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New remote
Updated CPU/GPU for better gaming (to go along with hopefully more advanced Arcade games)
Wi-Fi 6
HDMI 2.1

I want to add:

* 120-240Hz 1080p support; 120Hz 4K support on “full” AppleTV
* Introduction of an AppleTV “mini” that is more “stick” sized or “puck” sized — Roku/Firestick Rival, etc
* Better support for console-quality games. Allowing Fortnite on AppleTV App Store so long as they follow rules, Overwatch, Rust, etc for ATV
 
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Get a new one then, 10 core processors and 8Tb SSDs rock :cool:
I have an unscientific hunch that the Apple Silicon ones are going to be amazing and worth waiting for. The iPhone 12 Pro processor already beats the top of the line iMac's i9 CPU in single-core performance. Multi-core is worse but not a whole lot worse, and it's a mobile phone. Take that chip and scale it to fit a desktop PC, and it's going to be a lot faster the i9.

Also, Apple Silicon is expected to be more energy-efficient and thus produce less heat, so even the benchmark gains will be understated because they're all in shorter bursts where thermal throttling doesn't happen. Like, some high-end MBP models have been slower than the mid-range ones under sustained load in a 75˚F room.

Keep in mind when comparing that the iPhone has 6 cores, but 3 (edit: actually 4) are low-performance ones. iMac has 10 equal cores.
 
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I know I want a faster processor and at least double the storage offerings. That rumored Apple branded controller would also be nice. Or maybe even a HomePod sound bar with Apple TV built in. Lots of directions to explore with Apple TV.
Very interesting. Someone else said they would like the opposite of this, with Apple offering a basic, more affordable version of what we have currently. But I have to say that a HomePod sound bar with integrated ATV would be a very cool thing.
 
Where do people get these BS theories, that a mobile phone CPU can beat an Multi-core, Multi-threaded CPU for a desktop.

People on here are a joke, when stupid meaningless bench marks show people want they want it means everything and must be true. Yet when they don't show a certain narrative, bench marks are suddenly pointless and worthless.
 
Where do people get these BS theories, that a mobile phone CPU can beat an Multi-core, Multi-threaded CPU for a desktop.

People on here are a joke, when stupid meaningless bench marks show people want they want it means everything and must be true. Yet when they don't show a certain narrative, bench marks are suddenly pointless and worthless.
You forget one thing, these mobile phone CPUs are very tiny and build on 5nm production node (significantly more advanced) and are heavily capped in terms of power consumption in order to preserve battery. If you eliminate the battery constraints and you juice this CPU up to is full potential, the results could be great. And if you also adapt the ARM chip architecture to desktop enviernment/needs by increasing the chip size (cores number), in theory, we could have a winner. There are no advanced ARM desktop processors (for now) but by just by considering the power per watt performance we see in A14, it would not be a suprise that a desktop equivalent could outperform the latest i9.

For Apple to switch to ARM on its Macs, it is a big deal. They must have a SoC in their labs that is a beast in order to justify dropping Intel entierly. Apple is not switching from Intel just because they came up with a CPU that outperforms i3 by a small margin. Thats the reason for the hype. Something big must be comming. We will see...
 
New remote
Updated CPU/GPU for better gaming (to go along with hopefully more advanced Arcade games)
Wi-Fi 6
HDMI 2.1
I think there were some hints of it going at least iPad Pro levels of A-chips? Or was it me wishfully thinking, because that would be plenty of power.
At least the A14 from the latest iPad Air is a big boost, about 2 or 3 times the power of the Nintendo Switch... plenty for high quality Arcade games
 
Where do people get these BS theories, that a mobile phone CPU can beat an Multi-core, Multi-threaded CPU for a desktop.

People on here are a joke, when stupid meaningless bench marks show people want they want it means everything and must be true. Yet when they don't show a certain narrative, bench marks are suddenly pointless and worthless.
True that.
I saw a benchmark of an 11th gen latest Dell laptop and it beats the 10th gen lesser-clocked/less-everything MacBook pro 13” on almost all benchmark scores by a lot... yet at the cinebench score, a real life use case one, the older crappier MacBook Pro would either hold close or beat them. Even better, unplugging the MB from the power makes the it a tad bit faster, something that most laptops can’t with their slapped inside power-hog-monsters of everything.

