How is that even remotely applicable to me as someone who is deeply entrenched in the Apple ecosystem?
You're not entrenched. You just choose to not explore other avenues which is perfectly fine.
How is that even remotely applicable to me as someone who is deeply entrenched in the Apple ecosystem?
Measuring "affinities across listeners" is no different than Facebook's terrible approach. Advertisers love the data but only because it's more data that allows access to more targets. Users themselves receive no benefit from such data until satisfaction or dissatisfaction with content can also be measured.It's not about "measuring" experience or enjoyment, it's about finding affinities across listeners. Spotify looks at your play history and builds your personalized Discover Weekly playlists using tracks from other listeners' histories that overlap your own. If I listened to songs A, G M, P, and X, and another listener had G, L, M, Q, X, and Z in their history, Spotify assumes that there's enough alignment between our track histories to drop L and Q in my Discover Weekly. No DJ can do that. They can be superior dance floor conductors, but that doesn't have much to do with music listening.
It's counterintuitive that an algorithm can curate better than a DJ, but that's been my experience. For decades, many investors assumed that index funds were no match for the street smarts of an actively managed fund, but the results of rule-based investing speak for themselves.
I'll stick with Spotify. Apple has enough money.
Apple is part of the problem of "dehumanizing" music with the advent of digital music. I love the convenience of being able to pick-and-choose select songs from an artist or getting an out-of-print album, but there is certainly something loss by the lack of a physical product. iTunes LP was an interesting attempt to add a little extra to the album-buying experience, but it never seemed to gain much traction, sadly, and now Apple is retiring that.
Someone should explain this Dilbert that Spotify actually has human curationI like most of Apple Music. But a hundred superior features mean nothing if it doesn't help me discover new music. Spotify's Discover Weekly and Discover tab totally destroy Apple Music. I find new great stuff in a day with Spotify than a month with Apple Music.
Someone should explain this Dilbert that Spotify actually has human curators
...and have YOU contacted your Congresscritter to ask for the same?
Until you have, then you can't complain about someone else's (lack of) participation in Government.
Bullhonkey.
When a computer notices that I enjoy one type of music, and infers from the behavior of other users that I will like another type of music, that isn't a loss of humanity. That's humanity enhanced. It's music democratized.
Contrast that with a D.J., interested in playing the sort of music they enjoy. Or are paid to play. Or think they should play, based on what is fashionable e.g. for sale. Far from being humane, this is the corporatization of music. It does not respect me or my tastes, but expects me to listen to what a handful of tastemakers think is interesting.
I have never liked a record because of the way the artist posts on Instagram. Spotify knows this. Apple Music doesn't.
Well nuts to that. Thank heavens for Spotify Weekly and its accurate model of my odd tastes, connecting me with surprising new music every week because of other peoples' odd tastes. This is just one of the reasons Spotify is a vastly superior product to Apple Music; others include the fact that it is much faster, the interface is much better, the sharing tools work with Android, the free tier means even my beat-ass friends can enjoy it and the family plan is quite fairly priced. It also doesn't try to advertise itself to me EVERY TIME I OPEN THE MUSIC APP TO LISTEN TO THE MUSIC THAT I PAID FOR.
The thing that's so ironic is that Apple is all in on the whole subscription thing, but it was Steve Jobs who famously said that people don't want to rent music. I thought he was supposed to be some kind of tech god who was right about everything...
Prove that you DID. Then we'll talk.Why you are assuming that I did not? I did, and you are shifting the focus from the discussion and you are just trying to excuse Apple and Crook lame behavior towards streaming music. Instead of asking me what I did, you should question Crook lame policies towards starving artists.
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In an extensive profile of Spotify founder and CEO Daniel Ek, Fast Company's Robert Safian recently sat down to speak for a few minutes with Apple CEO Tim Cook at Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, California.
The topic was, of course, Spotify and Apple Music, two of the major players in the streaming music market and fierce competitors. Cook said that he looks to music as inspiration and motivation, a philosophy that's shared at Apple and has guided its focus on human-based music curation.
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"Music inspires, it motivates. It's also the thing at night that helps quiet me. I think it's better than any medicine," Cook said.
While he declined to mention Spotify by name, Cook told Fast Company that Apple worries about streaming music losing the human touch, alluding to Spotify's more algorithmic approach to highlighting content.Despite launching just three years ago, Apple Music has 50 million paid subscribers and free trial members, with the company slowly catching up to Spotify. At last count, Spotify said that it had 83 million paid subscribers around the world.
Apple has always had an edge over Spotify due to its massive 1.3 billion active installed base, and the fact that it's never needed to worry about profitability like Spotify has. "We're not in it for the money," Cook told Fast Company.
Ek, too, didn't mention Apple Music by name, but he said he believes Spotify has something going for it that other companies don't: a singular focus. "Music is everything we do all day, all night, and that clarity is the difference between the average and the really, really good," he said.
Spotify's dedication to music and music alone is what Ek believes will ultimately help the company beat Apple and expand the Spotify service in the future.
Competing with Apple was always Spotify's plan, says Ek, even before Apple Music. Apple dominated digital music downloads via iTunes in 2008 when Spotify launched, with Ek aiming to replace the iPod with on-demand music.
Competition with Apple and working within tight margins, Ek says, has driven Spotify to be more disciplined.
Despite industry complaints and criticism from Apple, Spotify has continued to focus on free music, which is how Spotify draws in new paying subscribers. After going public earlier this year, Spotify overhauled its free listening tier, offering new features that include on-demand playlists and a data saving mode, which were previously limited to paying subscribers.
Ek believes that there's money to be made with Spotify's free tier, with radiolike advertising options. "Billions of people listen to radio, and most of that today isn't monetized very efficiently," Ek said.
Going forward, in addition to working to expand revenue via its free tier, Spotify plans to focus on artists. Ek eventually wants to get 1 million artists to make a living off of Spotify, ultimately imagining something akin to YouTube where artists and listeners can interact.
For anyone interested in the inner workings of Spotify or how Ek operates, Fast Company's full profile of the founder is well worth checking out.
Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook on Apple Music: 'We Worry About the Humanity Being Drained Out of Music'
I wasn’t referring to you but to Mr. CookI never claimed otherwise. I'm saying discovery on Spotify is vastly superior to Apple Music.
Leave that to Mr. Cue...I gotta say this is powerful! Three months of Apple Music hasn’t impressed me or provided more or newer music related to my eclectic tastes (Jazz, Afro House, lyrically powerful Hip-Hop, R&B, Motown, Rock, etc)! They menu is horrible!!
Someone at Apple needs a drop kick, and Apple needs to better highlight and show how to use it to our advantage. Most importantly STOP screwing with the music we already have in our libraries!!
It is funny nobody of you in this thread mentioned Sirius XM.
Question – which playlist is playing in this screenshot? (Apple, get a human to fix your horrible UI)
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At least there’s something showing on that screen to confuse you.Question – which playlist is playing in this screenshot? (Apple, get a human to fix your horrible UI)
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