More room for it to be surrounded by car parks for all their commuting employees.
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Apple Campus 2 Nearing End of Construction as 'Major Landscape Changes' Take Place
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Way too many morose, depressing and downright resentful folk walking the Earth these days.
I for one cannot wait to see this fully completed. I hope there will be some kind of grand unveiling, perhaps including a tribute to Jobs.
Oh ****...sorry! My bad. MagSafe grumble grumble. RAM grumble grumble. Why did they build this instead of putting a teasmade in the new MacBook Pro?! Grumble ****ing grumble.
Haha. As you were.
I for one cannot wait to see this fully completed. I hope there will be some kind of grand unveiling, perhaps including a tribute to Jobs.
Oh ****...sorry! My bad. MagSafe grumble grumble. RAM grumble grumble. Why did they build this instead of putting a teasmade in the new MacBook Pro?! Grumble ****ing grumble.
Haha. As you were.
The circular design itself is likely more for aesthetics. However, it isn't truly one circular building. It's a series of mostly rectangular structures with a common roof and outer curved facade. In the early videos of the site, it was very easy to see.
I suspect as well that that approach also makes it much easier to sustain dynamic loads in the event of an earthquake.
No, Apple is certainly not giving anyone permission to record their unfinished building. There's no one in any of those videos which means the footage is likely shot on a Sunday, when workers aren't on site.
This community is becoming so toxic. Such a negative view on everything Apple these days.
Interesting... I was going to make an observation that's partially borrowed from one of my co-workers. We both agreed that this big new Apple campus could potentially be the shot in the arm that Apple needs to remain competitive.
A lot of people seem to be viewing it negatively, as the opposite of what the company used to be about, etc.
But from our perspective? One of Apple's ongoing struggles seems to be insufficient manpower to keep working on multiple product lines at one time. Whenever the pressure is on to improve the iPhone, for example? It seems they're borrowing staff from the Mac OS X side to help get it completed on time. And how many good software applications have they just given up on, presumably because they had "more important things" to focus on? (EG. Aperture or products like "Color" and "Soundtrack Pro" that used to be bundled with Final Cut Pro Studio.)
I've always had the impression that Apple was understaffed, but perhaps they found that preferable to getting bloated, with too many hires who weren't really contributing enough? I think with the change in focus from being "Apple Computer" to "Apple (the electronic gadget maker and music and video sales people)" -- there's a need for a much bigger base of employees to get all of it done.
This campus gives some hope that can happen, and maybe THEN we'll see some faster innovation.
But if you want to know why Apple wouldn't just settle for remote software developers? Take a look at the garbage Microsoft has been cranking out lately with the largely Indian workforce. Sure, you can find a bunch of warm bodies who know how to write code, but without making them part of your corporate culture and having the ability to randomly chit-chat, overhear random conversations in the hall or at the water cooler, etc. -- they're at a real disadvantage grasping the whole concept of what you're shooting for as the resulting application.
I don't code myself, but there was a time when I did. And one thing I learned is that you can certainly be a lone developer, working on your "baby" -- and put out a top-notch product. That's because your heart and soul are poured into it and you have the vision of what it's supposed to be. You coded everything in it so you can work on pretty much anything in it. But these commercial projects are team efforts. A bunch of "lone wolves" just coding the little portion they're instructed to code really don't have the vision (or even the pride) in the end product as a whole.
A lot of people seem to be viewing it negatively, as the opposite of what the company used to be about, etc.
But from our perspective? One of Apple's ongoing struggles seems to be insufficient manpower to keep working on multiple product lines at one time. Whenever the pressure is on to improve the iPhone, for example? It seems they're borrowing staff from the Mac OS X side to help get it completed on time. And how many good software applications have they just given up on, presumably because they had "more important things" to focus on? (EG. Aperture or products like "Color" and "Soundtrack Pro" that used to be bundled with Final Cut Pro Studio.)
