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It's important that he's using this platform to get what Apple wants, not necessarily what you want.

And also NBC via MSNBC is the biggest purveyor of FAKE NEWS out there, followed closely by CNN.
Some of their TV hosts actually think the President will be impeached like in just a month!
They say it on the air every day like there's a chance it will happen like tomorrow, but it won't anytime soon if EVER!

Let me guess... you think FOX News is the only accurate source of news?

FOX leans heavily right, MSNBC leans heavily left. They both take stories and slant them one way or the other, but neither are fake, per say. Fake News is the stories posted on the internet that have no sources but get shared exponentially on social media. I actually feel like NBC News proper (not MSNBC) does a pretty good job of staying neutral, especially Lester Holt.
 
I wish that guy spent as much time lighting a fire under the you-know-whats of the Mac team, as he does being a SJW.
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Let me guess... you think FOX News is the only accurate source of news?

FOX leans heavily right, MSNBC leans heavily left. They both take stories and slant them one way or the other, but neither are fake, per say. Fake News is the stories posted on the internet that have no sources but get shared exponentially on social media. I actually feel like NBC News proper (not MSNBC) does a pretty good job of staying neutral, especially Lester Holt.

They all have mix of fake and real news. Do you really think any of the MSM carefully check sources anymore? Most of the time, when there is an error or fake news, they all report the same thing. Often, it's likely because they all got the same 'package' to report on.
 
Worthless speculation time: What do you think the cause is?




Facebook trying to claim that Russia used Facebook to swing the election is fake news: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...n-politicians-how-0004-traffic-swung-election



$100K in ads, some of which ran AFTER the election versus the over $1.8 Billion spent during the election.
0.004% to "swing" an election?

Russians controlling the election is fake news.

Yup. The Main Stream Media controlling the election is not fake news. The coastal libearls have not liked Trump from the start and will do whatever they can to overthrow their own president. Because they know better than you. Sickening.
 
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The problem is that you make it sound extremely black and white. You make it seem as if, just because Tim Cook sides with Democrats and liberal views, that he must be in on all the corruption happening behind the scenes and is in on it.

At the end of the day corruption and abuse of power can be found on both "sides" (democrats and republicans), but that doesn't define everyone in that "group".

What matters are their principles in general, and it seems pretty logical to me to pick the side that believes in equality, giving everyone a fair chance, trying to reduce negative impact on the earth, etc. They all sound like pretty sane things.

Every group will always have their flaws, but if you dismiss everything quickly just because of that, you'd never get anywhere.

Yep, you either fight the corruption or you implicitly approve it. He implicitly approves it. He will attack Trump in a NY minute, but has he said anything about the Hollywood or Democrats (i.e. Clinton's and Obama's) entanglement with Weinstein. Nope, and he won't because he believes that a large part of Apple's future depends on Hollywood. He puts money and success ahead of principle just like every other Tech Company CEO, but he does want you to think otherwise.

You find out about people by their actions or lack of actions, not their words. Since he repeats things I know for a fact are lies, then I know he is not the person most people think.

Your right about Democrats and Republicans, excluding Trump, I see no real difference in behavior. There maybe a handful of politicians that are not corrupt and I allow that they might be either Republican or Democrat I am sure Trump is corrupt, but at this point in his life he is more interested in building America, than building his personal fortune.

What is typically ignored and the main thing to learn from the Hollywood corruption is that because someone talks like they believe in "good principles, equality, giving everyone a fair chance" does not mean they behave that way. But we know that talking about this stuff is just a cover with both Democrats and Hollywood. Cook is or wants to be in bed with both, so he has to believe the same things. He started attacking Trump before he even met him, based only on fake news distributed by the Democrat machine. He has demonstrated that he is an ideologue, facts don't matter.
 
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Yep, you either fight the corruption or you implicitly approve it. He implicitly approves it. He will attack Trump in a NY minute, but has he said anything about the Hollywood or Democrats (i.e. Clinton's and Obama's) entanglement with Weinstein. Nope, and he won't because he believes that a large part of Apple's future depends on Hollywood. He puts money and success ahead of principle just like every other Tech Company CEO, but he does want you to think otherwise.

Well, and he also lives in the Bay Area, and has personal reasons for political leanings. I've known pretty conservative people who, after a decade in the Bay Area, became what we think of as the typical liberal, even to an extreme extent.

