Apple CEO Tim Cook Publicly Comes Out as Gay in Letter Declaring Support for Equality

[Macboy Pro]

Affording the same rights to ALL Americans is required for equity. Allowing gay people to get married doesn't redefine marriage. It makes society equal for everyone.

AGAIN, marriage by definition is NOT two men or two women, or two women and one man, or two men and one woman. Marriage by definition is ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN. So you have to redefine it. I could not care less who spends their life with each other and what they do in private. I believe we have the freedom in this country and given by God to do with out lives as we want.

The gay movement is completely wrong by thinking they have to be called "Married" Why is that word so important. Think about it. There is an agenda for sure.

mar·riage
ˈmerij/
noun
1.
the legally or formally recognized union of a man and a woman

 

[verpeiler]

See my signature.. nothing more to say.

Oh, one thing. I hope in some years this kind of news is nothing special anymore...

 

[CPx]

I really couldn't give a damn about what people do in their private lives, but it's sad that Apple is now being used to push and promote a gay agenda. Cook should have just shut the hell up and leave his bedroom preferences out of discussion.
How about we discuss technology ? Stick to the point.

"Gay agenda"? People still use that outdated rhetoric? Welcome back to the 90s, folks! I guess there are still dinosaurs that roam among us.

 

[pivo6]

AGAIN, marriage by definition is NOT two men or two women, or two women and one man, or two men and one woman. Marriage by definition is ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN. So you have to redefine it. I could not care less who spends their life with each other and what they do in private. I believe we have the freedom in this country and given by God to do with out lives as we want.

The gay movement is completely wrong by thinking they have to be called "Married" Why is that word so important. Think about it. There is an agenda for sure.

Why do you get to define marriage. Who says it's between a man and a women? If you mentioned it earlier in this thread then I apologize because I'm not reading through 56 pages of ********.

 

[bandrews]

Why is he? It's his choice that he doesn't support homosexuality just as being gay is Tim cooks choice.

Doesn't mean he is a horrible person.

Why is it that the only people who think being gay is a choice the people who are straight? I have honestly never met a gay person who said "You know something? I woke up yesterday morning and decided, yup, heterosexuality is getting boring, I might try being gay."

However I know plenty of gay people who spent many years trying their damned hardest to be straight (having girlfriends and making excuses that they couldn't sleep together because they were saving themselves) because people had told them they'd probably get AIDS and live a short and lonely life.

I'm one of them. Turns out it was all nonsense and aged 18, after sleepless nights of thinking about killing myself I decided to learn to accept who I really was. Turns out all my straight buddies were grown up enough to accept it too. I even managed to captain my university rowing team with complete respect from the rest of the crew. I'm now, at the ripe age of 32, 8 years into a monogamous relationship, living in a tiny village in the middle of England. I'm one of the biggest farmers in the area an my other half is a partner in a GP practice. It is not seedy, sordid or promiscuous. In fact it could be considered a little dull. But I wouldn't change it for the world.

There are uncountable decisions that I have made in life. Being gay was not one of them.

 

[bsolar]

We don't get to decide what happens to someone soul. We don't get to judge whether they go to heaven or hell or what the cost of their sins will be.

We can point out someones sins. That is not judging, that is observation.

People are always trying to say don't judge to escape hearing about what they are doing.

That's not judging only if you conveniently redefine what people mean with the term "judging". You are pointing out what you perceive to be a fault in someone else: that's judging for you.

I suggest all Christians to follow the wise advice of the current Pope:

Those who judge others are wrong to do so. Eventually, God will judge them in the same way. Only God is our "sole judge;" and those who find themselves judged by others can always rely on a defender in Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

[...]

If we want to follow the way of Jesus more than accusers, we have to be defenders of others before the Father. I see a bad thing in someone – do I go defend him? No! But keep quiet! Go pray and defend him before the Father as Jesus does. Pray for him, but do not judge! Because if you do, when you do something bad, you will be judged. Let us remember this well; it will do us good in everyday life when we get the urge to judge others, to speak ill of others, which is a form of judging.

