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No. I chucked the phone as hard as I could at what I thought was carpet forgetting I put plates there, needless to say there was a giant explosion of glass and ceramic that shattered literally everything. The other time I put my phone down hard and it caught the metal tip of my keyboard and it acted like a glass punch.

Regardless who cares 2 cracked screens in over a decade of not using a case and zero modern phones cracking with the ceramic shield. So why would I cover a beautiful device "just in case" its stupid do you wrap your car in bubble wrap?

The amount of money I saved on the cases more then makes up for the small change needed to replace a screen. Especially if you have Apple care
Cases are freaking expensive these days and I always buy more than 3... and I want to go nekkid so bad. lol
 
Over time almost everyone drops their phone
The Aluminum on the 17 Pro & pro
max is going to scratch or dent. If you care put a case on
By the way a Hard case(like outbox which I hate) will up your odds of survival
Apple will not replace an IPhone for scratches or dents
 
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Just because someone doesn’t use a case doesn’t make them stupid and careless. Everyone takes care of their devices differently and it’s up to them on how they care for their devices. I have AppleCare+, do not use a case, have the silver 17PM and use a glass screen protector on the front, as well as glass protectors on the back for the MagSafe square and camera plateau. I do not regret going caseless for 1 second.
 
With regard to this thread now turning into a case user versus caseless thread, I'm simply going to state that if you do not know my stance on not using cases by now - then you haven't been here for very long. Do a search and you'll find it. There's a big old merged thread about it too.

I don't have AC+ and I will put my caseless phones up against any case user's phone. Because I'm not careless. I have rules (for myself) and I stick to them.
 
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Anyone can claim this though. I could start a thread claiming my cousin at the Apple Store says most repair requests have been for the regular 17.
 
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Or newcomers to smartphones (or Apple from Android?!) are somehow thinking these things are indestructible unless Superman sits on them?

To compare, the old Samsung Galaxy Note 10 was 5.9oz (~2.3 ounces less than the 17MP's 8.2oz), had a 6.3" screen, and was also made with aluminum for its chassis; keeping it in a case and dropping it from 4' never damaged it. The 17PM can't be a magnitude worse than that unless someone took a big packet of chewing gum powder and mixed it in with the molten aluminum. (Are today's aluminum alloys really significantly weaker?)

True, add in calculations for velocity and impact against various substances, I suspect a halfway decent and properly-fitting case would avoid a lot of service calls. Or calls worried about the new Orange model turning Grapefruit on them, though I think the combination looks really cool despite being unintentional, nor is that affect happening to everyone with the orange model so that just suggests a bad batch...
That device had a wrap around back cover nearly covering the entire phone which was anything BUT aluminum.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/285276216642

Describing this as made entirely from aluminum or being comparable to aluminum unibody device is rich as hell.
 
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The OP specifically mentioned the iPhone 17 Pro; tangential statistics seemed futuile.

iPhone Air 17
Allstate Protection Plan testing claimed 190lbs bend failure
JerryRigEverything claimed 216 lbs bend failure
I think the exact force gonna depend on how you secure the phone and conduct the test. Gonna be difficult to get the same measurement by 2 different tests with different equipment and methods.
 
They're also replacing phones that experience charging noise from the bottom speaker with phones that have the same issue. And they still can't determine if it's a hardware or software issue. Therefore, these issues won't improve phone availability.
 
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Over time almost everyone drops their phone
The Aluminum on the 17 Pro & pro
max is going to scratch or dent. If you care put a case on
By the way a Hard case(like outbox which I hate) will up your odds of survival
Apple will not replace an IPhone for scratches or dents

In which case, the cases that protect the phone to higher-foot drops (certain models from Rokform, Supcase, Zagg, et al that can handle 15' or more and the more = the merrier) seem that much more paramount a consideration. If a maker can't protect a phone from larger drops, which is inevitable after a certain point, then a case is just necessary. If a case can actually handle big long drops, then from smaller drop they'll be protected that much more - thus less likely to get a dent. Given the cost of the phone and what's covered or not, if the phone itself can't be built to withstand significant drops (especially if someone is like me, clumsy) then protecting it the best one can is the next best thing.

That said, you're right about hard cases adding bulk. YMMV; I'm okay with it as it subconsciously forces me to keep holding it with a grip but a lot of people understandably don't like the bulk. Phones are going to be big regardless (and the 17PM packs a lot of punch in its form factor, I love mine.) But then we also have the Air models, whose production is being ceased, because they lack the battery life or other features in order to be so lightweight. Never mind the bending risk that's inevitable for any circuit board. Until we get a meteor made from real Kryptonite, the laws of physics aren't going to change much.
 
That device had a wrap around back cover nearly covering the entire phone which was anything BUT aluminum.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/285276216642

Describing this as made entirely from aluminum or being comparable to aluminum unibody device is rich as hell.

Good to know, thanks! I'd only done a cursory lookup of the Note10 at the time:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/9/20799085/samsung-galaxy-note-10-frame-aluminum-steel-video
The Verge confirmed that aluminum was the material it was made from.
 
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