IMO Apple is ideal software for #BostonDynamics Robots & for #Airbus Pop.Up drones . Apple new CPU's are also perfect for saving energy with these new working & mobility tools. Own Foundries would be great since all these drones ( Robots w/ Rotors on top are just working drones) demand a total smart link between #Neurons & #SpaceTime . IMO Apple+Hyundai+Intel+Tesla make an excellent formula
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Acceleration doesn't matter? I was replying to a post claiming the electric Mustang was faster than a Tesla. Considering top speed is speed limited to 250km/hr in most performance cars (by mutual agreement amongst car manufacturers due to the skills required to handle a car at that speed, and the horrendous high speed crashes caused on German autobahns), acceleration is the only real straight line speed measurement, of which 0-60mph is the most commonly quoted. And no, 3.8s is vastly different to 2.3s, the slower car being left completely and utterly in the dust of the faster car.
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Tesla don't make a car I want to buy either. They either need a hot hatch with great handling (aka smaller, lighter battery (yep, I know, that means LESS range, but I don't need more than 200km max)), and an Audi RS3 remains the pinnacle for me as a practical performance car that I can fit the stuff and people in it that I need and use as a daily commuter; and/or a basic affordable model 3 hatch, again range over 200km is unimportant, and also speed is unimportant, so they can cut the costs down dramatically by cutting the battery size by 60%, and cutting the motor power. However, I said it before, and I'll say it again, Tesla are run by a living genius visionary, and Apple are trading off a dead one, and thus the share price.
To put it in perspective the grandma slow version of a Merc, the A180 does 0-100km/hr in 8.8s, whereas the hot hatch performance A35 AMG does it in 4.7s, which is 53% of the grandma-mobile time. The Telsa S does it in 60% of the Mustang time. Same ballpark of difference, i.e, worlds apart. The A35 would leave the A180 in its dust off the lights, as would the Telsa leave the Mustang in its dust.
I don’t doubt anything. And common cars don’t need sub four second performance in real, every day life. Especially not on busy roads or in town. That’s what I wanted to express.
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I know. Meaningless fun measurement outside of racing days. Matters zero in my commute. You’re not flooring that electric car most times. Sure the difference is impressive but only a single comparison in a long lasting car ownership.
I’ll take the roughly build Tesla over a a Ford any day.
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You think your last sentence is profound or something? You’ve said it like 10 times and each time, you only prove you don’t understand business. Apple is an established company and already delivers the goods. Tesla will have to do the same at some point.
Again, Apple is still 3X more valuable, even at Tesla’s absurd valuation.
Yeah I do think that last sentence is profound. Without Steve Jobs, Apple was and is nothing. Even the M1 chip is the work of Steve Jobs, it's his iPhone chip altered for a laptop. Look at AirPods, wireless earphones already existed, but because of the Apple brand known for quality and design, the AirPods cornered the market. Again, without Steve, the AirPods would be nothing. The wealth created from services? Again, all because of the brand. And quality control? It's gone downhill since Steve died. The freaking butterfly keyboard, that persisted for 4 freaking years. Never would have happened under Steve's watch. The decline in software quality, gah. How long will Apple's steam continue on without Steve? His greatness continues to hold them up. For now.
Apple is 27 years older than Tesla, more than twice its age. Let's see where Tesla is in 27 years. I will be very curious to see where the crazy genius of Elon Musk takes the world, just like Steve Jobs took the world. And THAT is why investors are betting on Tesla.
So, ignore that Apple has added $2T in value (3 Teslas) since Jobs has been gone?
You have lost all credibility.
Jobs was long gone when Apple started doing real work in Silicon. He is so far removed from the M1, it’s a laughable argument. Software? Can you be more generic? Butterfly Keyboards, yes, yes...the core of Apple is their MacBook lineup.
You’re making my point. 27 years from now, Tesla will have needed to deliver the goods For about 20 years...in a huge way. You know how profitable $700B companies need to be? They need to make about $20B in profit, minimum....and that would still be an insane valuation for a car company.
The Ford Mach E is already pretty much a Model Y, some have said with even better tech.
Why didn’t investors bet on Jobs in the same way? I mean, you’re saying every bit of Apple’s success today is the result of someone who has been dead nearly a decade and taken Apple to a $2.3T valuation. This would far exceed anything Elon Musk has done, so why didn’t markets see His genius when he was alive?
I‘ll give you a hint...Tesla’s share price has nothing to do with anything real. It doesn’t even have anything to do with Elon Musk anymore.
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IMO Apple should buy Lit Motors and bring their fully enclosed gyro stabilized electric motorcycle to market.
I’m sure they had some long and deep looks around the industry already... but this would be a nice little two wheeler for sure.
Captain Crook is a bean counting genius, and yep, he's done a great job of cleverly expanding the product/services line, and maximising profits. But there is none of Steve's visionary genius amongst that. Crook is riding the wave generated by Jobs. The stock price chart looks spectacularly in favour of Crook on the linear scale, but if you look at it on the log scale (the true way of comparing growth), then you'll see that the years from when Jobs came back to Apple until he died, actually had slightly greater growth then since then.
And no, the M1 is not far removed. Steve created the iPhone, and created the Apple Silicon that was in them from the start, and many versions since. The M1 is merely an A14 adapted for Macs, there is no visionary genius.
People aren't merely speculating wildly on Tesla, the upcoming product line is there for all to see. The Tesla CyberTruck, and Roadster are mind blowing in both form and function. They are Jobs-esque in their vision and originality. Add to that his massive bet on all things solar and battery powered, and how far ahead of the game he is. And all the other crazy projects he's also working on. And who knows what his mind is hatching up around the corner. And like Apple, the users are rabidly loyal, Tesla owners LOVE their cars. It's a pretty solid bet.
IMO a formula between * Apple+Tesla+Intel+Hyundai* for smart Car/Drones & Space Transports still is the best mix going forward. Hyundai was super smart buying 80% of BostonDynamics robots , financed by US Taxpayers through Darpa/MIT, since a robot with rotors on top is a smart working Drone-Car for deliveries , factories , harbors ,mining, warehouses, etc. Take that car-drone meeting a SpaceShip cargo from SpaceX & you have a Space transportation network linked by Spacelink, ain't that nice ? Maybe Apple should buy TSMC ?
It’s a history lesson not a comparison.
The normal trajectory of the iPod was eventually touch with video. I don’t think anyone was shocked there. But with your logic, it’s now possible for Apple to make anything and everything microwaves, dishwashers, cars, boats etc etc. things that are not even in their wheelhouse.
No one made an mp3 player better than Apple, but lots of folks already make a better EV. Especially Tesla. I think that’s the point of some.
The last paragraph has me interested. How can you compare something that you never saw or experienced to anything else. We don’t know if the Apple car exists. We don’t know when or if it will surface as a product. We don’t know when. We don’t know what it will be like or what the competition will be like upon launch.
Apple took the name changes serious in 2007 I believe. If they want to make it and it somehow falls into their software, hardware or design interests they might pursue it. Heck they even produce their own tv entertainment these days.
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