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Maybe you prefer to buy from companies who love to put "Made in America" on their products where the only thing actually Made in America is slapping the knobs on before it goes in the box. I prefer all the jobs created in multiple American companies across multiple states making components.

I actually have no preference if it's Made in America or not. His comment is just amusing because of how the truth is bent.
 
Not to mention all of the design, engineering, programming, etc. that goes into everything Apple makes.

Focus on manufacturing is shortsighted, but that’s to be expected from a certain demographic these days. It’s the same thinking that leads to efforts to kill our solar industry (and essentially hand the technology of the future over to Germany and China) in order to save a few thousand coal jobs. It’s idiotic.

We should be focused on, and proud of, all the HOMEGROWN BRAINPOWER that gives us things like the iPhone.
Exactly this. There's no shortage of skill to assemble iPhones here. The states are just unfriendly to those factories, as they should be. We don't need that here. I'm actually scared of how much coal and oil we're producing now. It's surely taking the focus away from higher-skilled jobs.
 
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If parts are produced in the US, the products assembled in China, then delivered to the world, then Tim, let us talk about the carbon footprint of an iPhone.
All those shipping containers bringing 'stuff' from China need to go back when empty for another load of 'stuff'. Perfect for shipping those bits made in the USA to China.

A few years ago, the BBC bought a container and after painting it, it was put into use. For a year, it was tracked around the world. From memory, it only once was transported empty. That is ( and to use a word that lots of people hate) how globalisation works.
 
Getting super tired of the half truths in the world today. Yeah sure some parts are made here, but most aren't. And y'all route your income through Ireland too so why's that? You wanna claim to be all SUPER USA, then bring your income home and pay your got dang taxes. And don't ask schools to pay $300 for ipads when they can't afford heat or to feed the kids. (because there isn't enough tax money for them)

Maybe the local taxpayers should actually approve school bonds and levy increases once in a while, as long as we're talking half-truths and misunderstandings.
 
A “fair” wage in China would be far less than a “fair” wage in the US. Foxconn could give everyone a 10x raise and it wouldn’t come close to what people doing the same work here would need to make ends meet, much less thrive.

How many Chinese made goods do you have in your house? We’re all complicit, every day. Yet Apple is repeatedly held to a completely different standard.

That’s not how it works. Those workers are being exploited. Only Apple’s choreographed PR campaign keeps most customers from seeing this.

I’m sure I have Chinese made goods in my house. I make an effort to buy American for everything I can. As for Apple, it should stop virtue signaling on how wonderful it is that it uses cheap foreign labor....

If those workers are so special, then Timmy should ask for them to be brought over to the USA on H1-B Visas... and pay them American wages....

Or Apple could simply hire Americans and build them here.
 
It's why we're still the best nation on this planet, so... sorry.

„Best“ is certainly in the eye of the beholder. You could even shade my own country and I would probably agree in some regards simply cuz it is just redic to claim any country is the „best“. Makes you sound arrogant. What if I don’t like guns? or for instance I love not needing schools to have their own police like it’s the Wild Wild West and not having to worry about a medical bill if I get in a car accident. See, not really „the best country“ of i care about those things

Anyway OT
 
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Lol. Seriously true, though. People can argue what's best for the USA, but arguing against the USA will only make them stronger. It's never a winning strategy.
Sorry but I honestly don't think American culture supports workers doing meticulous, tedious, repetitive work. We have too much ADD, need for immediate gratification, plenty of work breaks, side time to comment online and tweet. Our culture is miles different than the culture in those manufacturing places (as they get more exposed to how the West lives they might become dissatisfied with their work, too, and then there better be robots to take over or we are screwed). Americans aren't interested in picking fruit, so we hire immigrants who will. Aren't interested in cleaning hotel rooms, so we hire immigrants. Cleaning up puke and urine in nursing homes, so we hire immigrants. It's time we admit what we ARE good at and do THAT. Admit we love cheap clothes, cheap furniture and cheap electronics at Walmart and let the manufacturing of those things happen where it makes sense. America (and most of Europe) is at the point in our evolution where our jobs have to change and some jobs will die off. Yes, we can still make expensive custom things in small batches for the wealthier people. Craft beer and custom furniture. But the vast majority of mass-produced goods will be made in other countries and it's not a sin to embrace that because it allows us to spend the saved money on other things, like service and entertainment industries, that HAVE to happen here because they are spontaneous.
 
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That’s not how it works. Those workers are being exploited. Only Apple’s choreographed PR campaign keeps most customers from seeing this.

