Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
No credit card interest rate is worth carrying a balance. Pay it off every month and the interest rate doesnt matter.
In general yes, but there are also situations where you still come on top carrying a balance (though obviously still not a sound personal finance decision). For example, if you have a 5% back card with 24% APR, you can pay the balance after 2 statement periods and still effectively have a 1% cash back.
 
? My main credit card has a faint, and I mean faint number on the back. I have NEVER been asked to see it, just stick it in the card reader.
Some merchants have strange or outdated requirements. I once had a cashier give me a pen and demand I sign the back of the card (not an Apple Card) before she could stick it into the chip reader.
 
so who forced you to buy all the latest hardware that you have in your signature? Maybe skip one iPhone iteration and you can buy next one outright without financing

Sometimes financing is the best option. As long as you’re not using money you don’t have, having cash on hand instead of paying everything on a purchase might net you a little more given the high inflation we have right now. The same cash today will have more purchasing power than 12 months from now, as long as you’re not paying interest on it. On the Apple Card the interest is 0% and it still gives you the 3% back if you do installments.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jbachandouris
But that'd be un-American 🤣

View attachment 2043718
This is a really disingenuous presentation--the primary reason for the balance differences is the credit card regime.

In Europe for example:
1) Credit Card balances typically must be paid within 30-60 days, in full. No such thing as a FICO score there.
2) Card limits are typically under 5k, and even then they will not extend credit to that amount if it is more than a few hundred over your current bank balance--the bank will call you and cut you off.
3) Typically the bank charges you a monthly fee of a couple Euros for the card.
4) Sign-on bonuses and card rewards are nearly non-existent.
5) Many, many establishments don't accept them, though admittedly this is changing quickly.

The primary reason most people even want credit cards is for online shopping or traveling to places like the US, as they don't have much purpose otherwise, since the bank already gives you a debit card and you have to pay the balance in full on any credit card--gives the low (often negative in recent years) interest rates, a "float" of 30 days isn't really all that attractive.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jbachandouris
That is really old fashioned!

In Europe all of this is done right at the table… and often completely contactless with Apple Pay.

Strange that the US is so behind the times. I would think it'd be leading the way! 🤷🏻‍♂️


Thank you for explaining that. What a curious way to do it…
I can definitely see how it could run into problems if dealing with hotel reservations etc.
I have a new Chase card here in the UK, it's app based and the physical card shows no number. I have a card from another bank that has the number printed on it, and a further card which has the traditional embossed number. I'm old enough to remember the " Clacker " machines where the shopkeeper put your card in the machine with a three part payment slip, drew the mechanism across the card and the number was physically imprinted on the slip. They tore off the top part and handed it to you as your receipt. Sounds archaic, but I was in a place several years ago where the tills were down. The proprieter rummaged through a few drawers and produced a dusty " Clacker " machine and a box of payment slips. ( I'm old, very old...)
 
  • Like
Reactions: arkitect
I have a new Chase card here in the UK, it's app based and the physical card shows no number. I have a card from another bank that has the number printed on it, and a further card which has the traditional embossed number. I'm old enough to remember the " Clacker " machines where the shopkeeper put your card in the machine with a three part payment slip, drew the mechanism across the card and the number was physically imprinted on the slip. They tore off the top part and handed it to you as your receipt. Sounds archaic, but I was in a place several years ago where the tills were down. The proprieter rummaged through a few drawers and produced a dusty " Clacker " machine and a box of payment slips. ( I'm old, very old...)

I’m only 40 and remember when I started work in 1998 those machines were still used for card payments in a lot places in the UK. Card machines were becoming the norm by then though and chip and pin came in 2006. I remember travelling to the States a few years ago and still being asked to sign a receipt for a card payment lol. I was shocked how far behind us they were with that sort of thing. It looks like we are years in front of them with Apple Pay now too. I haven’t carried my wallet with physical cards in it for about 4 years now as most things I buy are done with my phone or watch.
 
In the UK a lot of shops don't take American Express because of the high transaction fees. I wonder if this is the reason It hasn't left America.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tenkaykev
I have a new Chase card here in the UK, it's app based and the physical card shows no number. I have a card from another bank that has the number printed on it, and a further card which has the traditional embossed number.
Yup, UK as well and I have the same mix in my wallet. The times are a changing…

I'm old enough to remember the " Clacker " machines where the shopkeeper put your card in the machine with a three part payment slip, drew the mechanism across the card and the number was physically imprinted on the slip. They tore off the top part and handed it to you as your receipt. Sounds archaic, but I was in a place several years ago where the tills were down. The proprieter rummaged through a few drawers and produced a dusty " Clacker " machine and a box of payment slips. ( I'm old, very old...)
Haha! I'm same vintage. 🙂
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tenkaykev
Yeah, I get that. And if you don’t pay the full amount you start getting interest here, which is tied to the interest rate decided by European Central Bank (ECB). But if you do pay the full amount within 45 to 60 days, there’s no interest at all.
I charge and pay end of the month. Only cards I run a balance are 2 current ones with no interest for 12-15 months.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jbachandouris
Before they expand to other countries, Apple, or rather Goldman should fix their internal processes and figure out how to do a proper credit card statement. Definitely not a "it just works" service.
 
Or because Apple gets all your money :p
Yeah, all my money. You don't see a Mac Pro in my signature.
iPad Pro 11" 3 years old
MacBook almost a year
Apple TV 2 years old
Apple Watch 7 bought by selling old watch and something else (can't remember)
iPhone Pro Max $58/month

Even my TV was barely over $400.

Doesn't seem like 'all' my money.
The judgement on this thread is incredible.
 
I look forward for this service to be expanded in Canada and other countries around the world. I get that it's probably a regulations nightmare to deal with, but I'd be happy to get one in the near future

Apple Cash support would also be nice, although Interac transferts in Canada are not that bad

Interac transfers in Canada is STILL under the Rogers monopoly that the CRTC allowed long ago and will not be resolved until next year - if that. Also after spending another $250 billion Canadian taxpayers money vs fining Rogers for that!

like where were you in Canada 1st weekend of July (July 8th)!?





Although this major nationwide issue with Interac it's most likely going to occur again.

I look forward to Apple Card coming to Canada - even though I'm considering jumping ship to an Android gaming phone. I'm just unsure at the moment.
 
When I got mine, the rate was 10.99% (which was pretty low). It's up to 13.24% now, but that's due to Fed interest rate hikes and every lending institution has went up by that much.

What rate do you rate on other cards?!?
5.7% here.
 
? My main credit card has a faint, and I mean faint number on the back. I have NEVER been asked to see it, just stick it in the card reader.
I'm just responding to a person, who had issues with the AC being accepted. Personally I've never experienced this. All of my other CCs have very visible numbers on them...
 
Interac transfers in Canada is STILL under the Rogers monopoly that the CRTC allowed long ago and will not be resolved until next year - if that. Also after spending another $250 billion Canadian taxpayers money vs fining Rogers for that!

like where were you in Canada 1st weekend of July (July 8th)!?





Although this major nationwide issue with Interac it's most likely going to occur again.

I look forward to Apple Card coming to Canada - even though I'm considering jumping ship to an Android gaming phone. I'm just unsure at the moment.
Yeah I get your point and I’m not defending the Rogers monopoly. But this kind of outage is exceptional, and Interac services has been pretty reliable over the years. Not saying it will never happen again, but there are services far less reliable than Interac
 
  • Like
Reactions: DeepIn2U
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.