Lol. Seriously true, though. People can argue what's best for the USA, but arguing against the USA will only make them stronger. It's never a winning strategy.It's why we're still the best nation on this planet, so... sorry.
Lol. Seriously true, though. People can argue what's best for the USA, but arguing against the USA will only make them stronger. It's never a winning strategy.It's why we're still the best nation on this planet, so... sorry.
Maybe you prefer to buy from companies who love to put "Made in America" on their products where the only thing actually Made in America is slapping the knobs on before it goes in the box. I prefer all the jobs created in multiple American companies across multiple states making components.
Exactly this. There's no shortage of skill to assemble iPhones here. The states are just unfriendly to those factories, as they should be. We don't need that here. I'm actually scared of how much coal and oil we're producing now. It's surely taking the focus away from higher-skilled jobs.Not to mention all of the design, engineering, programming, etc. that goes into everything Apple makes.
Focus on manufacturing is shortsighted, but that’s to be expected from a certain demographic these days. It’s the same thinking that leads to efforts to kill our solar industry (and essentially hand the technology of the future over to Germany and China) in order to save a few thousand coal jobs. It’s idiotic.
We should be focused on, and proud of, all the HOMEGROWN BRAINPOWER that gives us things like the iPhone.
All those shipping containers bringing 'stuff' from China need to go back when empty for another load of 'stuff'. Perfect for shipping those bits made in the USA to China.If parts are produced in the US, the products assembled in China, then delivered to the world, then Tim, let us talk about the carbon footprint of an iPhone.
Getting super tired of the half truths in the world today. Yeah sure some parts are made here, but most aren't. And y'all route your income through Ireland too so why's that? You wanna claim to be all SUPER USA, then bring your income home and pay your got dang taxes. And don't ask schools to pay $300 for ipads when they can't afford heat or to feed the kids. (because there isn't enough tax money for them)
A “fair” wage in China would be far less than a “fair” wage in the US. Foxconn could give everyone a 10x raise and it wouldn’t come close to what people doing the same work here would need to make ends meet, much less thrive.
How many Chinese made goods do you have in your house? We’re all complicit, every day. Yet Apple is repeatedly held to a completely different standard.
It's why we're still the best nation on this planet, so... sorry.
Sorry but I honestly don't think American culture supports workers doing meticulous, tedious, repetitive work. We have too much ADD, need for immediate gratification, plenty of work breaks, side time to comment online and tweet. Our culture is miles different than the culture in those manufacturing places (as they get more exposed to how the West lives they might become dissatisfied with their work, too, and then there better be robots to take over or we are screwed). Americans aren't interested in picking fruit, so we hire immigrants who will. Aren't interested in cleaning hotel rooms, so we hire immigrants. Cleaning up puke and urine in nursing homes, so we hire immigrants. It's time we admit what we ARE good at and do THAT. Admit we love cheap clothes, cheap furniture and cheap electronics at Walmart and let the manufacturing of those things happen where it makes sense. America (and most of Europe) is at the point in our evolution where our jobs have to change and some jobs will die off. Yes, we can still make expensive custom things in small batches for the wealthier people. Craft beer and custom furniture. But the vast majority of mass-produced goods will be made in other countries and it's not a sin to embrace that because it allows us to spend the saved money on other things, like service and entertainment industries, that HAVE to happen here because they are spontaneous.Lol. Seriously true, though. People can argue what's best for the USA, but arguing against the USA will only make them stronger. It's never a winning strategy.
What on earth does that mean in this age???It's an AMERICAN COMPANY.
For cripes sakes. SMH.
That’s not how it works. Those workers are being exploited. Only Apple’s choreographed PR campaign keeps most customers from seeing this.
I’m sure I have Chinese made goods in my house. I make an effort to buy American for everything I can. As for Apple, it should stop virtue signaling on how wonderful it is that it uses cheap foreign labor....
If those workers are so special, then Timmy should ask for them to be brought over to the USA on H1-B Visas... and pay them American wages....
Or Apple could simply hire Americans and build them here.
But that begs the question... Isn't that what an item should cost? Like the avocado debacle a few months ago; if the real price of an "All-American avocado" grown and picked by someone who makes $15.00/hr is 10 bucks, then maybe that's just what it should have been all along.
Getting super tired of the half truths in the world today. Yeah sure some parts are made here, but most aren't. And y'all route your income through Ireland too so why's that? You wanna claim to be all SUPER USA, then bring your income home and pay your got dang taxes. And don't ask schools to pay $300 for ipads when they can't afford heat or to feed the kids. (because there isn't enough tax money for them)
That’s not how it works. Those workers are being exploited. Only Apple’s choreographed PR campaign keeps most customers from seeing this.
I’m sure I have Chinese made goods in my house. I make an effort to buy American for everything I can. As for Apple, it should stop virtue signaling on how wonderful it is that it uses cheap foreign labor....
If those workers are so special, then Timmy should ask for them to be brought over to the USA on H1-B Visas... and pay them American wages....
Or Apple could simply hire Americans and build them here.
Because people want the dumb jobs back, the important parts like say the Face ID advanced parts don’t matter. Anyone can slap together puzzle pieces of an iPhone.He does have a point. The assembly is what people focus the most on. But when you look at the scale and economics of manufacturing in emerging markets, you simply can't avoid them and still have your products sell at reasonable prices.
If countries start creating protectionist policies to force companies to manufacture locally, then you'll just see that increased cost passed on to the consumer. But the company won't absorb those higher costs.
Getting super tired of the half truths in the world today. Yeah sure some parts are made here, but most aren't. And y'all route your income through Ireland too so why's that? You wanna claim to be all SUPER USA, then bring your income home and pay your got dang taxes. And don't ask schools to pay $300 for ipads when they can't afford heat or to feed the kids. (because there isn't enough tax money for them)
It’s more like some people are intolerant of success and Apple has a big green $ in its headquarters.It's more like people are intolerant of arrogance. If you're arrogant and doing the same thing as what everyone else is doing, then yeah... you got a target on your face.
I bet he drives a Made in mexico/Canada “American brand vehicle” and the type to think Toyota is still Japanese!And you could pay 2x? 3x? as much for you iPhone.
I’m sure a quick audit of your home would turn up countless Chinese made goods from clothes to shoes to kitchen appliances to electronic gadgets and tech. “I make an effort to buy American” rings hollow. Sorry. I’ll take you seriously when you stop buying Chinese made goods. Or get off your moral high house and recognize that ALL American companies who manufacture in China are just as “bad” as Apple.
Well that's less than the effective tax rate for a middle class American.
If Chinese workers are exploited, why do they line up in droves to get the jobs? Are you really willing to take their jobs away or make them move away from their families who they'll probably never see again? Just so a bunch of Americans can take their jobs and then b*tch and moan about how boring and repetitive they are, quit and new people have to be trained again. Americans who have a MILLION other kinds of jobs they could train for instead because America has a million more opportunities than a Communist country. What a ridiculous, first-world privilege thing to do.
The funniest quote of this article:
"We have always made the parts here," Cook said. "People just look at where the final product is assembled."
One would think that "making" a product includes assembling the final product. Clearly we've had the definition wrong the entire time.
Lesson learned: Tim Cook says that final product assembly is not where a product is made.
And you could pay 2x? 3x? as much for you iPhone.
I’m sure a quick audit of your home would turn up countless Chinese made goods from clothes to shoes to kitchen appliances to electronic gadgets and tech. “I make an effort to buy American” rings hollow. Sorry. I’ll take you seriously when you stop buying Chinese made goods. Or get off your moral high house and recognize that ALL American companies who manufacture in China are just as “bad” as Apple.