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This really stinks. It’s making me consider not buying any Apple products until Tim is succeeded. I don’t care whether it’s not Apple. He’s top dog. Why would he financially support a bigot and a criminal? As someone said earlier, Biden didn’t get this. This is the new politics of America I guess.
 
This really stinks. It’s making me consider not buying any Apple products until Tim is succeeded. I don’t care whether it’s not Apple. He’s top dog. Why would he financially support a bigot and a criminal? As someone said earlier, Biden didn’t get this. This is the new politics of America I guess.
With the recent rulings he is officially an Adjudicated Rapist. Also a Convicted Felon. He can't take those away and it's shameful that people thinks thats ok for a President. Aside from the grifting of trinkets that he is constantly doing as President. What an embarrassment to the highest office in the land.
 
With the recent rulings he is officially an Adjudicated Rapist. Also a Convicted Felon. He can't take those away and it's shameful that people thinks thats ok for a President. Aside from the grifting of trinkets that he is constantly doing as President. What an embarrassment to the highest office in the land.
That was the whole point of the sham trials: to convince people he was guilty of crimes they had to desperately try to come up with.

An embarrassment to the land is pretenidng the dementia patient has even been in charge of anything the past four years when he doesn't even know where or when he is. And unlike an evidence-free accusation from 30 years ago, Biden is on video SA'ing a minor (she confirmed he had done it) among many other incidents. Of course the difference is one group doesn't get charged even when it's a slam-dunk case while the other, they will move mountains to find a way to charge and convict 'by any means necessary'.
 
Here is a list of every donation to Biden's inauguration. As you'll see, companies like Amazon ($276,509.85), Apple ($43,200), Google ($337,500), Microsoft ($500,000), etc. donated (as I said) a relative pittance (Meta didn't donate at all!). And, importantly, they did it quietly, not after publicly bending the knee to the incoming president and his billionaire puppet master.

Nobody claimed "no company has ever done this;" of course companies have been donating to inauguration funds for decades. But we've never seen company after company trip over themselves to curry favor with an incoming president—particularly one who has repeatedly promised to weaponize the federal government to hurt their businesses and prosecute their executives—by licking him up and down before donating millions to his inaugural slush fund.

What we're already seeing has no precedent in modern (at least) American history. You can deny reality to support your guy all you want, but some of us still care about truth and believe what we're seeing with our own eyes over what some hacks on Fox or right-wing podcasts tell us.

You're conveniently glossing over the companies that donated $1 million dollars or more that I listed above. Why is that? Oh right, because it doesn't fit into your narrative that companies have never done this before.
 


Apple CEO Tim Cook plans to donate $1 million to Donald Trump's inauguration fund, reports Axios. The donation will be a personal donation directly from Cook rather than a donation from Apple.

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Following Trump's win, Cook congratulated him on social media site X, and in December, Cook had dinner with Trump at Mar-a-Lago. Cook aimed to maintain a relationship with Trump during Trump's first term as president, and it appears Cook plans to continue on with that plan going forward.

Sources that spoke to Axios said that Cook is donating to the inauguration "in the spirit of unity." Apple is not expected to make a donation.

Trump is taking office as Apple faces regulatory pressure both in the United States and in other countries. In March 2024, Apple was sued by the United States Department of Justice for allegedly violating antitrust law in multiple ways with its platforms. The Apple vs. DoJ legal battle will play out during Trump's term.

Amazon, Meta, Uber, OpenAI's Sam Altman, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Coinbase, Toyota, Ford, GM, AT&T, Black & Decker, and Charter Communications are also making donations to Trump's inauguration fund.

Note: Due to the political or social nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Political News forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook Donating $1 Million to Trump's Inaugural Fund
Ewww gross
 
With the recent rulings he is officially an Adjudicated Rapist. Also a Convicted Felon. He can't take those away and it's shameful that people thinks thats ok for a President. Aside from the grifting of trinkets that he is constantly doing as President. What an embarrassment to the highest office in the land.
Blame Hillary Clinton and bill Clinton. Plenty of precedent.
 