I’m sure I have Chinese made goods in my house. I make an effort to buy American for everything I can. As for Apple, it should stop virtue signaling on how wonderful it is that it uses cheap foreign labor....

If those workers are so special, then Timmy should ask for them to be brought over to the USA on H1-B Visas... and pay them American wages....

Or Apple could simply hire Americans and build them here.

If Chinese workers are exploited, why do they line up in droves to get the jobs? Are you really willing to take their jobs away or make them move away from their families who they'll probably never see again? Just so a bunch of Americans can take their jobs and then b*tch and moan about how boring and repetitive they are, quit and new people have to be trained again. Americans who have a MILLION other kinds of jobs they could train for instead because America has a million more opportunities than a Communist country. What a ridiculous, first-world privilege thing to do.
 
But that begs the question... Isn't that what an item should cost? Like the avocado debacle a few months ago; if the real price of an "All-American avocado" grown and picked by someone who makes $15.00/hr is 10 bucks, then maybe that's just what it should have been all along.

And I, for one, would not buy a $10 avocado. So, no jobs for anyone.
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Getting super tired of the half truths in the world today. Yeah sure some parts are made here, but most aren't. And y'all route your income through Ireland too so why's that? You wanna claim to be all SUPER USA, then bring your income home and pay your got dang taxes. And don't ask schools to pay $300 for ipads when they can't afford heat or to feed the kids. (because there isn't enough tax money for them)


A lot of good points. But, keep in mind that, as far as USA taxes are concerned, that Dutch-Irish tax avoidance sandwich is impacting Federal taxes only. Very little of that money going to go for education, at least given the current government's priorities.
 
That’s not how it works. Those workers are being exploited. Only Apple’s choreographed PR campaign keeps most customers from seeing this.

I’m sure I have Chinese made goods in my house. I make an effort to buy American for everything I can. As for Apple, it should stop virtue signaling on how wonderful it is that it uses cheap foreign labor....

If those workers are so special, then Timmy should ask for them to be brought over to the USA on H1-B Visas... and pay them American wages....

Or Apple could simply hire Americans and build them here.

And you could pay 2x? 3x? as much for you iPhone.

I’m sure a quick audit of your home would turn up countless Chinese made goods from clothes to shoes to kitchen appliances to electronic gadgets and tech. “I make an effort to buy American” rings hollow. Sorry. I’ll take you seriously when you stop buying Chinese made goods. Or get off your moral high house and recognize that ALL American companies who manufacture in China are just as “bad” as Apple.
 
He does have a point. The assembly is what people focus the most on. But when you look at the scale and economics of manufacturing in emerging markets, you simply can't avoid them and still have your products sell at reasonable prices.

If countries start creating protectionist policies to force companies to manufacture locally, then you'll just see that increased cost passed on to the consumer. But the company won't absorb those higher costs.
Because people want the dumb jobs back, the important parts like say the Face ID advanced parts don’t matter. Anyone can slap together puzzle pieces of an iPhone.
 
Getting super tired of the half truths in the world today. Yeah sure some parts are made here, but most aren't. And y'all route your income through Ireland too so why's that? You wanna claim to be all SUPER USA, then bring your income home and pay your got dang taxes. And don't ask schools to pay $300 for ipads when they can't afford heat or to feed the kids. (because there isn't enough tax money for them)

Why shouldn’t Apple charge $300 for an iPad? Maybe you should direct your anger where it belongs, the wasteful federal government that has no problem finding trillions of dollars for defense contractors but can’t find pennies for education.
 
And you could pay 2x? 3x? as much for you iPhone.

I’m sure a quick audit of your home would turn up countless Chinese made goods from clothes to shoes to kitchen appliances to electronic gadgets and tech. “I make an effort to buy American” rings hollow. Sorry. I’ll take you seriously when you stop buying Chinese made goods. Or get off your moral high house and recognize that ALL American companies who manufacture in China are just as “bad” as Apple.
I bet he drives a Made in mexico/Canada “American brand vehicle” and the type to think Toyota is still Japanese!
 
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Aren't the displays made by samsung? And the processors made by Samsung or TSMC?

Do those companies make those major components in the USA?
 
If Chinese workers are exploited, why do they line up in droves to get the jobs? Are you really willing to take their jobs away or make them move away from their families who they'll probably never see again? Just so a bunch of Americans can take their jobs and then b*tch and moan about how boring and repetitive they are, quit and new people have to be trained again. Americans who have a MILLION other kinds of jobs they could train for instead because America has a million more opportunities than a Communist country. What a ridiculous, first-world privilege thing to do.

