Apple CEO Tim Cook on Apple Music: 'We Worry About the Humanity Being Drained Out of Music'

[Gameboy70]

Measuring "affinities across listeners" is no different than Facebook's terrible approach. Advertisers love the data but only because it's more data that allows access to more targets. Users themselves receive no benefit from such data until satisfaction or dissatisfaction with content can also be measured.

As a subscriber of Spotify and AM who's not on Facebook, I must be missing the resemblance. All I can tell you is that Spotify's recommendations are so uncannily relevant, it does feel as though Spotify is reading my mind. Many times I've thought, "How did they know I'd like this?" I've never had that happen on Apple Music until I started using SongShift to import my Spotify Discover Weekly playlists, which seems to have seeded AM with a more nuanced understanding of my tastes and preferences.
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This is much better and is from Roon which is THE music player for music lovers. Makes all other seem stupid.

Too bad AM and Spotify haven't provided them APIs for integration. I've been willing to pay a premium for Roon, but not willing to subscribe to Tidal or be limited to the iTunes library I haven't added to in years. No fault of Roon's, of course.

 

[Starship67]

First step to restoring humanity to music is expelling all rap music and it’s creation.

 

[kazmac]

At least there’s something showing on that screen to confuse you.

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That made me laugh.

Thank you.

 

[Bacillus]

The talking Cook has started to resemble his memoji character more than himself

 

[KidAKidB]

So sick of this argument.

Because Spotify is not pre installed on gazillions of Android devices.

Because Spotify doesn't work on Alexa, Google Home and PlayStation (Xbox?)

Because Spotify didn't start to go after the carriers and made them pre install Spotify and zero rate their traffic.

Because Spotify isn't owned by the big boys in music (Warner, EMI and Universal).

Spotify isn't pre-installed on gazillions of Android devices.
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Which dismal recommendations?

I've tried Spotify for months and it kept recommending crap EDM.

No thank you. Discovered much better music through Apple Music and it's rádios are much better.

If you were getting crappy EDM recommended to you that's only because you must have listened to something similar to begin with. Spotify's recommendations are pretty much perfect. That being said, I left Spotify for Apple Music last year and haven't looked back. Apple Music is pretty amazing for everything else.
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It is funny nobody of you in this thread mentioned Sirius XM.

I have SiriusXM in the car because I don't like to think about what I want to listen to when I'm driving. I love Sirius XM in that situation, but when I'm not driving I get extremely picky about what I want to listen to.

 

[TimmeyCook]

Spotify isn't pre-installed on gazillions of Android devices.

Okay millions of phones, like Samsung.

 

[Naimfan]

I personally never even use Apple Music's discover feature. I know the music I like and don't need Apple helping me find more.

Exactly.

I don't use Apple Music except to carry music on my phone.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Okay millions of phones, like Samsung.

Not true.

 

[Peperino]

Prove that you DID. Then we'll talk.

I do not have to prove anything to you, to show Apple's disgusting child labor rates about streaming music.

That is a FACT.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

I do not have to prove anything to you, to show Apple's disgusting child labor rates about streaming music.

That is a FACT.

Those "disgusting child labor rates" (like ALL music royalties) aren't set by Apple, but by Congress. Which you admit you knew by your original Post.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/streaming-music-royalties-rise-for-songwriters-publishers/

 

[amegicfox]

there are currently millions of people starving around the world and many more millions trapped in horrifying conflicts and he all this tool worries about is "humanity being drained out of music" ?

every time he opens his mouth all we hear is utopian non-sense

he never had a brain, please Apple board replace yourself and fire this idiot asap

 

[Abazigal]

there are currently millions of people starving around the world and many more millions trapped in horrifying conflicts and he all this tool worries about is "humanity being drained out of music" ?

every time he opens his mouth all we hear is utopian non-sense

he never had a brain, please Apple board replace yourself and fire this idiot asap

So what have you done to make the world a better place lately?

