Apple CEO Tim Cook Talks Immigration, Human Rights, Privacy, Apple News and More in New Interview

[SteveW928]

But the Mac Mini is not an important Mac. Almost everything you would use a Mac Mini for could be solved by a more expensive Mac. It was a machine for Windows switcher. It is really not needed anymore.

First, note, I was talking about Macs on the whole, not just the mini... but

It sure could be. Apple doesn't have anything until you get to the Mac Pro. They need a prosumer Mac somewhere in the lineup.

While yes, it was initially targeted at the Windows switcher, they got used for all sorts of things. And, a lot of developers used them as well, who weren't yet in the 'big time' to afford the Pro machines.

The HomePod, Watch, and Carpool Karaoke, etc. aren't all that important either, but Apple seems to find time for those.

The Mac Pro was abandoned. Again, it is not an important Mac since so few uses it. Apple should have had the guts to just cancel the entire Mac Pro line and loose some of its high-end users.

Maybe you'll have to walk me through how few using = importance. I think that's kind of the small-thinking, pie-chart type problem I'm complaining about.

It would sell less than an million per year. Also the Mac Mini was made for Windows switchers. It is supposed to be the weakest and least capable of all Macs, so that it does not compete with other more expensive Macs.

Everyone here wants it to be a different machine than it is supposed to be.

I'm not sure how you know how many it would sell. Its current low sales are a self-fulfilling prophecy.

There is no reason it has to be the weakest machine either (by some wide margin)... Apple has stated in the past they don't care that much about product line cannibalism (though their actions often don't quite match that talk, so maybe that's a point).

Different than it was supposed to be? What do you call the 2012 Mini quad-core? I just want something like that with current CPU and ports.

 

[dilbert99]

That is the alternative, sideloading from Xcode.

So you think that is a viable option for an appstore? Tell me more how you think this would operate successfully?

 

[fairuz]

So you think that is a viable option for an appstore? Tell me more how you think this would operate successfully?

Advanced users who really want the choice to download open source apps and sideload them can.
Beta testers can use TestFlight.
Regular (>99.9% of) users don't have to deal with there being a million different app stores and get more protection against malware.

 

[dilbert99]

Advanced users who really want the choice to download open source apps and sideload them can.
Beta testers can use TestFlight.
Regular (>99.9% of) users don't have to deal with there being a million different app stores and get more protection against malware.

An 80% of statistics are made up on the spot.
There is currently no alternative app store for iOS

 

[fairuz]

An 80% of statistics are made up on the spot.
There is currently no alternative app store for iOS

 

[dilbert99]

Not sure what point you are trying to make?
Are you showing me that when you search for the number of people in the US the browser shows it bigger?

I'd take a guess that number of iOS developers between us is 1 and that the number of people in us is 2.

 

[Wanted797]

Steve rarely ever talked politics. Almost everything he talked about was technology and his vision of it both current and future. His life revolved around “the product” and how others did it wrong, but he was going to do it right. I loved the interviews when Bill Gates and Steve Jobs would be interviewed together. You could just feel the mutual respect they had for each other as tech visonaries, but how deep their competitive animosity was for each other. You’ll never see Tim Cook sit down with Bill Gates for an interview. He doesn’t understand the product well enough. He’s a politician and bean counter.

Sure Apple is doing great right now, but they are still living off of Jobs vision. Cooks Apple just slowly improves things that Jobs already thought up (in the case of the iDevices) and hasn’t done much of anything with the Mac other then introduce less ports and problematic keyboards. It’s a formula that works for the present and near future when you’ve got a popular brand to market, but consumer tastes change and tech evolves rapidly. It’s a formula that won’t work forever. All of these political interviews prove that Cook has no vision for product. He’s mostly concerned with this stuff while Apple runs on cruise control.

If you need any more proof watch some old Apple keynotes before Jobs got real sick. Watch him introduce and demonstrate new products. The introduction of the iPhone and iPad are great examples. He was so excited to show them off and he knew the product inside and out. Cook doesn't even demonstrate the products. He says hello and hands it off to everyone else. His passion is politics not product.

I can only agree. Steve truly cared for the product that his customers used and making it great.

He knew what was good and didn’t keep a screwed and messy product line. Like we see today.

The biggest thing I miss about keynotes is a person talking about the great new product rather than this era of ‘we’ve prepared a short video’.

 

[thasan]

Must be nice to have people working for below market wages for those things you consume.

Problem is people have become entitled to this artificially low pricing that is the result of the exploitation of these illegal immigrants... but you knew that right?
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Considering nobody cared, the absence of evidence in this case is proof of it.

Otherwise, you wouldn’t have people intentionally pretending that photos from 2013-2016 occurred under Trump’s administration.

its not whether i like it or not. in an extreme case, if ur cleaner gets paid the same amount u get paid being a CEO, there wont a civil society.
I support migration because it gives a better life to those people. if you stop migration, they suffer badly. your food cost, living standard etc inside the country suffer. and before u judge, no, i dont employ anyone. i do all works myself. and yes, i am a migrant myself, and now working in UK.