However, try to find the iPad Pro benchmarks where they edit 4K+ video real-time that even a Windows desktops or a Mac Pro with their Xeons chug badly... some new Canon 6k and 8k formats I think it was. In that case not only a 2+ years old fanless, massively thermals constrained A12X chip beats some synthetic benchmarks... it wipes the floor with a real use case.
 
I want to add:

* 120-240Hz 1080p support; 120Hz 4K support on “full” AppleTV
* Introduction of an AppleTV “mini” that is more “stick” sized or “puck” sized — Roku/Firestick Rival, etc
* Better support for console-quality games. Allowing Fortnite on AppleTV App Store so long as they follow rules, Overwatch, Rust, etc for ATV
How about just fix the bugs of the current?

HLG support
Real 24fps support
A remote that doesn't polarize (not a bug strictly)

The gaming stuff is fluff, until there is a killer title that the tvOS experience enhances.
 
I know I want a faster processor and at least double the storage offerings. That rumored Apple branded controller would also be nice. Or maybe even a HomePod sound bar with Apple TV built in. Lots of directions to explore with Apple TV.
HomePod soundbar, built-in Apple TV? Now that’s an interesting concept...
 
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While everyone else is suffering a meltdown in the midst of a global pandemic, Apple is hitting out of the park. Home run after home run after home run. And they are still only just getting started.

Competition? There is none anymore for Apple. Not serious competition, anyway.
But that is not a good thing.......Lack of competition breeds complacency!
 
Why? I’m always for updates but I’ve never felt it was lacking
There are plenty of reasons that have already been enumerated in this thread, but my own is that the Apple TV desperately needs a more powerful CPU. I stream 4K Dolby Vision content often, and the most-recent-gen 4K Apple TV that I have can’t keep up. It routinely ‘drops’ audio as it falls behind, then after a second of silence the ‘Dolby Vision’ logo appears again.

Also, I just got another 75” LG OLED, and I’m not about to drop $200 on a device that’s already outdated (connection-wise), that hasn’t seen an update in over three years!
 
That has been surprising! Also the spread of HomeKit and AirPlay 2. So yes, in the long run, I agree that all the core Apple TV competencies seem that they'll be subsumed by smart TVs. Privacy remains a concern for me, as are things like ads on the home screens of streamers and smart TVs, as well as more general UI considerations, but I don't think there's a significant enough market there.

People don't replace their TVs all that frequently though, so as older models' "smart" capabilities are left to progress, there will be a market to upgrade the smarts. For example, my 2016 LG 4K hasn't received apps for HBO Max, CBS, Apple TV+, Peacock, etc. I'm not going to replace it until it breaks, but I think that, like smart TVs, Apple may be pivoting to address integrations with its platforms that don't require the purchase of an Apple-branded streamer.
If you care about privacy or Information Security at all, you won’t use the ‘smart’ features on your TV. InfoSec professional here, and those devices are a nightmare.

I purchased a $3k+ Samsung TV, and while the display was great, the OS was terrifying. Home-brewed Android spinner-off (read: no updates), and when I checked my (overkill) home network setup, I found that the TV had *uploaded* 2GB of data in just 2 weeks! On top of that, on a $3k TV, Samsung was serving ads on the homescreen. Unreal.

A coworker got a cheap Chinese TV on Black Friday, and just for fun connected it to the internet. He was able to install malware on his own TV in less than an hour!

So if you care about security and/or privacy: never let your TV connect to the internet, except maybe to get firmware updates. I access all media/streaming services via my Apple TV, or my in-home Plex server... I hope Apple’s hardware is around for years to come!
 
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Where do people get these BS theories, that a mobile phone CPU can beat an Multi-core, Multi-threaded CPU for a desktop.

People on here are a joke, when stupid meaningless bench marks show people want they want it means everything and must be true. Yet when they don't show a certain narrative, bench marks are suddenly pointless and worthless.
Care to @ me directly? I don't know what more to tell you other than wait for the chip to be released and see for yourself.
 
You forget one thing, these mobile phone CPUs are very tiny and build on 5nm production node (significantly more advanced) and are heavily capped in terms of power consumption in order to preserve battery. If you eliminate the battery constraints and you juice this CPU up to is full potential, the results could be great. And if you also adapt the ARM chip architecture to desktop enviernment/needs by increasing the chip size (cores number), in theory, we could have a winner. There are no advanced ARM desktop processors (for now) but by just by considering the power per watt performance we see in A14, it would not be a suprise that a desktop equivalent could outperform the latest i9.