I've always had the impression that Apple was understaffed, but perhaps they found that preferable to getting bloated, with too many hires who weren't really contributing enough? I think with the change in focus from being "Apple Computer" to "Apple (the electronic gadget maker and music and video sales people)" -- there's a need for a much bigger base of employees to get all of it done.
This campus gives some hope that can happen, and maybe THEN we'll see some faster innovation.
[doublepost=1477959560][/doublepost]There was a time when I would have agreed 100% with this. And for the record? I still think telecommuting is the smarter way for companies to approach hiring for quite a few people in the workforce.
But if you want to know why Apple wouldn't just settle for remote software developers? Take a look at the garbage Microsoft has been cranking out lately with the largely Indian workforce. Sure, you can find a bunch of warm bodies who know how to write code, but without making them part of your corporate culture and having the ability to randomly chit-chat, overhear random conversations in the hall or at the water cooler, etc. -- they're at a real disadvantage grasping the whole concept of what you're shooting for as the resulting application.
I don't code myself, but there was a time when I did. And one thing I learned is that you can certainly be a lone developer, working on your "baby" -- and put out a top-notch product. That's because your heart and soul are poured into it and you have the vision of what it's supposed to be. You coded everything in it so you can work on pretty much anything in it. But these commercial projects are team efforts. A bunch of "lone wolves" just coding the little portion they're instructed to code really don't have the vision (or even the pride) in the end product as a whole.
Hmm, so if one could ever see an itemized bill for the MBP, $300 would be for the "Apple Campus 2" fee
The hate that you talk about is Apple's fault .. They have been lacking in innovation for some time now, and those that love their products are beginning to feel miss-aligned with a company that only seems to care for the amount of $$ that they can get their customers.
It's not the mods job to shut down commenters that feel the need to voice their opinion(s) on how Apple over the last few years have been asleep at the wheel. The mods jobs are to stop harassment (sexual\bullying, etc) of individuals on this site.
The hate on actual threads taking about products are warranted. Hell even I'm pissed off about the price increase on macs and lack of innovation. But every single thread gets off topic and turns into Apple hate. This thread is about Apple campus and it's pretty much Apple hate and zero discussion about the campus.
And having been a mod for a major sports site, it is a mods job to foster good discussion and to keep threads on topic. You can ask one if they are asked to do so or not.
OK, but I didn't say anyting about who designed the Apple Campus. My point is the Apple that Steve Jobs thought would occupy the new facility is going to be a very different one -- not one that necessarily Thinks Different. In fact, if Jobs had not designed the facility I can see them building something less grand because Cook has no vision. Jobs designed the campus before he fell ill again and thought he would be leading Apple when it's doors opened.
Whether it's Apple's fault or not (arguable to say the least) is immaterial to taran420's point. But it does make taran420's point that perhaps it's time for MacRumors to re-evaluate their purpose and rules in regards to how Apple is discussed. If every Apple topic (be it the campus or the new laptop) is always getting hijacked by rants against Apple (valid or not) and, because of this, by defenders of Apple fighting back, then MacRumors is on its way to being nothing more than a site for Apple rants.
Taran420's point, as I see it, is that those with no opinion on these topics should be able to read criticism that is not tied to personal animosity (such as yours) toward the company or its products. Otherwise, they can't tell if the criticism if valid or if it's just something personal. Likewise, they should be able to read valid praise that isn't tied to feelings of defensiveness. If, as tartan420 says, every thread "exhausts" those wanting to seriously explore Apple products or Apple as a company, because they have to wade through rant after rant, than MacRumors isn't doing anyone a service. It simply gives a forum for those who are anti-Apple to rant, and those who are pro-Apple to defend, and no one gets a chance to really discuss what might be of benefit to all.
I'm sure Apple will have some form of a virtual tour for the public and the future keynotes will be really interesting to see in this new facility.
True it would be good to have Steve Jobs leading Apple we need another Steve Jobs at Apple