companies whose tablets weren't conceived until the day after iPad 1 launch.
"Oh you want some LCD, sorry we're out. Apple bought our entire production three years ago."
Abusing what position.
Its simple supply and demand.
NOTHING is stopping RIM from going to the manufacturers and offering MORE money than Apple. NOTHING.
On the other side, the manufacturers cannot make enough panels to keep up with Apple (Apple's customers) demand for the panel (the iPad).
In any business if you want more of something quicker when it is in limited supply the cost is going to go up.
It has nothing to do with abusing market position.
RalfTheDog
macrumors 68020
The other companies can't buy in the volume Apple does because their customers don't want their products. When RIM can sell more devices, they will be able to buy more parts.
Every choice you make has consequences. If Apple were to put in a non integrated graphics card, they would have less battery life, their Macbooks would be bigger, weigh more and have greater trouble with disposal of heat.
This is not what Apple customers want.
Nothing is stopping RIM from paying MORE than Apple to secure supply for their product.
Its simple supply and demand.
There is a limited supply and massive demand.
What does that do to price?
The simple fact of the matter is that Apple is willing to shell out the cash to get what they need to fill the demand of their customers.
You know I used to say this same thing but honestly, I think this statement is irrelevant. There is a difference between being competitive in a market and creating your own market all together. They did this with both the iPhone and iPad in particular. Apple's desire to make "revolutionary" products simply stems from a desire to make "revolutionary" products. They don't seem to be affected too much by outside influences. RIM doesn't come out with the storm and Apple rush an iPhone to compete. Apple stays on a consistent product cycle, releases products with features that leave other companies boggled and doesn't look back. I honestly think even if these other companies gave up trying to compete, Apple would still make great products because its in their DNA to do so.
Some of these creations I promise you sat in Ive's office for years undiscovered until someone thought it a good time to release.
RalfTheDog
macrumors 68020
Nonsense is saying a company that has more demand than they can supply should give parts to companies that can't sell anything they make.
When RIM can find people to purchase their stuff and Apple can't, RIM will have a point.
Not quite but close. You almost repeated what I wrote. Any company can pay more for the piece parts but then you price yourself out of the market. Look at how well that served the Xoom.
But what I am saying is this is not a monopoly power in play but a monopsony. They are really different dynamics in how they are controlled and play out.
notjustjay
macrumors 603
I can't believe the number of positive votes and gloaters we have in here. Aren't you the same people who are outraged because you can't get your iPad 2 because the scalpers bought them all up?
Look, if Apple dominates the tablet market because the iPad is genuinely better than the other guy's tablet (and don't get me wrong, I think it is) and that causes Apple's sales to far eclipse everyone else, then GREAT! People vote with their wallets and the dominant winner is clear. But if Apple becomes the dominant player because, heck, they're so big that they can simply BUY THEIR WAY to the top, then that's not really fair for anybody, is it?
Isn't that how Windows got their market share? Because Microsoft got so big that they could start dictating deals to the PC makers? Didn't we bash them for "forcing" Windows on consumers, not giving them a fair choice?
Look, if Apple dominates the tablet market because the iPad is genuinely better than the other guy's tablet (and don't get me wrong, I think it is) and that causes Apple's sales to far eclipse everyone else, then GREAT! People vote with their wallets and the dominant winner is clear. But if Apple becomes the dominant player because, heck, they're so big that they can simply BUY THEIR WAY to the top, then that's not really fair for anybody, is it?
Isn't that how Windows got their market share? Because Microsoft got so big that they could start dictating deals to the PC makers? Didn't we bash them for "forcing" Windows on consumers, not giving them a fair choice?
apple was supposed to have bought up all the smartphone displays as well, yet it's easy to buy an Atrix, Inspire or any other android phone. manufacturers just use screen sizes that apple doesn't use
ten-oak-druid
macrumors 68000
Eventually the ipad will only be 0.1%.
0.1% of the number of documented viruses on tablets that is.
0.1% of the number of documented viruses on tablets that is.
bbeagle
macrumors 68040
Apple would probably HURT the competition more by easing up production of iPads allowing competitors to buy up more screens.
See, the competitors would buy too many screens, then never be able to sell their crappy devices, thus lose a lot of money and go bankrupt.
Then Apple would have the whole market to itself. Genius. 😀
See, the competitors would buy too many screens, then never be able to sell their crappy devices, thus lose a lot of money and go bankrupt.
Then Apple would have the whole market to itself. Genius. 😀
RalfTheDog
macrumors 68020
scalpers nothing, it was customers. People want the iPad.
RIM is no Google. I can't picture them using more than 10,000 in the same time frame
Sorry. Not seeing the pun in your retort. But I'm generally inebriated 98% of the time. Try again between 6:00 and 6:15 A.M.
toddybody
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If that were true then why does Apple bless the 15inch with a dedicated solution and not the 13? Battery life? Optimus switching (something they already tout), bigger? the 13" and 15" are the same thickness...the 17" is .02" thicker yet has the SAME spec options as the 15". Footprint is NOT the issue...its a simple price/feature model(want more? pay more). Personally, I think THAT is not what Apple customers want.
Now, I agree with you that they cant go slapping a GTX480m in there for the reasons you cited🙂
PS: How did my earlier post imply that Apple should "give parts to companies"...etc ? Apple can do what they like, I just prefer that competition has a chance to push the envelope.
DiamondMac
macrumors 68040
Love my iPad
With that said, it is absolutely idiotic to want no competition for Apple in any product
I'm sure Apple appreciates your enthusiasm to kill the competition. I have no doubt they will repay your gratitude by allowing you to pay more for their products.
Too funny. 🙄
I love all the posts that say, "competition is good, keep Apple on its toes." Problem is, the competition is just copying what Apple has done. Who else is really innovating anything new? Who else has any sort of long term vision of where technology can take us? RIM, MS, HP? Doubtful. Google? All they want is to know everything about you to improve their ability to sell marketing information.
Apple making smart business decisions will only force others to rethink, innovate and create their own demand. Or die. Sorry if you don't like how the free market works.
Popeye206
macrumors 68040
Hummm... maybe Motorola has some spare Xoom screens they could share with RIM? Oh... the size thing.... Hummm...
The Tab! There should be about 1 million+ channel returns coming back on the TAB 1.0... Samsung may have some stock that RIM could work with? A little glue and tape and there you go! 😛
Copycat tactics or not, it's still competition which is good for us consumers. That includes the not-too-bright Apple fanboys who may think otherwise.