And, while it's probably good to have one's views challenged, correct some stereotypes, and move some on positions as one matures, the Bay Area is an echo-chamber pretty hard to resist unless you've got some really principled undergirding.

Your right about Democrats and Republicans, excluding Trump, I see no real difference in behavior. There maybe a handful of politicians that are not corrupt and I allow that they might be either Republican or Democrat I am sure Trump is corrupt, but at this point in his life he is more interested in building America, than building his personal fortune.

Yes, especially in terms of corruption. There is little difference. But, it even goes beyond that. Aside from some pet ideologies and interests, there really isn't that much difference between the two camps on some pretty big things (economics, foreign policy, corporate and special interests). You can especially see this if you watch what is going on in Congress.

A great podcast is Congressional Dish (note: the host is fairly liberal-'progressive' but the info is quite good... you just may/may not agree with her takes on what's good or bad.) If you can listen to a few episodes and not come away enraged, no matter which party you affiliate with, I'd be surprised.

What is typically ignored and the main thing to learn from the Hollywood corruption is that because someone talks like they believe in "good principles, equality, giving everyone a fair chance" does not mean they behave that way. But we know that talking about this stuff is just a cover with both Democrats and Hollywood. Cook is or wants to be in bed with both, so he has to believe the same things. He started attacking Trump before he even met him, based only on fake news distributed by the Democrat machine. He has demonstrated that he is an ideologue, facts don't matter.

Yes, while I'm happy to admit I don't think Trump is a very good person, nor do I agree with some of his decisions... you have to recognize what the alternative was. I've never seen this level of hatred, disrespect, etc. towards any other politician. I really, really dislike Hillary, but if she has won, I (and hopefully other conservatives) wouldn't have reacted like the 'Left' is reacting towards Trump. And, I hate that I often have to defend someone I didn't even vote for (Trump) because he's being so maligned by the media and pop-Left. My gosh, he does enough stupid stuff... you don't have to make up things about him.
 
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FOX leans heavily right, MSNBC leans heavily left.

MSNBC leans heavily left.
NBC leans heavily left.
ABC leans heavily left.
CBS leans heavily left.
CNN leans heavily left.
New York Times, Washington Post, Huffington Post all lean heavily left, too
(but let's limit this to the big broadcasters)

The largest news outlets I can think of right now, with Fox as an exception at times, deliver the same left-bias messaging in lockstep. The difference between them and Fox is that they pretend to be unbiased (which Fox did too with that "Fair and Balanced" crap for a while).

The Wikileaks release of the DNC emails (https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/) revealed at least 65 reporters working with Hillary's campaign. Reporters attended dinners without disclosing, rewrote articles with positive spin without disclosing (one guy called himself a hack), got talking points and marching orders from Hillary's campaign without disclosing, and more. 0 reporters from Fox were revealed to be involved, but a lot of faces from the heavily-left-leaning orgs were:
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Let's also not forget the near-rockstar treatment reporters gave Hillary Clinton (who barely campaigned). Compare their hostility to Trump to the gushing reaction they had for Hillary when interviewing her on her plane:
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Also remember how many anchors from these networks were sad / angry / dismayed on election night 2016. Do you think this is the reaction of a man who is even close to being neutral?

Most management and executives of the big broadcast networks mentioned above have had close relationships to high-ranking Democrats over the years. With connections like these, ask yourself how much leaking happened on Obama's watch?
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Fox gets condemnation from the left for being "far right", but in reality they are closer to center-right. They have some right-leaning broadcasters like Hannity, but they also have quite a few cuckholds like Shepard Smith, former Megyn Kelly, etc. The number of left-leaning broadcasters in all of media media outnumbers the number of right-leaning ones by probably 10:1 or something stupid. Yet for leftists that's "unacceptable".
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On the whole, I don't think Fox is a much better news organization. I just wanted to absolutely destroy any notion that MSNBC / NBC / ABC / CBS / CNN / etc. are somehow equal or better when they are provably in-bed with and overwhelmingly biased for Democrats.
 
On the whole, I don't think Fox is a much better news organization. I just wanted to absolutely destroy any notion that MSNBC / NBC / ABC / CBS / CNN / etc. are somehow equal or better when they are provably in-bed with and overwhelmingly biased for Democrats.

Yea, you're better informed if you ignore the whole lot of them. Because, if you can't separate the fake news and propaganda from the actual news (and even then, take the spin and bias off the reporting of it), you're going to be MIS-informed. Yes, they are THAT bad.
 
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