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I don't get it, besides someone liking the physical card I don't see any reason to use this over another card. It doesn't really compete on anything except perhaps ease of integration with apple pay, but I've never had an issue with any of my other cards. Maybe the charge categorization app will be super slick?
 
Can someone explain what it is with N-America and Credit Cards? Like history and why people use it. Whats so good and convinient about paying interest on money you spend? I just can’t get my head around it.
Where i’m from(and I would say a big part of Europe) , 99,99% use debit cards- you only use money you have and thats it, you have some money- you spend it. That simple. Some people have credit cards as a backup while traveling, but the whole concept of spending money, then receiving receipt at the end if the month and paying againg, God forbid with %...it’s just...how can someone justify it as a smart idea?

If you use it correctly, you are doing pretty much exactly what you are doing now, AND you get cash back rewards for doing so. It's a win-win. No interest and you get $$ back. When i say that's using it "correctly", I mean that for the consumer. In the eyes of the credit card company, someone like this is NOT the ideal customer, because they do not make any money off of you. In their eyes, they want to see Joe Public charge way more $$ on a credit card and carry it over month to month, because of all the interest. You gotta be smart with it. Some people are, some people aren't, and some people just don't care.
 
In any case, I'm sure I'll try the card. It probably won't become my go to card for most purchases but it doesn't have any fees so no harm in trying its feature set.
Same here. My primary card will remain and is already setup with ApplePay but might get one of these to replace one of my others and only have it in ApplePay. No need to carry the physical version, I will use my main card for that. My other backup card is a travel rewards card that has not been that helpful. It never gets used so I never earn anything but I have it just in case.
 
Re: high Apple Card rates....If you're paying interest rates on your credit card balance, you're doing life wrong.

Here's a tip to the 200 billion Americans with CC debt: ffs, if you can't pay cash, don't buy it.

Indeed. Wise words falling on deaf ears. If you have a credit card, you should treat it like a debit card. Always pay on time (or even better - before its due) and always pay your full monthly statement. If you can't, you shouldn't be using credit cards at all. EVER. They will ruin your life.
 
Apple getting into credit cards. I feel deeply uneasy about this but I don't know exactly why. I think it's an uncomfortable look for them but hey, it's yet another potential revenue stream and money is what matters - don't let Apple ever convince you of anything else - despite all the empty platitudes and virtue-signalling at their events. Also don't be fooled by the Apple privacy hype. Goldman Sachs are apparently being trusted with all the information.

Apple has had a co-branded credit card with Barclaycard for years.

https://cards.barclaycardus.com/banking/cards/barclaycard-visa-apple-rewards/

Also, if you use a debit or credit card, then the bank and processing network will know how much you're spending and where. How else would they process the transaction?
 
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I won’t ever use a credit card again... don’t care who’s behind it.

I like the fresh approach to credit, but still won’t get me to sign up and borrow money.

See you about 10 minutes after someone in your family goes into a hospital.
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Re: high Apple Card rates....If you're paying interest rates on your credit card balance, you're doing life wrong.

Here's a tip to the 200 billion Americans with CC debt: ffs, if you can't pay cash, don't buy it.

Does that apply to cars, homes, and food as well?
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Okay I have a question.... so I have a balance to pay. I choose to pay the entire balance. How do I do that? Check, another credit card? Just how do I pay my card balance month to month?

You have the money you need to pay drawn out of your bank account.
 
Can someone explain what it is with N-America and Credit Cards? Like history and why people use it. Whats so good and convinient about paying interest on money you spend? I just can’t get my head around it.
Where i’m from(and I would say a big part of Europe) , 99,99% use debit cards- you only use money you have and thats it, you have some money- you spend it. That simple. Some people have credit cards as a backup while traveling, but the whole concept of spending money, then receiving receipt at the end if the month and paying againg, God forbid with %...it’s just...how can someone justify it as a smart idea?

For me it's insurance and perks. If someone gets my cc# and makes a charge, I just call and get it reimbursed. If someone gets my debit card number and makes a charge, I'm out of luck. At least that's how it was, I haven't looked back into it in over a decade. Maybe debit cards are better about it now.

If you have a balance on a credit card, unfortunately you would probably be better off not having one. Long term, short term life happens.
 
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The national average APR across the 100 top credit cards is around 17.5%.

If you average Apple's 13-24% its actually above the average by 1% at 18.5%. Though, I have no idea how weighted each end of that range will be for the total membership will be. In theory if it weighted more towards the 13% end it could be lower.

The way Apple introduced it I kinda expected like 5% to 12.5% max but then once I heard a bank had to be involved that was a pipe dream.

