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Apple CEO Tim Cook Speaks on Importance of Privacy, Encryption at Champions of Freedom Event
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I am all for privacy. But I also don't want to pay too much. Currently, iCloud costs about twice as much as competitors. At the very least, I sincerely hope Apple will (1) increase free storage to something more reasonable and (2) reduce price by at least half.
If you ask me, considering most active iPhone users upgrade their phone every 1-3 years, Apple can afford to offer free unlimited photo storage. Charge only for video.
If you ask me, considering most active iPhone users upgrade their phone every 1-3 years, Apple can afford to offer free unlimited photo storage. Charge only for video.
Tim's "social rights" comments really, really seem to bother you. You make the same comments on AI. Why does this annoy you so much? It doesn't in any way hurt the bottom line, if that is what you are worried about. Do your conservative friends make fun of you because you use Apple products and their CEO is gay and outspoken?
Neither does Google. They just use the data to build a profile about you, which they then use to sell targeted advertising space. Apple's iAd does exactly the same. On their iAd marketing page, Apple boasts that they are offering "over 400 targeting options" to advertisers, which means that they maintain detailed profiles about their users. That includes e.g. location, demographic information like age and gender, information about your tastes from tracking your music/movie/book purchases etc. They have also recently added a mechanism to track what you do in apps.
Or you could educate yourself: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074
Does Google give you that option?
I have the choice to not be the product for a company. There is no free lunch and I certainly would rather buy my own lunch, thank you very much. Nice that we all have a choice indeed.
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Apple and the like should be more vocal on social or human rights issues....since they are all considered people now right? Regardless, Apple will be stronger voicing support for those issues it chooses since it's Apple's and Cook's prerogative. Those who suggest others should "shut up" should probably heed their own advice.
Love it! I always thought I was the only one that cared that google mines the hell out of everything and that I'm "paranoid" or "who cares, I have nothing to hide".
It's not about hiding. Would you feel comfortable to see a bunch of advertisers taking notes outside the windows of your house on everything you do, even though you have nothing to hide. Same exact issue.
Will continue to support apple because of this.
It's not about hiding. Would you feel comfortable to see a bunch of advertisers taking notes outside the windows of your house on everything you do, even though you have nothing to hide. Same exact issue.
Will continue to support apple because of this.
Where do Google spell this out? Tech savvy people such as macrumors forum members may know, but my parents would have no idea.
I would say Facebook and Google hide it very well.
I have tried both Google Photos and iCloud Photo Library. You are right, my UI preference aside, Google Photos is superior to iCloud Photo Library in (1) price, (2) speed, (3) search, and (4) auto collection.
Apple can afford to catch Google in terms of price. But iCloud Photo is just so darn slow with my large library.
Having said that, WWDC is just around the corner and I would give Apple benefit of the doubt. I would love to have both privacy and price + speed.
lol what? so you respect Google cause they're evil but you forget one of the principals they preach is not to be evil?
Amen to this.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the NSA and other agencies can still access OS X and iOS, it's just the smaller agencies that will have to get a warrant?
This talk is hollow and provides a false sense of security and trust in Apple. It "may" make law enforcement agencies and state sponsored spying a tiny bit more difficult but not much.
Killing their own data collecting and ad targeting would make me respect Cook more. Our spy agencies laugh at this...
Oh, and a big fu to the new forum. It is working horribly on my iPhone.
I generally like Cook. I think he has done a bang of job of, not only maintaining Apple's financial status after Jobs, but increasing it to an unbelievable level. I dislike when he does the disingenuous Google "you're the product" thing. For a guy who seems to value honesty and integrity, he seems to forget about it when the subject of advertising arises. Cook knows that Google sells ad space and not customer's personal data. He also knows Apple does the exact same thing. It's Google's main source of revenue, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a source of revenue for Apple as well. Albeit much smaller, but still a source of revenue nonetheless. Does iAds' failure to generate significant income somehow make it better than what Google does? Google sells hardware too. Apple just sells more. Is selling hardware somehow more noble than selling ad space? Especially since advertisers have no idea who you are and that you received their ad.
Google collects a ton of information on customers. A crap ton. Information such as occupation, language, zip code, area code, unique device identifier, referrer URL, location, and the time zone where a product is used so that we can better understand customer behavior and improve our products, services, and advertising. <That is straight from Apple's privacy policy. It's what Apple does as well.
Google does targeted advertising using anonymous data. The advertisers know nothing about their customers. Same with Apple. Why do you think Tim says "we don't share your personal information"? Of course they don't. He knows Google doesn't either since they would be out of business pretty quickly if advertisers had direct access to the customer. There would be no need to pay Google. Apple does datamine. They tell you that in the privacy policy. Saying they don't share personal information is a feint that doesn't address the reality they do what Google does.
And that crack about Google's Photo's app... that sad. Photo's is silo'd. They remain private.
Tim's better than that. He should stop it.
Google collects a ton of information on customers. A crap ton. Information such as occupation, language, zip code, area code, unique device identifier, referrer URL, location, and the time zone where a product is used so that we can better understand customer behavior and improve our products, services, and advertising. <That is straight from Apple's privacy policy. It's what Apple does as well.
Google does targeted advertising using anonymous data. The advertisers know nothing about their customers. Same with Apple. Why do you think Tim says "we don't share your personal information"? Of course they don't. He knows Google doesn't either since they would be out of business pretty quickly if advertisers had direct access to the customer. There would be no need to pay Google. Apple does datamine. They tell you that in the privacy policy. Saying they don't share personal information is a feint that doesn't address the reality they do what Google does.
And that crack about Google's Photo's app... that sad. Photo's is silo'd. They remain private.
Tim's better than that. He should stop it.
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"You might like these so-called free services, but we don't think they're worth having your email, your search history and now even your family photos data mined and sold off for god knows what advertising purpose."
Quick question - when someone gives a speech, you don't know whether that's a small g or a capital G, do you? Tech Crunch (which MR apparently quoted) thinks it's a small g, while The Verge thinks it's a capital G.
I suppose Tim could tell us - and certainly God knows - but it's interesting to see which one an author attributes to the speaker.
I'm curious. What do you think Google does that Apple doesn't do? I ask because reading the responses to this article leads me to believe a lot of members in this forum don't know what either company actually does when it comes to data mining and advertising.
Most likely pagan gods. Google and Apple are most unholy. "God" is shaking is head at Cook's smoke screen today. Tsk tsk
And the author probably has little religious background, or study.
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How about Facebook? People post their entire lives (along with photo albums) on that thing. Don't just blame Google and think they're the only one doing it.
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It's great that Cook is saying this given the position Apple are in. Other major tech players have much more divided loyalties and motivations, even though they probably all know that weakening encryption is kind of insane, for many reasons.
Make 96% of their profits from selling advertising? I think Apple make most of their profits from selling actual physical products. Am I wrong?
Make 96% of their profits from selling advertising? I think Apple make most of their profits from selling actual physical products. Am I wrong?
That's irrelevant. Where each company makes the majority of their profit has nothing to do with the question of privacy and being evil. When it comes to advertising, Apple and Google do the exact same thing. They sell ad space based on anonymous data. Neither company shares customers data.
Apple makes their money selling hardware, apps, and services (including advertising). Google makes their money selling hardware, apps, and services (including advertising). Again, where they make the majority of their money is irrelevant.