For Apple to switch to ARM on its Macs, it is a big deal. They must have a SoC in their labs that is a beast in order to justify dropping Intel entierly. Apple is not switching from Intel just because they came up with a CPU that outperforms i3 by a small margin. Thats the reason for the hype. Something big must be comming. We will see...
And even if you do none of that, the iPhone 12 Pro as it stands will do a single-threaded CPU-heavy task, many examples of which exist in the real world, faster than a top of the line iMac will.
 
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Ok. I don’t have that problem apparently. The only thing that ever might give me a hiccup is using popcorntime.

There are plenty of reasons that have already been enumerated in this thread, but my own is that the Apple TV desperately needs a more powerful CPU. I stream 4K Dolby Vision content often, and the most-recent-gen 4K Apple TV that I have can’t keep up. It routinely ‘drops’ audio as it falls behind, then after a second of silence the ‘Dolby Vision’ logo appears again.

Also, I just got another 75” LG OLED, and I’m not about to drop $200 on a device that’s already outdated (connection-wise), that hasn’t seen an update in over three years!
 
You forget one thing, these mobile phone CPUs are very tiny and build on 5nm production node (significantly more advanced) and are heavily capped in terms of power consumption in order to preserve battery. If you eliminate the battery constraints and you juice this CPU up to is full potential, the results could be great. And if you also adapt the ARM chip architecture to desktop enviernment/needs by increasing the chip size (cores number), in theory, we could have a winner. There are no advanced ARM desktop processors (for now) but by just by considering the power per watt performance we see in A14, it would not be a suprise that a desktop equivalent could outperform the latest i9.

For Apple to switch to ARM on its Macs, it is a big deal. They must have a SoC in their labs that is a beast in order to justify dropping Intel entierly. Apple is not switching from Intel just because they came up with a CPU that outperforms i3 by a small margin. Thats the reason for the hype. Something big must be comming. We will see...
Yeah yeah yeah, but if you juice it up, you come up against heat constraints. And thus why CPU clock speeds stopped increasing many years ago. It ain't so simple as merely "increase the chip size". You forget that there are already ARM processors (non-Apple) running in super computers, and their performance hasn't knocked the other players out of the market.
 
Yeah yeah yeah, but if you juice it up, you come up against heat constraints. And thus why CPU clock speeds stopped increasing many years ago. It ain't so simple as merely "increase the chip size". You forget that there are already ARM processors (non-Apple) running in super computers, and their performance hasn't knocked the other players out of the market.
Apple is only using ARM's instruction set, and the rest is their own. Moore's Law is dead, but there are still gains to be made.

Aside, the fastest supercomputer does use ARM CPUs, but supercomputers have very different requirements than PCs, and there's more to the market than price/performance/heat. For one, lots of people just want x86. Heck, lots of people just want Intel and not AMD even though they're competitive and use similar instruction sets.
 
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We need new iMacs, and not just the smaller one either!! My 27" one is dying!
AS is the one you want I guess?
The most recent ones are just from August and can’t really go wrong with the top tier one with the 5700XT 16GB GPU.
 
Keep in mind when comparing that the iPhone has 6 cores, but 3 are low-performance ones. iMac has 10 equal cores.
The A14 in the iPhone 12 has 2 high-performance cores and 4 high-efficiency (low-performance) cores. I'm hoping for more than 4/4 (high/low cores) in the first batch of ASi Macs (which would be in keeping with the configuration of the A12X in the iPad Pro), but I'm trying to calibrate my expectations.
 
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The A14 in the iPhone 12 has 2 high-performance cores and 4 high-efficiency (low-performance) cores. I'm hoping for more than 4/4 (high/low cores) in the first batch of ASi Macs (which would be in keeping with the configuration of the A12X in the iPad Pro), but I'm trying to calibrate my expectations.
Ah, 2 and 4 makes more sense given the scores. I'm editing my post, thanks.
 
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Where do people get these BS theories, that a mobile phone CPU can beat an Multi-core, Multi-threaded CPU for a desktop.

People on here are a joke, when stupid meaningless bench marks show people want they want it means everything and must be true. Yet when they don't show a certain narrative, bench marks are suddenly pointless and worthless.
 
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