HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Yes! Ideally multiple people who are not the typical names getting first "reviews" for every Apple product launch.
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Apple 'Carefully Orchestrating' Vision Pro Reviews With Multiple Meetings
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Yes! Ideally multiple people who are not the typical names getting first "reviews" for every Apple product launch.
Not for me.
I would much rather see someone who has considerable real life experience using AR/VR devices in a wide variety of situations.
However... I don't think there're many out there. Thus Apple wanting to step in helping reviewers suss out what AR/VR is used for, and how AVP can be employed.
I’m with you here, the whole thing is just weird and to me shows a lack of confidence with this device.
I kind of get the impression Apple want to get something in the VR space out there but they know it’s a compromised device so don’t want to make too much of a deal of it. But being Apple it’s hard to launch a new device category without it being a big event, there is naturally a lot of expectation.
There were reports before the unveiling that senior execs were divided over Vision Pro and it really shows.
A breath of fresh air from someone who gets it. Rather than assuming Apple is doing something shady or is insecure about AVP - that cracks me up.
Thank you!
Can you imagine the "reviews" coming from the knee-jerk "apple is evil and the AVP will end humanity as we know it!" crowd? Of course Apple is going to hand select who gets first shot. Which business doesn't do this?
Most reviewers worth their salt will understand that it's a balance. The device will be in the wild a couple of days after they are allowed to publish. So, their work will be scrutinized.
And starting the 2nd, there will be hands-on in-store demos. There will be no shortage of information being released.
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lol. 100% guaranteed iJustine was the first person on their list. She would make a regular Apple smartphone case seem like it’s revolutionary and nothing we’ve seen or used before.
Haven't you found at least one reviewer you trust to be objective?
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
IMO, the processing of "reviews" is simple:
I lean pretty positive on Vpro based on what it appears to be able to do. But final judgement awaits that "with my own eyes" experience.
- Ignore the "friends of Apple" ones available immediately on or even just before launch because those will be loaded with overwhelming gushing praise that Vpro is practically perfect in every way... and then some.
- Ignore the opposite of that crowd who will only be able to see flaws and nothing of merit... that every possible thing and then some is WRONG with this product.
- The ones in between the 2 extremes will tend to offer real value for someone thinking of spending $3499+ for Vpro. Unfortunately, those will only begin to hit about a week+ after these can be possessed in the wild. By then, both of the above will have gobbled up most of the eyeball-driven ad dollars by being first with "reviews."
I lean pretty positive on Vpro based on what it appears to be able to do. But final judgement awaits that "with my own eyes" experience.
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It’s alarming. They’ve never done this before.
For Apple to control the message could infer a few things
- it’s not fully baked.
- the tech is very new and needs more handholding
-YouTubers are dumb
-Apple is concerned
What we can say is that this product will not be a smash hit. What costs almost $4k after tax is for that matter?
Curious, is there any reason this product wouldn't carry Apple's standard 14-day return policy? Couldn't someone around here start a thread asking others for input about what they'd like to see, snag a VisionPro, answer the questions, then return the thing? Or keep it, if they like it that much.
and this is different how for other products?
I read (watch if I have to) all reviews with a grain of salt, but its pretty clear who the ones kissing up are versus the ones trying to give a reasonably fair and balanced review are. I don't see this as being any different.
Except always? Every single time?
Developers who tested the Apple Vision Pro were impressed with its quality.
This happens in one form or another naturally every time a new product is released. There is the 'I just got my XX' thread and people pile in with questions and there is always someone that starts the 'my first impression of xx' and often a 'I read on reddit that it sucks' thread.
Problem is, that takes a day or two, in this case early February, and many of us will have our fingers over the return key on pre-order day which is January 20 (ha faked you guys out, front of the line here I come). And some people will not want to wait those intervening weeks in fear of the delivery time stretching out for months (which it often does).
So yep. You'll get your questions answered have no fear. Problem is, what happens if you like it?
I would have thought MacRumours would buy one and do something like that.
I think I’ll wait on Nilay Patel and The Verge to do their review of this.
I sense Nilay might say “this is the best experience of VR in it’s class” and also “it’s a solution looking for a problem”.
I sense Nilay might say “this is the best experience of VR in it’s class” and also “it’s a solution looking for a problem”.
Apple has never controlled the message about a new product?
That's news to one of the 4 people hand picked by Steve Jobs to do initial reviews of the iPhone: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pogu...view-first-iphone-10-years-ago-132309031.html
Even with products that are not for a new area, Apple has been very careful with early reviews and reviewers for decades.
Really we can say that? What is a smash hit anyway, what is your definition? I think Apple will sell all they can make, and I believe it will be well covered in the press / reviews. Not sure if that means a smash hit, pretty sure it doesn't mean a flop.
And...gosh... I can think of a LOT of things that cost almost 4k (or greatly over) that people get excited about. Is that a smash hit? Heck my last Disney cruise cost more than 4k and it was a smash hit with my family. The Tesla probably qualifies as a smash hit (especially after an accident). People that own them seem rather attached to their XDR displays.
I think you are confusing volume sold on the street corner with smash hit.
Makes one wonder how long they can keep getting away with that though. It seems everyone understands what this “influencer culture” is but still falls for it anyway.
Avoid any reviews that come out before it launches, and even the ones that do, be leery. In today's world, most are bought and paid for in some way or another.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Probably forever. That "everyone" would be some people here who come to see through the marketing tactics. The world at large never gives any of this much thought, then hears about something new from Apple and goes in search of information and "reviews."
Check the numbers of the "friends of Apple" reviews after even 24-36 hours and you'll see numbers far greater than best guesses of how many frequent a site like this one. Those will gobble up fresh "reviews" as gospel... especially when they cross-check with a few others and see similarly gushing praise.
Larry Magid's 1984 review of the original Macintosh
Hey look! Steve Jobs was actively choosing reporters to whom he demo'd the original Mac!
Hey look! Steve Jobs was actively choosing reporters to whom he demo'd the original Mac!