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* Foreign language versus coding? That's apples and oranges.

* It figures Cook would devalue foreign languages -- he doesn't speak any.


You just made me realise something.
This is exactly what he does on Stage when speaking about products.

He rubbishes anything Apple does not offer to customers.

Apple does not have one for sale = it's a poor product, a bad idea.
Apple now has one for sale = It's the best product ever, you should buy one.

Sad little man.
 
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Cook said: "I think if you had to make a choice, it's more important to learn coding than a foreign language. I know people who disagree with me on that. But coding is a global language; it's the way you can converse with 7 billion people."


Really?

No. Just as some people say Mathematics is a language you can use to communicate they are mistaken.

"Code" won't help you communicate with ordinary people (Yes, note to software engineers, that is the vast majority of the human race)… it won't help you around the Ballaro in Palermo or deal with ****** service in Germany.
It sure as hell won't help you buy a cup of tea in Yorkshire.

Though I guess TC's solution is probably just to speak American LOUDER… you know until the natives understand his "code".

****.

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Sorry Tim, this time you lost it. Language is the most powerful means of interaction, it is also the most flawed - but it is words, sounds and grammar which manipulates people, which makes them actually DO things. It is about real communication. What you are proposing is that A=B is the same as „This hamburger is the same as the other hamburger“, when it is not and can never be.

Coding is more important than language learning?
Coding is more important than intercultural exchange?
Coding is more important?
Are you kidding me?
Coding is for computers.
Language is for human interaction.

This is the one time, I‘m really pissed about Tim Cook. Sorry, number cruncher, this is too much.
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But can he code?
Agree. The man doesn't know what he is talking about in this instance.
He should stick to counting beans.
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* Foreign language versus coding? That's apples and oranges.

* It figures Cook would devalue foreign languages -- he doesn't speak any.
You are probably correct in that.

And news flash… in the future Putonghua is going to be the language to know… He should know that by now.
 
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Let me present to you, Outside of the US(tm): where people speak a whole bunch of different languages.

But of course, the TV app is still missing here, so what does it all matter?
 
The most interesting and beautiful places are where people are natural, speak a natural language, and are far away from technology.
 
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I disagree. If we put the cognitive skills that would come with learning a foreign language and look at only the skill, then learning Chinese isn't necessarily as useful as learning a programming language. Almost every person who is under 30 in China speaks some level of English, usually much better than the average Chinese learner could master Chinese. Besides, with the influx of better and better translation algorithms out there, the need to know and use a foreign language is starting to become increasingly redundant.
Go and try to do some business in China with just your translator algorithm and see how far you can go.
Meanwhile, there are a ton of Indian software engineers that can code. What is your value now? Yes, Silicon Valley wants you to code so they can get software programmers at bottom prices.
 
Cook has easy talking as one of the dullest, least entertaining and anti-social people on the planet (nobody would know him if he was not chosen by Steve)
But that path didn’t happen. And now he is ceo of the most valuable, recognized company in the world. And Apple has grown under his leadership. And he isn’t going anywhere ( much to some people’s dismay)
 
I'm starting to wonder if Apple actually manufactured Tim Cook.

He was running fine when he was new, but now after a few years, he's been patched which has reduced his performance, and we need to upgrade him to get a new fully performing model again.
 
Oh how mistaken he is. If I can repeat my young life, learning more foreign languages would be the top things I would do. Simply learning a language like Chinese can take you to far more places than knowing java/phyton. People do business using human language, not codes.



Yes, but "doing business" is not getting actual work done.

It's like saying you "built a house", when all you did was pay contractors to do the actual work and then sign-off on the bills...

It's good that he tries to curb the social media use of people around him.
People have no idea what they are doing by uploading so much data to these companies.
 
Meanwhile, you folks act as if "learning a foreign language" actually means learning a foreign language. In the US, language instruction is fairly common, depending on where you live, from early schooling through college. But, I know plenty of people that after years of schooling never learned the language. I imagine not learning coding would be just as useful as not learning German.
 
Oh how mistaken he is. If I can repeat my young life, learning more foreign languages would be the top things I would do. Simply learning a language like Chinese can take you to far more places than knowing java/phyton. People do business using human language, not codes.
The google boys might not agree about this.
 