Folks need to stop saying “TDS”

People are reacting to real actions taking place before our eyes

There is no “derangement”

(The D in TDS)

Also, people using the TDS acronym know what they are doing.
It’s generally being used as a pejorative towards others
The "TDS" is not for people who simply dislike or disagree with him. It's for people who live in a manufactured false reality about him.

It's come up in this thread because posters have made comments about how much Trump supposedly hates gay people, despite all evidence to the contrary (ie. being the first president that never opposed gay marriage, appointing the first gay cabinet member, etc). The "derangement" is how no matter how much people demonstrate the opposite is true, they ignore it all and live in their fictional bubble where they are correct and refuse hear anything but.

Further to that, this story was on the same day Trump appointed Tammy Bruce, who is openly gay, to the State Department.

So yeah, there completely is "derangement" going on at times, and you don't get to control others' speech on the matter.
 
Partisan questions here, IMO, are not the thing that matter ultimately, what a sad statement on how extreme the US has gone in the "pay to play" nature of our government.

Not that that aspect hasn't been in the mix forever (it's human nature and unavoidable), but over the past few decades (the Citizens United decision by SCOTUS in the early 2000s being a tipping point, but it started long before then) campaign finance has absolutely gutted any kind of representative government.

Republican/Democrat/whatever, it really doesn't matter because those are, at this point, vapid distinction in label only because there is only one party: money. This is absolutely a confirmation that access to law making/executive function (and even increasingly, we are learning, judicial influence as high as SCOTUS) to favor your business objectives, box out your competitors, and/or push whatever agenda you'd like (regardless of Red/Blue/whatever) is available for purchase.

One could argue that it has now become so entrenched now that if you do not participate, you risk shirking your duty to your company by losing a seat at the table. At what point does campaign finance and such things (again, I am not making a partisan statement, this is across all parties and all candidates, because it is systemic and has been for decades) something like this more resemble "protection money" (the kinds of schemes that are illegal as organized crime) simply with a thin veneer of "politics" in front of it?

For those of us in the US who are voters, I hate to say it, collectively, we have allowed this to happen. Incrementally. We have given up control of our government to the highest bidder.
If I might paraphrase Orwell: Everyone is corrupt but some are more corrupt than others.

It is true that money corrupts our political system but there can be no question that Trump and the Republicans are far more corrupt by an order of magnitude than the Democrats. Please don't both sides this thing.
 
Nothing remotely like this. Companies donated relative pittances to Biden's inauguration, and did so quietly. We've also never seen business leaders go out of their way (literally) to kiss the ring of the incoming administration. And Trump II hasn't even started yet!

I get the urge to be cynical, but claiming that this is nothing new or that both sides do it is just not true and definitely not helpful.

Unfortunately, whether intentional or not, you're distorting the truth to support a narrative. It's important to be clear and objective about the facts. I'm going to provide facts about Biden's campaign and inauguration not as a knock against him at all but because that's the thing you brought up as if it were different.
I'm not being "cynical." I'm talking about the real world as it is. There's nothing unique here. This story is getting people riled up — as evidenced by the hundreds of posts here — but it's just business as usual.

Look, we aren't talking about donations to the NRA or National Right to Life here. This is just funding a big — and for those of us who live here in DC, super annoying — party.
 
This really stinks. It’s making me consider not buying any Apple products until Tim is succeeded. I don’t care whether it’s not Apple. He’s top dog. Why would he financially support a bigot and a criminal? As someone said earlier, Biden didn’t get this. This is the new politics of America I guess.

You do realize that Apple needs influence with the Trump administration since it manufactures so many of its products in China and Trump has threatened huge tariffs, don't you? Apple already had to kill Project Titan due to the Biden administration's 100% tariff on Chinese EVs.
 
You do realize that Apple needs influence with the Trump administration since it manufactures so many of its products in China and Trump has threatened huge tariffs, don't you? Apple already had to kill Project Titan due to the Biden administration's 100% tariff on Chinese EVs.
Then why didn’t Apple make the ‘donation’?
 
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Trump doesn't like or hate gay people. Just like Trump doesn't like or hate America.

Trump uses everything and everyone to his advantage. Period.