 

[mattster16]

AGAIN, marriage by definition is NOT two men or two women, or two women and one man, or two men and one woman. Marriage by definition is ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN. So you have to redefine it. I could not care less who spends their life with each other and what they do in private. I believe we have the freedom in this country and given by God to do with out lives as we want.

The gay movement is completely wrong by thinking they have to be called "Married" Why is that word so important. Think about it. There is an agenda for sure.

mar·riage
ˈmerij/
noun
1.
the legally or formally recognized union of a man and a woman

Lexicon is fluid and has changed throughout history. Please recognize this or you will be left behind....

 

[Avatar74]

AGAIN, marriage by definition is NOT two men or two women, or two women and one man, or two men and one woman. Marriage by definition is ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN. So you have to redefine it. I could not care less who spends their life with each other and what they do in private. I believe we have the freedom in this country and given by God to do with out lives as we want.

The gay movement is completely wrong by thinking they have to be called "Married" Why is that word so important. Think about it. There is an agenda for sure.

For most of Christianity's history, marriage was in fact polygamous.... so, no, the definition of marriage is not and has not been consistent.

But even if it were, that's only a religious definition of it... entire religions have been invented so that kings could be divorced (and behead their former property). So, "sanctity of marriage" is a rather hilarious concept, theologically speaking.

 

[Macboy Pro]

Why do you get to define marriage. Who says it's between a man and a women? If you mentioned it earlier in this thread then I apologize because I'm not reading through 56 pages of ********.

Straight from the dictionary and 1000's of years of history:

mar·riage
ˈmerij/
noun
1.
the legally or formally recognized union of a man and a woman

 

[yg17]

AGAIN, marriage by definition is NOT two men or two women, or two women and one man, or two men and one woman. Marriage by definition is ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN. So you have to redefine it. I could not care less who spends their life with each other and what they do in private. I believe we have the freedom in this country and given by God to do with out lives as we want.

The gay movement is completely wrong by thinking they have to be called "Married" Why is that word so important. Think about it. There is an agenda for sure.

Because separate but not equal is not equal. I thought we settled that in the 1960s.

"The blacks have their own drinking fountain. Why should we redefine the white drinking fountain to allow them to use it?"

That's essentially the same argument. And look how hateful and ignorant it sounds.

 

[brianvictor7]

do you know how many times and languages your "bible" has been translated from ?

Last I checked it was written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. So the strict answer to your question, "do you know how many ... languages your "bible" has been translated from would be from" would be three. As for how many times, I don't know but I certainly hope it keeps going up because that means more people can understand it.

Now, if you're concerned about the message being degraded, well that is why we have God fearing scholars who diligently strive to handle the text correctly. Have there been errors made in translations? Certainly there have been throughout history. Some Christian groups have even disputed which books belonged in the Scripture. One would reason, however, that God has the ability in his Providence to preserve his message through time for those willing to look for it. You can go today the oldest texts we have available to make your own translation and be reasonably sure they are exact copies of the original script (the jews were zealously exact in copying scriptures ... quite an interesting topic to read about sometime).

 

[tbrinkma]

They are illegal in the Netherlands and it works perfectly. 99% of the population has and never will be confronted by guns. There is less general violence and the prisons are more empty compared to the US.

So a 99% 'success' rate means it "works perfectly".

Out of curiosity, what was the general violence rate in the Netherlands *before* they banned guns? Was it higher than the US? Did the banning of guns have any impact on violence with regard to the rate of change over time?

Or are you just looking at two data points, and extrapolating the world from there?

 

[jpeg42]

Every single time someone screams about "pushing their gay agenda on me", they are guaranteed struggling against their own sexual tendencies. They are like a fat person trying to avoid the buffet.

Those of us who aren't ingrained with some religious agenda, and just love people for being themselves as long as they aren't hurting others (as Jesus would preach ironically), could care less.

 

[brianvictor7]

Funny how the Bible Thumpers choose to neglect some of the Leviticus Rant while holding up certain parts as Divine Authority.

I'll get to your comments in a little bit.