But that path didn’t happen. And now he is ceo of the most valuable, recognized company in the world. And Apple has grown under his leadership. And he isn’t going anywhere ( much to some people’s dismay)
Ah, really..
So he's supposed to meet launch times for announced products, save the org from errors and dismay, pay taxes like anybody else instead of skimmy deals with His Donaldship, stop economic exploitation in the Far-East, serve the environment with truly serviceable/recycleable designs.
And after that start the spurious and commercially-inspired false political propaganda that nobody asks him for. All non-issues meant to distract from batterygate are so cheap and obvious.
Doing so instead lowers his credibility to near-unmeasureable.
 
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Ah, really..
So he's supposed to meet launch times for announced products, save the org from errors and dismay, pay taxes like anybody else instead of skimmy deals with His Donaldship, stop economic exploitation in the Far-East, serve the environment with truly serviceable/recycleable designs.
And then start the spurious and commercially-inspired false political propaganda that nobody asks him for. All non-issues meant to distract from batterygate are so cheap and obvious. His credibility is unmeasureably low.
Doesn’t change anything I said, especially the “to some people’s dismay” part. It’s “gratifying” to see how some devalue his contribution with random hyperbole.
 
Doesn’t change anything I said, especially the “to some people’s dismay” part. It’s “gratifying” to see how some devalue his contribution with random hyperbole.
That's reasoning like Tim - unaware of context, without realising or taking consequences. Selectively taking the little facts that only comfort you
 



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Apple this morning announced the expansion of its "Everyone Can Code" initiative to 70 educational institutions across Europe, and following the announcement, Apple CEO Tim Cook spoke at Harlow College in Essex, one of the schools that will adopt the new curriculum.

The Guardian shared several of Cook's comments, which covered overuse of technology and boundaries for children.

Cook said he believes there are concepts that can't be taught using technology, and in many courses, technology shouldn't dominate.According to Cook, Apple cares about children out of the classroom, a topic that's notable as Apple investors recently urged Apple to do more to protect children from smartphone addiction.

Apple in early January said in a statement that it thinks deeply about how its products are used and the impact they have on people, including children. Apple takes its responsibility to protect children "very seriously," and has promised more robust parental controls for iOS devices in the future.

Though he does not have children of his own, Cook says in his own personal life, he "put some boundaries" on his nephew. "There here are some things that I won't allow; I don't want them on a social network," he said.

On the topic of learning to code, Cook spoke passionately, as he has done several times in the past. Learning to code, he says, is more important than learning a foreign language.Cook's full commentary, which covers diversity, coding at an early age, and the importance of the press, can be read over at The Guardian.

Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook: I Don't Believe in Overuse of Technology
The headline makes it sound like he is saying he doesn’t believe technology can be overused.
 
Clearly, he does think people overuse technology to their detriment. That's why Apple products continue to be worse and worse during his reign as CEO. Apple revenue is still on the Steve Jobs innovation bubble, and that's slowly deflating. A few more Apple Watch disasters are on the horizon.

Nice swipe at social media from a non-parent, too. I'm sure Facebook thought that stung (not).
 
Clearly, he does think people overuse technology to their detriment. That's why Apple products continue to be worse and worse during his reign as CEO. Apple revenue is still on the Steve Jobs innovation bubble, and that's slowly deflating. A few more Apple Watch disasters are on the horizon.

Nice swipe at social media from a non-parent, too. I'm sure Facebook thought that stung (not).
How many years will the Steve Jobs innovation bubble last? I would like to know so that at some point in time I would like to give Tim credit where credit is due. However I’ll wait until after the Steve Jobs innovation bubble expires.
 
How many years will the Steve Jobs innovation bubble last? I would like to know so that at some point in time I would like to give Tim credit where credit is due. However I’ll wait until after the Steve Jobs innovation bubble expires.
In fact, there is overlap. I don't know what Steve's contribution to AppleWatch (and Airpods, HomePod) was but I think Cook mainly deserves credit for that.
Same for AppleMusic, Video content, AppleCar - whichever disaster or success that is supposed to be
 
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There's millions of apps in the App Store already and 98% of them are useless junk. Why on earth do "we"need more app makers (developers).

I'll tell you why- Developer fees.
Everyone should learn to code (iOS apps). Ha!
 
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