 

[Peperino]

Those "disgusting child labor rates" (like ALL music royalties) aren't set by Apple, but by Congress. Which you admit you knew by your original Post.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/streaming-music-royalties-rise-for-songwriters-publishers/

Apple takes 33% of itunes and Appstore. Spotify does not.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

Apple takes 33% of itunes and Appstore. Spotify does not.

They don't take 33% (and it's 30% BTW) of ROYALTIES; they take 30% of the GROSS SALES to the PUBLISHER (generally, the record-label). Music "Mechanical Royalties" are set in the U.S. by CONGRESS, not by Apple, not by Spotify, and not by the Record Labels.

Indie artists are the exception to the rule: Buy directly from the artist's website whenever possible!

You need to learn how the music BUSINESS works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royalty_payment#Mechanical_royalties

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royalty_payment#In_digital_distribution

https://lifehacker.com/5957605/does-it-matter-where-i-buy-my-music

https://www.innovationfiles.org/promoting-innovation-and-competition-in-music-licensing/

https://itif.org/publications/2018/05/16/congress-hits-right-note-music-modernization-act

 

[Peperino]

They don't take 33% (and it's 30% BTW) of ROYALTIES; they take 30% of the GROSS SALES to the PUBLISHER (generally, the record-label). Music "Mechanical Royalties" are set in the U.S. by CONGRESS, not by Apple, not by Spotify, and not by the Record Labels.

Indie artists are the exception to the rule: Buy directly from the artist's website whenever possible!

You need to learn how the music BUSINESS works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royalty_payment#Mechanical_royalties

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royalty_payment#In_digital_distribution

https://lifehacker.com/5957605/does-it-matter-where-i-buy-my-music

https://www.innovationfiles.org/promoting-innovation-and-competition-in-music-licensing/

https://itif.org/publications/2018/05/16/congress-hits-right-note-music-modernization-act

In music you might be right but The Appstore is NOT regulated by Congress. Though Apple still takes a 30%.
THat is why Netflix is actually changing his app so in order to sign up they do not need to give Apple a 30%.
But that is Netflix. Imagine all the poor small developers that has no other option...
They still need to pay Apple 30%.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

In music you might be right but The Appstore is NOT regulated by Congress. Though Apple still takes a 30%.
THat is why Netflix is actually changing his app so in order to sign up they do not need to give Apple a 30%.
But that is Netflix. Imagine all the poor small developers that has no other option...
They still need to pay Apple 30%.

You DO realize what they get for that, right?

1. One-stop-shop that pretty-much "Corrals" potential customers into being exposed to your App. (Without that ONE thing, there WOULD NOT have been ANY significant "App" phenomenon!). Users are also more likely to take a chance on your App, because they consider it "Safe" (not spyware/malware).

2. Hosting and automatic Distribution for your App. Apple pays for the Data warehousing, bandwidth, electricity (NOT a trivial expense in Datacenters!), IT personnel, hardware techs, etc, etc etc.

3. A nice, fill-in-the-blank "Product Page" for both desktop and mobile users, with even an integrated "Rating and Comment" system. You don't have to put together some amatuerish website, or use an overly-elaborate WordPress template, etc. All done.

4. Payment Processing, including Credit Card verification and billing, Dispute-Resolution, etc. without you having to figure that all out, etc.

5. And recently, an Built-In "Trialing" system for ALL Apps. Making it even MORE likely that someone will "take a chance" on your App.

And besides, Freeware Devs. publishing in the App Store get all those same benefits. For $99/year (the cost of an Apple Developer license (only needed if you are actually Publishing to the App Store)). So, the "Paid" Devs. have to provide a little "pool" support to the Freeware guys.

Sorry. The Apple App Store(s) are giving a fair deal to the Devs. Period. The proof is that both Google and MS charged the SAME percentage "commission" as Apple (I think MS took their cut down a whole 5% (LOL!) to 25% when they got really desperate!).