He's not a patriot, that's a costume he wears. It's all a grift.

He's not a christian, that's just a joke he plays on the religious.

If it's in his perceived best interest to marginalize or aggrandize anyone or anything, that's how Trump will act.
 
Do you have proof that he hates gay or transgender people or are you just repeating what the media tells you to say?

Hatred is hard to prove. I doubt Trump really cares one way or another. He just parrots positions that he thinks will get him the support he needs from the constituencies he courts. Here are some his public anti-LGBTQ+ stances:

* Historic opposition to same-sex marriage.
* Public statements in 2016 saying he would consider appointing Supreme Court judges who would overturn Obergefell v. Hodges.
* One-third of his judicial appointments had records of anti-LGTBQ+ bias.
* He reversed Obama-era rules requiring companies with federal contracts prove compliance with LGBTQ+ protections.
* He rolled back Obama-era protections against LGBTQ+ discrimination under the ACA.
* His first administration's stance in legal cases was that civil rights laws do not cover sexual orientation.
* His personal support for Florida's "Don't Say Gay" bill in 2022.
 
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It kind of ruins, permanently, any moral high ground that Apple ever tries again in the future. They openly supported the horror that was to come soon for the United States. They are kissing the ring, hoping to suck up enough not to get on the bad side of a dementia-ridden psychopath.
 
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Or...and stay with me here with this crazy idea...Tim really is being savvy!

After all, it's not like Tim went to the Biden White House 87 times, right?

And it's not like there weren't positive interactions with the Obama administration, even maybe multiple times, even while the White House and Apple were getting into it publicly on privacy issues.

And surely Tim Cook didn't donate over a quarter million to Hillary Clinton's Victory Fund — which unlike this money for a big party is money that actually was spent on attempting to defeat DJT. Right? Surely he didn't. After all, that would be damning to any argument that Cook is somehow a closet Trump supporter.

I've always found the term "Trump Derangement Syndrome" to be dismissive and insulting and just aimed at picking a fight. This is the first time I've ever thought to myself, "Wow, yeah, OK, maybe I can sorta see it."

I hate that I feel that way. But when you flip out about every single little thing having to do with DJT, it diminishes your credibility when you talk about the very legitimate issues with him. And those very legitimate issues just get lost in the sea of political noise.

It's not just unhelpful. It's actually counterproductive.

Wanna know a big reason DJT won? That stuff. Check out the exit polling and post-election polling. Look at the numbers for middle income voters as well as self-identifies independents and partisan leaners.

Look, folks. It's just a stupid party. I get that every little thing probably hits a raw nerve, but keep your eye on the ball here.

P.S. Since I've gotten some downvotes when I have literally posted facts in this thread, I'm looking forward to the downvotes here where I've actually expressed an opinion! As Audrey put it so eloquently, "Feed me, Seymour! Feed me!"
 
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I'd disagree. There are people who will tell you that Trump hates Gay people. But when you point out that for decades, and I mean decades, the Clintons, Obamas, and Bidens repeatedly blocked and opposed Gay marriage you just get a shrug of the shoulders and "Well, Trump hates gay people!"

Or the "Trump is a liar!" Which my response to that would be that all politicians are liars. Pick one and I can find multiple lies that they've told. But people will just come right back at you with a shrug and say "Trump is a liar!"

Or "Trump put people in cages!" When you point out that Obama was doing the same thing and actually built the cages you are met with a shrug and "Trump put people in cages!"

So I do think there is such a thing called TDS. I don't think everyone has it but some people do. I can even point to this particular thread where someone said "No companies donated this amount to Biden's campaign! This is shameful!" But when I pointed out that multiple companies donated a million dollars or more to Biden's campaign I was met with "No, only Trump!" Which just isn't factual.
Ok, since you have ignored some responses with follow up information because it was inconvenient to your argument, and since you’re playing the role of Trump Defender, how about this: Trump is on board with restricting trans Americans’ rights:



I’m sure that you happily support these things, but I really “love” (/s) when people constantly try to do Whataboutism to defend their preferred politicians. Tribalism at its best.
 
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