 

[I7guy]

Steve rarely ever talked politics.

I like it that Apple is more humanitarian and that Tim Cook takes some sort of stand against the issues of the day.

Almost everything he talked about was technology and his vision of it both current and future. His life revolved around “the product” and how others did it wrong, but he was going to do it right. I loved the interviews when Bill Gates and Steve Jobs would be interviewed together. You could just feel the mutual respect they had for each other as tech visonaries, but how deep their competitive animosity was for each other. You’ll never see Tim Cook sit down with Bill Gates for an interview. He doesn’t understand the product well enough. He’s a politician and bean counter.

He is a politician, bean counter and visionary. Apple is doing extremely well under Cook and hasn’t sank like the titanic.

Sure Apple is doing great right now, but they are still living off of Jobs vision. Cooks Apple just slowly improves things that Jobs already thought up (in the case of the iDevices) and hasn’t done much of anything with the Mac other then introduce less ports and problematic keyboards. It’s a formula that works for the present and near future when you’ve got a popular brand to market, but consumer tastes change and tech evolves rapidly. It’s a formula that won’t work forever. All of these political interviews prove that Cook has no vision for product. He’s mostly concerned with this stuff while Apple runs on cruise control.

All I know is the valuation of Apple under Cook is approaching 1t. A bean counter who pisses of his customers would never have this happen.

If you need any more proof watch some old Apple keynotes before Jobs got real sick. Watch him introduce and demonstrate new products. The introduction of the iPhone and iPad are great examples. He was so excited to show them off and he knew the product inside and out. Cook doesn't even demonstrate the products. He says hello and hands it off to everyone else. His passion is politics not product.

I don’t need any more proof that Cook is doing the job that Steve Jobs set him up for.

 

[SteveW928]

All I know is the valuation of Apple under Cook is approaching 1t. A bean counter who pisses of his customers would never have this happen.

There is a lag between actions and reaction, especially in terms of their revenue/profits, especially when you have built up massive brand momentum and have some incredibly successful products. We'll know more about the impact of Tim in the last few years, in 5-10 years from now.

After Apple ousted Jobs the, the company did well for several years before the bean-counters and 'business experts' mucked it up.

Apple and Tim clearly learned some lessons from those days, so they are not mucking up all the same things, but my complaint is that they seem to have switched vision and priorities. Some might think that new vision is a great thing, but it concerns me longer-term. And, I've never seen a business do better when you switch priorities to marketing/profits from making the best stuff and UX.

If you already have great stuff, and then you go into bean-counter mode, you can often extract extra out of what is there (if you weren't previously bean-counting as aggressively), but you often make longer-term tradeoffs by doing so, for short-term gains.

 

[I7guy]

There is a lag between actions and reaction, especially in terms of their revenue/profits, especially when you have built up massive brand momentum and have some incredibly successful products. We'll know more about the impact of Tim in the last few years, in 5-10 years from now.

After Apple ousted Jobs the, the company did well for several years before the bean-counters and 'business experts' mucked it up.

Apple and Tim clearly learned some lessons from those days, so they are not mucking up all the same things, but my complaint is that they seem to have switched vision and priorities. Some might think that new vision is a great thing, but it concerns me longer-term. And, I've never seen a business do better when you switch priorities to marketing/profits from making the best stuff and UX.

If you already have great stuff, and then you go into bean-counter mode, you can often extract extra out of what is there (if you weren't previously bean-counting as aggressively), but you often make longer-term tradeoffs by doing so, for short-term gains.

I dont know, I no longer have a horse in the game although I do like where Apple is headed. Hoping the current mgmt team is smart enough not to muck things up.

Good post.

 

[SteveW928]

I dont know, I no longer have a horse in the game although I do like where Apple is headed. Hoping the current mgmt team is smart enough not to muck things up.

Good post.

Yeah, it isn't all bad. I think Apple rightly has recognized a fundamental change in computing with iOS (at least for the masses). But, where I think they are failing, is in giving such priority to that market while failing their traditional market in so many ways. That won't have a shorter-term impact, so this whole idea of looking at the current Stock Market valuation is flawed (even if that really had much correlation with real success in the first place!).

Much of Apple's past success flew in the face of 'traditional business wisdom' and 'tech analysts' and such. Now, they seem to be falling in line with those. That doesn't necessarily indicate all bad things... tech analysts or traditional business wisdom has some things to offer, but they are usually shorter term and non-visionary in nature.

But, when I start seeing such actions at the expense of things Apple used to be doing right, especially those that were visionary and far-reaching in impact, I start to get worried. It's kind of the whole 'skate to where the puck will be' kind of thing. I have my doubts about whether Apple has that anymore... or if they do, whether it is being stifled by the 'suits' or allowed to run a bit too wild w/o the restraint of someone with real vision.

 

[amegicfox]

Apple needs a young person who is competent and passionate about technology as their CEO

Tim Cook in neither

 

[I7guy]

Apple needs a young person who is competent and passionate about technology as their CEO

Tim Cook in neither

I don't think he will be leaving for company for a while. He is liked where it counts.