They line up because the Chinese government has failed their people. That’s right. You won’t admit it. You’re ok with this. You’re ok with the low wages and poor conditions. Just as long as you get that shiny Apple device.

Actually, if they want to come here that’s their choice. Of course you overlooked the fact that they would be paid American wages and have American protections and benefits... but hey, that’s not good enough for you... so let’s instead hire Americans and build the products here... but wait, that’s not good enough for you either because you have such a low opinion of American workers... and ultimately you disrespect Chinese workers as well.

I’m amazed but not surprised you have such a low opinion of American workers. The USA and its taxpayers don’t exist to solve other country’s labor issues. Obviously, you feel differently about that. Check your privilege.
 
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lol @ all the comments here being left by people that don’t even read the article/source but they wanna say what they would do if they were CEO. yeah, OKAY!
 
  • Accelerometer: Bosch Sensortech. Based in Germany, with locations in the U.S., China, South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan
  • Audio chips: Cirrus Logic. Based in the U.S., with locations in the U.K., China, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, and Singapore

  • Battery: Samsung. Based in South Korea, with locations in 80 countries
  • Battery: Sunwoda Electronic. Based in China
  • Camera: Qualcomm. Based in the U.S., with locations in Australia, Brazil, China, India, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea, and more than a dozen locations through Europe and Latin America
  • Camera: Sony. Based in Japan, with locations in dozens of countries
  • Chips for 3G/4G/LTE networking: Qualcomm.
  • Compass: AKM Semiconductor. Based in Japan, with locations in the U.S., France, England, China, South Korea, and Taiwan
  • Glass screen: Corning. Based in the U.S., with locations in Australia, Belgium, Brazil, China, Denmark, France, Germany, Hong Kong, India, Israel, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, Mexico, Philippines, Poland, Russia, Singapore, South Africa, Spain, Taiwan, The Netherlands, Turkey, the U.K., and the United Arab Emirates
  • Gyroscope: STMicroelectronics. Based in Switzerland, with locations 35 countries
  • Flash memory: Toshiba. Based in Japan, with locations in over 50 countries
  • Flash memory: Samsung.
  • LCD screen: Sharp. Based in Japan, with locations in 13 countries
  • LCD screen: LG. Based in South Korea, with locations in Poland and China
  • A-series Processor: Samsung.

  • A-series Processor: TSMC. Based in Taiwan, with locations in China, Singapore, and the U.S.
  • Touch ID: TSMC
  • Touch ID: Xintec. Based in Taiwan.
  • Touchscreen controller: Broadcom. Based in the U.S., with locations in Israel, Greece, the U.K., the Netherlands, Belgium, France, India, China, Taiwan, Singapore, and South Korea
  • Wi-Fi chip: Murata. Based in the U.S., with locations in Japan, Mexico, Brazil, Canada, China, Taiwan, South Korea, Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines, India, Vietnam, The Netherlands, Spain, the U.K., Germany, Hungary, France, Italy, and Finland
 
The funniest quote of this article:

"We have always made the parts here," Cook said. "People just look at where the final product is assembled."

One would think that "making" a product includes assembling the final product. Clearly we've had the definition wrong the entire time.

Lesson learned: Tim Cook says that final product assembly is not where a product is made.

So you are one of the "where is it finally assembled, that's what counts?" guys. One would also think that there are multiple points of assembly in any complex product. So when you buy a car, do you just make a decision on it's origin by looking at where it rolls out of the plant onto a rail car, and not the dozens of countries where components and sub-assemblies are made?
 
And you could pay 2x? 3x? as much for you iPhone.

I’m sure a quick audit of your home would turn up countless Chinese made goods from clothes to shoes to kitchen appliances to electronic gadgets and tech. “I make an effort to buy American” rings hollow. Sorry. I’ll take you seriously when you stop buying Chinese made goods. Or get off your moral high house and recognize that ALL American companies who manufacture in China are just as “bad” as Apple.

If the phone cost that much more, I wouldn’t buy it. Apple would have to actually compete for my business and not rely on cheap exploited foreign labor to artificially lower the price of their products. Apple has the ability to manufacture in the States with a solid profit margin... but it’s not enough for Tim... the moral arbiter who’s ok with being on a high horse about this.

I make more of an effort than you do I’m sure.

I agree that all American companies who manufacture in China shouldn’t.

I support bringing all of that manufacturing here to the USA. That’s right. All of it. Bring the workers too if they want to come under Visas. Pay them American wages. Give them American worker protections and benefits. Have them pay US taxes.

We’re talking about Apple and I’m calling them out for virtue signaling.
 
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