 

[yg17]

Straight from the dictionary and 1000's of years of history:

mar·riage
ˈmerij/
noun
1.
the legally or formally recognized union of a man and a woman

And for thousands of years, tablet was only defined as "a flat slab of stone, clay, or wood, used especially for an inscription." Now it's usually defined as "a computer that accepts input directly onto an LCD screen rather than via a keyboard or mouse." Definitions change as society progresses. You can either progress with it or be left behind.

 

[Avatar74]

Every single time someone screams about "pushing their gay agenda on me", they are guaranteed struggling against their own sexual tendencies. They are like a fat person trying to avoid the buffet.

Those of us who aren't ingrained with some religious agenda, and just love people for being themselves as long as they aren't hurting others (as Jesus would preach ironically), could care less.

It's like I often tell people, "If you had to choose to be straight, I have some news for you..."

 

[bandrews]

AGAIN, marriage by definition is NOT two men or two women, or two women and one man, or two men and one woman. Marriage by definition is ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN. So you have to redefine it. I could not care less who spends their life with each other and what they do in private. I believe we have the freedom in this country and given by God to do with out lives as we want.

The gay movement is completely wrong by thinking they have to be called "Married" Why is that word so important. Think about it. There is an agenda for sure.

mar·riage
ˈmerij/
noun
1.
the legally or formally recognized union of a man and a woman

Words are constantly being redefined. Gay is a great example. So you change a couple of words, why do you care? "Marriage" does not belong to Christianity - it predates Christianity - therefore it is not Christians' decision as to whether it can or cannot be redefined.

 

[dec.]

AGAIN, marriage by definition is NOT two men or two women, or two women and one man, or two men and one woman.

Actually it is. Our government confirmed that when they issued our wedding license, it doesn't get any more official than that .

 

[FieldingMellish]

I once saw Brokeback Mountain because I heard it was a gritty western with a love story. It think it made me go gay.

 

[vampyr]

I'm a tolerable individual, and as long as one does not 'choose' to cause harm to another, then I have no ill will towards them. I have NEVER been able to tolerate someone purposely causing harm, whether to a person, animal, or nature in general.

I want to thank some of you for allowing me to converse back and forth through this forum. I enjoy debate.
I truly enjoy reading each person's personal view and response to my comments... because it enriches me with some knowledge from you and helps me learn more about subject matter like this.

With that said... I hope we reach a point in our society where we no longer have the need to label people, to categorize people into demographics. I hope at some point, the only label that matters is 'friend'.

Peace out.

 

[Macboy Pro]

Because separate but not equal is not equal. I thought we settled that in the 1960s.

"The blacks have their own drinking fountain. Why should we redefine the white drinking fountain to allow them to use it?"

That's essentially the same argument. And look how hateful and ignorant it sounds.

Its not separate. Its would be different name. That is NOT separate. Does calling a man and man, make him unequal to a woman who is called a woman, especially if they have all the same rights. Your argument is ridiculous.

Man and woman can be called just that, and be equal. Marriage and Same Sex Union can be called that and be equal.

But that is not the agenda..... its so obvious by the arguments being made...

 

[mozumder]

It comes from the Creator of this universe. The reason there is bad in this world, is not because of God, but us.

There is no such thing as a "Creator of the universe."

Given that, now tell us where good and bad comes from.

 

[bandrews]

So a 99% 'success' rate means it "works perfectly".

Out of curiosity, what was the general violence rate in the Netherlands *before* they banned guns? Was it higher than the US? Did the banning of guns have any impact on violence with regard to the rate of change over time?

Or are you just looking at two data points, and extrapolating the world from there?

Guys, think you're on the wrong thread.

 

[mrtravel123]

... just as being gay is Tim cooks choice.

As if tens of millions of people around the would choose a sexual orientation that often means being subjected to bullying and discrimination.... both in society and via numerous laws.

Continue in your ignorance if that is what lets you sleep at night.

 

[pivo6]

Straight from the dictionary and 1000's of years of history:

mar·riage
ˈmerij/
noun
1.
the legally or formally recognized union of a man and a woman

Wrong!

Marriage

noun

the legally or formally recognized union of a man and a woman (or, in some jurisdictions, two people of the same sex) as partners in a relationship


YOU conveniently left out the last part. You'll have to come up with another excuse for your homophobia.