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Apple CEO Tim Cook Says Contact Tracing API Available From April 28
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It would not shock me at all if 20-30 million in the US have/had it already with most either not knowing or thinking it was the flu/cold/allergies.
You’re assuming they’re not looking at signal strength and time spent in proximity. Fortunately, the people designing this aren’t relying on armchair quarterbacks.
I think you're not understanding. They're not saying the virus is fake, they're saying the response is BS. Yes, the virus is very real, yes it is extremely contagious, yes it kills people, but in reality it's no more lethal than the common flu. The BS part is the reaction - the world is being wrecked over a non-issue. Freedoms are being erased, the constitution is being trampled, people's livelihoods are being destroyed, and massive shortages and disruptions are coming. All this destruction for nothing. The "cure" IS worse than the disease. In the end, shutting down the country, and the world, will end up killing far more people that the virus will. That is what is truly tragic.
aaaaaand just like clockwork, the bootlickers come out defending this idiocy saying it’s all good because apple really cares about your privacy. No thanks, apple.
One size does not fit all. I am sure we could dig up lots and lots and lots of cities and towns around the US that have not had a single death and very few confirmed cases but lots of un-employed people and failing businesses in those same cities and towns.
New York City has 8.5 million people crammed in a small space with lots of them using public transportation. It is a hub for international travel and meetings. It is not a shock they are impacted more than most places and they should continue to use as much caution as possible.
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If this stuff gets on my iPhone and I can't disable it, I will turn off my phone when I leave my house.
There is so much that goes into why certain countries have been hit harder than others. For starters, the average Swede is WAY healthier than the average American. America is a very unhealthy country compared to other first world countries, and this virus is highlighting this vulnerability. Whether it's high blood pressure, obesity, smoking, or just lack of general self-hygiene, all of these factors play into chances of beating the virus.
Taking this into account, and given Sweden's strategy is working so well, the US should have a higher ratio of deaths, right? Wrong, Sweden has a higher mortality rate than the US. Obviously in terms of total deaths, their count is lower, but their population is 33 times smaller. To dumb down this comparison, Sweden has 2,000 deaths vs. US count of 45,000. Scaling Sweden to the US, their death count is 66,000, or 46% higher. Is that "fine" to you? It's important to note that while Sweden has some restaurants and bars open, many nonessential businesses are actually still closed, and everyone is working from home or social distancing. Initial data shows that Sweden may see a slightly smaller decrease in GDP compared to the US, but they are paying for that in more lives. It's not like Sweden is operating as they were pre-COVID-19.
Not sure where you get your news from, but everything I mentioned above is data and facts. Not news headlines from biased media outlets. The best thing anyone can do in uncertain times is make decisions and form opinions based on data, not shared articles on Facebook. Regarding the studies you mentioned, none of these are peer reviewed, meaning they shouldn't be relied upon. The folks that conducted the tests listed many data quality/biases in their process, which is why their margin of error is in the tens of millions. Kind of ironic you fault the media, yet I would bet you relied on a media's headline regarding these studies vs. actually reading the study, or you would've realized this.
At this point, no one disagrees that there are more infected cases in the wild vs. confirmed cases via tests. However, since the US is still inept at widespread testing months after being made aware of this virus, we don't have the data available to make informed decisions, meaning we can't resume life as we knew it. Hopefully that changes in the coming months, though if this past month is any indication, I'm not holding my breath that things will improve overnight. This whole situation has thankfully shown that most US citizens are altruistic and selfless, and would rather save the lives of fellow Americans vs. taking a gamble on a material % of the population (your figure of 99.9% is made up, but know that is still 330,000 deaths) so that they can rush back out to a bar or shopping mall.
Indeed, it’s been my experience That children can sometimes adapt to significant changes much more easily than adults, who have gotten used to doing things the same way for decades.wanna bet?
Sweden did nothing? They relied on the common sense of people to keep distance. Did this work out well? They are now worse off than most countries in Europe, being in the middle of an exponential growth path. If a healthy young population contracts the Virus, the likelihood of being hospitalised is 2-3% according to latest studies. There is a pretty well designed French study that excludes retirement homes from the statistics and finds a CFR of 0.5%, which is in line with other studies (0.2-0.9%). There are also studies that suggest that even asymptomatic cases might suffer from long lasting, if not permanent, damage of the lung cells. The corrected CFR in the US is 8% at the moment, which means that even if you are off by a factor of 40%, this disease is worse than even a really bad flu season. I think it is safe to say that humanity knows too little to make a call on this and it's in the best interest to give scientists at least a bit more time to understand how this can be treated and in which situation we are in. Germany and South Korea did that, they were able to identify the first cases/clusters and the society, to a wide extend, accepted the social distancing recommendations and the soft-lockdown, this is why they are both in a rather lucky position for now. Germany has 5000+ cases that died from the Virus, the regular flu seasons has 100-200 diagnosed cases that die from it (other numbers are estimates based on the excess fatality rate), so we are already 25-50 times worse off than an entire flu season with just 2-3 months into this pandemic.
You’re spreading misinformation. Stop it.
I wonder if Tim ever uses his MBP webcam and think to himself, “Jeez, this thing isn’t good at all.” Lol.
Sweden is about twice the population of Norway. In comparison to Norway, Sweden has twice as many active cases, a higher case rate per million population, 35 times the new deaths yesterday, over ten times the raw number of deaths, and six times the death rate per million.
We have different opinions on what constitutes 'fine'.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Sure you can. I rarely go out. Even before the Covid pandemic. No problem for me. I basically dislike most people so I’m happy with lockdown. I don’t have to deal will others.
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Whose redecorating? I went to HD to replace a leaking faucet.
You are correct. One of Sweden's top epidemiologists, Johan Giesecke, a scientist with top credentials and a member of the Strategic and Technical Advisory Group for Infectious Hazards at the WHO, is convinced half the population of the UK and Sweden have already had the virus and never even knew it. I'm with science on this one.
How does it feel to spread misinformation? You will have blood on your hands! Think of the body bags!!!
You should try reading and listening to scientists. Here is the bio on Johan Giesecke from the WHO website:
"Johan Giesecke trained as an infectious disease clinician in Stockholm, Sweden during the 1980’s, and from his work with AIDS patients he became interested in the epidemiology of infectious diseases. He received an MSc in epidemiology from London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine in 1992, and then worked as a Senior Lecturer at the school for a few years. After this he became State Epidemiologist for Sweden (1995 to 2005) and during a one-year sabbatical 1999-2000 he led the group working on the revision of the International Health Regulations at WHO HQ. From 2005 to 2014 he was the first Chief Scientist of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC).
Professor Giesecke has written a textbook on infectious disease epidemiology, and now teaches on this subject as a professor emeritus at the Karolinska Institute Medical University in Stockholm."
You can read his books or listen to him on youtube videos. That will give you a better understanding of viruses and epidemics in general. I generally trust the opinion from a top scientist over the option of a politician.
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Opinion, not option
PAGING COCKY JEREMY! Do you ever come back to defend your position once it has been questioned?
In reality, the flu isn't even close to being as bad as Covid-19. Mortality rate for common flu is .1%.
Why Covid-19 is worse than the flu, in one chart
It’s more contagious, more deadly (particularly for older people), and it has a greater potential to overwhelm our health care system.
www.vox.com
Huh?
What are you talking about? My post has absolutely nothing to do with responses or “one size fitting all.”