I pay my CC bills every month so this has never been a real concern for me. But Apple making it sound like it was ground breaking low seems like some straight up nonsense.
 
Who cares about the interest rate? You shouldn't ever carry a balance on your credit card. Credit cards aren't ever the right tool for financing purchases. They're for convenience and security.
noun: a right, immunity, or benefit enjoyed only by a person beyond the advantages of most.

Must be nice.
 
I want to know how easy it will be to transfer it over to a new iPhone every year.
 
I pay less than 6% on my MasterCard , I pay no annual fees, no late fees.
I only put something on credit when its interest free AND I get a good deal. Last MBP I bought was during a sale and I got 10% off AND interest free for 36 months, bugger Apples deal, too expensive.

wow that's an incredible rate, the current fed rate is 2.5% so that means your bank is only making 3.5%.... They don't even do that for their high net worth millionaire clients with perfect credit scores... I mean at 3.5% it probably costs the bank more to issue the card and distribute the money to vendors than what they make....I would hold on to that card forever.
 
Well, my AMEX Delta Sky Miles Platinum card still has a lower interest rate. Plus I get SkyMiles with every purchase. In addition, by being a Plantium card member, I can check 2 bags for free on every flight. And the card comes with American Express' extended warranty guarantee on anything I purchase. I'm not bragging, but I don't see Apple Card offering any perks like that (specially if you fly a lot!).
 
It applies to everything if you're paying 24% APR.
I think what Kaibelf is trying to say is that not everyone can pay for cars or home in cash so they have to finance which means using credit. That involves interest rates.

Saying “If you cant put down cash for it don’t buy it” can be somewhat of a misnomer. Not everyone has 200,000 to plop down on a home all at once; but they can afford to finance after putting some amount down before financing.
 
noun: a right, immunity, or benefit enjoyed only by a person beyond the advantages of most.

Must be nice.

What the heck are you talking about? You realize credit card debt is something that mostly plagues the poor, right? It's not a tool made to help them, it's a tool made to hurt them.
 
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I’m waiting to see how easy or difficult will it be to pull transactions into financial management software (like Quicken or Banktivity).

Oh yeah, I was thinking how this is going to work with the EveryDollar App. I was planning on using the card for all my purchases (usually just little things around town) and pay it off every couple of days.

Now throw Quicken into the mix. It'll be a bit confusing. At least with Quicken I mainly use that as an electronic check register. I really don't care where I spend my money. EveryDollar tracks where it's been spent.
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I can't say I would be proud to be in the consumer debt business.

Credit cards are very convenient, but they make money off of people who are in a bad situation or use them inappropriately, not those who benefit from them.

I'm with you on this, but I think this is a way for them to have every iPhone user able to use ApplePay wherever they go. Before, if your bank didn't support it, you'd have to load money on your Apple Cash card and I'm sure that was a hassle. Now they just use it and move some money over when they get home.
 
Rewards are kind of meh compared to cards like the free citi double cash 2% everything card. I would love to whip out this titanium card to use with purchases but alas you can't because it only rewards 1% back if you use the physical card. 2% cash back only works with apple pay. The one reason why I'd use the card is to use the titanium card but then you're punishing me for using the physical card. What gives.

I'll be sticking to my sapphire reserve :(
 
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Can someone explain what it is with N-America and Credit Cards? Like history and why people use it. Whats so good and convinient about paying interest on money you spend? I just can’t get my head around it.
Where i’m from(and I would say a big part of Europe) , 99,99% use debit cards- you only use money you have and thats it, you have some money- you spend it. That simple. Some people have credit cards as a backup while traveling, but the whole concept of spending money, then receiving receipt at the end if the month and paying againg, God forbid with %...it’s just...how can someone justify it as a smart idea?

I think the primary thing is security. If someone steals a credit card, they're stealing the bank's money. If someone steals a debit card, they're stealing your money. Inherently the bank has more of an interest in protecting their own money than your money. In other words, a fraudulent charge on a debit card means you might not be able to pay rent until it's resolved; but a fraudulent charge on a credit card is removed from the statement almost immediately while its investigated. While debit cards offer some protections, they're not nearly as good as with a credit card.

The secondary reason is perks. Cash back, points, airline/hotel status, etc. Most of my vacations are half paid for with points usually.

As for the interest rate, you only have to pay that if you carry a balance from month to month. In a way, a credit card is a 0% interest loan until the end of the month. If you pay it all by then, no interest at all. If you only pay some of it, and let some roll over to the next month, then you pay an interest rate. But this is bad to do and pretty much universally inadvisable. Some people call into a trap of credit card debt, and it's very hard to get out of.
 
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