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Yea, I guess its sad. Pretty soon it will be a marriage will be:

1 man, 1 woman, 2 goats...When does it end?

When the day comes that a human and a goat can communicate their mutual love for each other, then we can have a serious discussion about revising the definition of marriage to include goats.
 
Wow, I'm not against homosexuals, but this is a little much. If a man actually willingly has sex with another man, he's NOT gay? I think now, I've heard it all lol.

Of course he's not gay...

Do you think that a woman who has sex with a man and a woman (as part of a threesome) is gay?

Or do you just think she's enjoying that threesome? I've no doubt there are men who have tried stuff like that within the confines of a MMW threesome and they're not gay... just sexually experimental. If their natural leaning is to have sex with women and they don't wish to enter into romantic relationships with men, they're not actually gay.

You cannot "catch the gay" from kissing someone of the same sex. If so, nearly every woman you know would be a lesbian, I assure you.

;)
 
That was Galileo. He said, "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them."

Great quote.
 
People are not necessarily born with a certain orientation nor do they necessarily consciously choose it. Human sex behaviour and gender identification is very complex. The oversimplifying statements in this thread hurt my brain. :mad:
 
When the day comes that a human and a goat can communicate their mutual love for each other, then we can have a serious discussion about revising the definition of marriage to include goats.

And when goats can enter into contracts, own property, etc.

We will likely reach this milestone with chimpanzees or dolphins first, though to be perfectly honest, most all species do not cross breed in nature.
 
again, if you would listen. I agree that they should not be treated differently, not be subject to discrimination of any sort. But call it something that fits. The word marriage means one man and one woman. That definition stands the test of history.

If the movement really wanted equality, they would be happy to get it. What they want it to use the word marriage and to get everyone to affirm it as such. It's NOT. Just plain and simple.

Well, I just changed the definition to "can be between guy & girl, 2 guys, 2 girl, a bunch of people, or whatever."

And a billion people around the world just accepted that definition.

Now what?

The people have decided to change the definition.
 
Oh man. Come on. We have the POTENTIAL to produce offspring. You know what I meant. You can't argue against it so you make absurd statements. Ugh.

So do gay couples. IVF?

It's illogical. All humans, thanks to medical advances, can reproduce. If they choose to reproduce.
 
Sometimes, you need to know why a law like that was put into place.

Taking the context, the "why" out of it destroys its purpose.

This is what Jesus addressed, that the Pharisees (Teachers of the Law) had Him executed for. He provided the context, and they hated Him for it.

Please, folks, you need to read the whole thing to get the appropriate context, if that is truly what your purpose is.

Otherwise, there is no point in using it just to further your position against it.

You want the 'why'? It's because back then women were *property* to be bought and sold, not people. Does that somehow make it 'better' that a woman who had been raped was to be put to death unless her rapist paid her father to marry her?

Please, provide the 'context' that somehow makes this particular bit of the bible 'good', or even defensible at all.
 
Oh man. Come on. We have the POTENTIAL to produce offspring. You know what I meant. You can't argue against it so you make absurd statements. Ugh.

So anyone who genetically, medically or psychologically chooses to not have children for whatever reason shouldn't be allowed to get married either?
 
I absolutely do.

I firmly, Strongly, to the very core of my being believe that we are all human, and we all have the rights to be treated equally and fairly.

I live by a rule:

Treat others the way I wish to be treated.


I would die before I vary from this.

So a child should be allowed to drive? A murderer freshly released on parole should be allowed to purchase firearms?

It's also good to know you support polygamy.
 
What exactly is your concern? That gay marriage somehow weakens your marriage (assuming you're married). There are plenty of straight people - especially celebrities who have done a fine good job of "destroying the sanctity of marriage" long before gay people were allowed to "tie the knot" (which., incidentally is a pagan phrase stolen by Christians).

I have not made any references to religious preference. My point is that this is really NOT about equality. Its about wanting affirmation. The problem is that people are allowed to believe for any reason, including religious, that same sex coupling is morally wrong. Its allowed. Everyone has that right. We don't have the right to force beliefs on someone else. That is where the homosexual movement goes way wrong. What I see are folks who believe it is not right and it is not "marriage" defending that stance. I see the homosexual movement trying to force a new definition on the rest of society. Its the complete opposite of how it is portrayed.
 
The distinction is that you can choose who to date or spend time with. You really can't choose who you're attracted to.

Do you ever choose to be attracted to someone? Specifically, is someone's attractiveness to you a conscious choice that you make?

Good point. If Joe was born bisexual and was attracted to both Megan and Dave, he would likely be more attracted to one over the other and therefore it would not be a choice.

Touche'.
 
Marriage is defined as one man and one woman. Just call one man and one man something else and give them 100% rights guaranteed. (if that was the real agenda)

Name the negative consequences of marriage in name including adult same-sex unions.
 
again, if you would listen. I agree that they should not be treated differently, not be subject to discrimination of any sort. But call it something that fits. The word marriage means one man and one woman. That definition stands the test of history.

If the movement really wanted equality, they would be happy to get it. What they want it to use the word marriage and to get everyone to affirm it as such. It's NOT. Just plain and simple.

The word marriage has meant a lot of things:

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Says the straight bigot who knows nothing about being gay. Are you getting your science from Fox News???

So I guess by your logic, calling the Bible the word of God doesn't make it a fact either.

I believe the bible but I wouldn't call it a fact because it is not possible to prove it. I understand logic and reasoning. Your absurd comments about me being s bigot and getting my science from FoxNews reveals your ignorance and inability to reason. I'm not aware of foxnews making taking any position the science of being gay.

Your absurdity is tiring and boring.
 
People are not necessarily born with a certain orientation nor do they necessarily consciously choose it. Human sex behaviour and gender identification is very complex. The oversimplifying statements in this thread hurt my brain. :mad:

I agree with your assessment. I have simply stated they're born that way because to get as complex as you just did would have caused more arguments than oversimplifying it here. As the thread as borne out thus far.

This thread is indeed frustrating.
 
Its legally separate.

Do they get the same tax breaks? Health insurance? Other legal protections?

As I have said over and over. They should be equal and not discriminated upon in any fashion. They should not re-define what marriage is.
 
And when goats can enter into contracts, own property, etc.

We will likely reach this milestone with chimpanzees or dolphins first, though to be perfectly honest, most all species do not cross breed in nature.

Why are you placing conditions and limitations on marriage all of a sudden? I thought that was taboo?
 
So a child should be allowed to drive? A murderer freshly released on parole should be allowed to purchase firearms?

It's also good to know you support polygamy.

you're being assanine.

Equality doesn't preclude accountable for actions. Neither does my statement

If i murdered someone, I wouldn't wish to be given a gun upon release or granted early unjust parole.

I openly support Polygamy. If a group of people, who are consenting adults, come to a mutually beneficial contract in which they are all happy, productive members of society, and in no way affect, hurt or impact societies well being,

What right do I have to tell them to stop? They aren't hurting me. They aren't hurting anyone. A house with 5 mothers, 2 fathers might very well be a happy home capable of bringing up children to be well adjusted.
 
Oh man. Come on. We have the POTENTIAL to produce offspring. You know what I meant. You can't argue against it so you make absurd statements. Ugh.

I love how you started off in this thread grandstanding as open minded independent but the more and more you talk the more your prejudices reveal themselves.
 
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