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Hello Karl, it’s so nice of you to call. Would you like something, a nice cup of steam or a plate of mashed yeast mmm?
Hell no Timmy I only eat raw whale. Yee Harrrr !!
Oh my..
Say Timmy what’s up with this office, there ain’t no corners?
Oh we can’t have corners dear, people can hide you know. I have to watch them in case they quit. Never mind I’ll have one reimagined for you next time.
 
Hmm are we all REALLY sure Steve picked him or the board? Saying one thing doesn’t always mean that’s how it a go!


Jobs recommend him and the board approved. Jobs picked him to be in charge twice when he was on medical leave and named him COO. It's pretty clear whose opinion was behind that decision. Besides, the Apple board is notoriously deferential to the CEO.
 
Working in management does not define a company’s success. Last I checked, it’s hiring smart people. Companies like Microsoft, IBM, Apple, Facebook have management, but we have seen how it doesn’t necessarily mean success. Facebook certainly has not benefited from management considering how many have left over its privacy issues. Even the stock market realized this, when Jony Ive left, the company lost 9 billion dollars in value because of 1 person. Could management turn that around?

Because they know at the end of the if you don’t have a single person to say yes, all management does is keep seats warm. Steve Jobs himself said this, at the end of the day, the final decision falls at his feet good or bad.

This is why the rumors of Apple now becoming a operations company is such a concern. But, I noticed post Air Pod users like you have become more bandwagonist to the company because of its trendy logo rather that looking at what made this company successful in the first place. Steve always said - they operate like a startup and built products they loved. Like Management filled with a bunch of MBA’s is gonna have a clue about design and user experience.

Effective management means effective leadership. And it needs to be implemented with the right people, a properly functioning hierarchy or model, and clearly defined responsibilities and objectives.

Of course management does not guarantee success. However, you seems to be stating that the absence of management is the right path. That’s not correct.

Who sets the objectives, hires the right people to fulfill them, manages finances, creates process, provides resources, and more? Leaders.

You’re further contradicting yourself by referencing Steve. He was in upper management. He didn’t act like a traditional manager and, ironically, you seem to be discounting his role as such. He was a leader. Who hired Jony? Steve. A manager and leader.

You’re also defining a leader as someone with an MBA? Why?

Again, I don’t think you’ve worked a day as an effective leader. You don’t know what the role means.
 
Effective management means effective leadership. And it needs to be implemented with the right people, a properly functioning hierarchy or model, and clearly defined responsibilities and objectives.

Of course management does not guarantee success. However, you seems to be stating that the absence of management is the right path. That’s not correct.

Who sets the objectives, hires the right people to fulfill them, manages finances, creates process, provides resources, and more? Leaders.

You’re further contradicting yourself by referencing Steve. He was in upper management. He didn’t act like a traditional manager and, ironically, you seem to be discounting his role as such. He was a leader. Who hired Jony? Steve. A manager and leader.

You’re also defining a leader as someone with an MBA? Why?

Again, I don’t think you’ve worked a day as an effective leader. You don’t know what the role means.

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Coast guard? So Tim wants to get Apple stuff on boats now.?

iPads are pretty popular in controlling/integrating marine electronics like chart plotters, radar, etc.

As I mentioned earlier I suspect this has to do with apple watches and marine safety. Perhaps iPhone/iPads as well. If an Apple Watch could detect you’ve fallen overboard (sensing water and swimming perhaps) it could presumably send a distress call and transmit your GPS location to the USCG and potentially nearby ships.

The only problem is cell phone signals only work so far over water- maybe 20-30 miles under ideal conditions. If you’re in the water during a storm with high seas, I imagine the range is far less. This wouldn’t be very practical for people going off shore.
 
I can’t imagine what they share or have in common.

Me either but then probably that's because we're us and they are an Apple CEO and a Coast Guard Admiral. They likely can't imagine precisely what any of us out here may have in common either... even if they're very interested in finding out -- so that the entities they respectively head up can continue to be useful to us. After all, big organizations don't really like surprises. And the people running them don't get paid to be surprised by "what's next"...

Maybe Apple's working on a crystal ball. :D

Heh, maybe they're just talking about what it's like to run large organizations variously accountable to the public, in an era where the USA's head of state can and does willfully tilt both financial markets and foreign relations from a Twitter account whenever it suits his personal outlook to do so. I can't even imagine what that's like; it's bad enough reading Trump's remarks as a private citizen.
 
Because a few people get pissed whenever the USA is mentioned on this forum about a USA-based corporation.
Seems like it was probably more about various people somehow jumping to some type of political things related to Tim Cook, as some seem to do anytime there's an article that mentions him pretty much in any capacity.
 
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