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"Samsung" is also not a company, but a group of companies.

They make screens for all sorts of things that use screens and memory for the same. Most of what they make is not for phones.
 
Selling smartphones are easier to generate revenue and it will continue to grow and sustain. Selling iPhones and service will be Apple main bread and butter. I have read many complaints here about Apple neglecting and/or lack of support for their other products so I am not surprised to see much attention given to iPhones.

My phone replacement cycles are lengthening mainly because the newer models have gotten so expensive and it feels wasteful to upgrade for the sake of upgrading.

I'm currently on a iPhone 6s plus 128 gig and it works fine. sure the camera isn't as good as the latest models but it does everything else well.
I agree with you. I am using a hand-me-down i6 I took from my kid and nothing from i7and through the current lineup have made me want to upgrade. When Apple announce the new lineup next month and nothing impressive, I will continue to use what I have. Right now the i6 does everything I need from a smartphone.

NO, just the idiots that drive them.
Society have evolved where we now place blame on objects and not the person.
 
"It was about doing something great for the user. Treat users and customers well and you have a good business over time. That's how we look at that."

So, for the MAC user, Apple seems to have lost their focus and not treated them well. It’s all about the smart phone! Apple is doing a great job treating those customers well while the rest of the Apple hardware lineup fades into the background.

The MAC was Apple’s founding and the customer base was vast, but over time that customer base has begun to evaporate from the lack of innovation which had been reliable until a few years ago with the introduction of the smart phone. If Steve Jobs could only see his company now, what would have he said?
 
Dude it's been 7 years since Steve Jobs died. Give everyone a break.

Yeah it's embarrassing to see how little Apple have done in those past 7 years.
What did Steve do during his 1st 7 years after taking control back of Apple?

A Hell of a lot more than Tim could ever dream of.
Come on, we all know Steve built the boat, and Tim and his crew are simply sailing the boat in an almost straight line, afraid to turn off course too much for a long as they can.
 
Yeah it's embarrassing to see how little Apple have done in those past 7 years.
What did Steve do during his 1st 7 years after taking control back of Apple?

A Hell of a lot more than Tim could ever dream of.
Come on, we all know Steve built the boat, and Tim and his crew are simply sailing the boat in an almost straight line, afraid to turn off course too much for a long as they can.

Everyone else is sinking, so let's keep the boat in that direction.
 
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"It was about doing something great for the user. Treat users and customers well and you have a good business over time. That's how we look at that."

So, for the MAC user, Apple seems to have lost their focus and not treated them well. It’s all about the smart phone! Apple is doing a great job treating those customers well while the rest of the Apple hardware lineup fades into the background.

The MAC was Apple’s founding and the customer base was vast, but over time that customer base has begun to evaporate from the lack of innovation which had been reliable until a few years ago with the introduction of the smart phone. If Steve Jobs could only see his company now, what would have he said?

What do you want him to say?

Times change, Apple has changed in keeping with the times, and that’s just the way she goes.
 
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Sorry, Tim, but all Apple is doing right now is relying mostly on their success before Steve was gone. The iPhone X is a good phone, but it’s not a revolution. It’s an iPhone. At a ridiculous price point. The Mac has almost been forgotten, the MacBook Pro for example has lost many features like MagSafe, indicator light, mostly all ports and everything is soldered and glued together... why? What is the benefit for the user? I don’t get it. Removing features is not an improvement just by doing so! Also the price is a joke. The touch bar is a nice gimmick, but it’s not optional so I have to buy this piece of emoji display ****. The keyboard... worst typing on an Apple keyboard, ever. The HomePod is an overpriced speaker with a very sad Siri that still feels like in beta and the price is a joke, again. I could go on and on, but the point is: Apple is still earning the fruits of their success from the past, but it won’t last forever. There is nothing innovative anymore, just minor upgrades at premium prices. Correct me if I’m wrong, but to me, Apple is going down, in all it’s shiny glory. Money won’t rescue them.


Even if Steve was at the helm driving this ship today logically speaking they would be facing similar issues long term.
 
But Samsung sell far more phones at lower costs.
Apple sell very few products at far higher costs than its competitors.
So the margin they make in percentage terms brings in more money per unit sold on average than other manufacturers.

Samsung sells a lot more cheap low-feature smartphones. My wife's Galaxy S3 at $80 is a great example. Apple has no interest in that market.

Apple's margin's (GPM) are around 38%, within industry norms, and less than Samsung's. You might want to understand what GPM and COGS mean.
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Thats what I am saying??? The products got them there, numbers don't mean **** if you don't keep on investing and sinking money into your product line, or creating the next product line.

And that's exactly what Apple has been doing.
 
Who is making you upgrade every 2 years? Is Apple holding a gun to your head? As iOS 12 proves, Apple is more than happy to support their iPhones 5 or more years. Sure, you may need battery replacements here and there in between but Apple will gladly support you.

When did I say anyone was making me? My entire point was based around the fact that I was choosing to upgrade every two years. With Apple's decision of $1000 flagships ($1150 to get decent storage), I'll be choosing to extend that upgrade timeline, netting Apple less money overall. I'm also fully aware of Apple's great support for older hardware, having had iPhones since 2009 and Macs since 2007. Just another reason not to pay these crazy prices every two years.
 
"Cook was questioned about the health of the smartphone market and the impact the company's choice to offer low-cost battery replacements might have on replacement cycles"

Only in the stock market and Republican circles is this seen as a bad thing. "Oh no! Apple decided to help people replace their batteries instead of forcing them to buy a whole new phone! What will happen to their PROFITS!!??!?!?! MY STOCK PRICE!!!"
 
Samsung sells a lot more cheap low-feature smartphones. My wife's Galaxy S3 at $80 is a great example. Apple has no interest in that market.

Apple's margin's (GPM) are around 38%, within industry norms, and less than Samsung's. You might want to understand what GPM and COGS mean.
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And that's exactly what Apple has been doing.

That's debatable. They have scrapped the MacOS development team and just merged them all together. The iPhones line is just a rehash of the previous one. The iPhone X is the first redesign since 2014 and it certainly hasn't been a massive success. Nothing like the iPhone 4, 5 or 6 when they were released.
 
That's debatable. They have scrapped the MacOS development team and just merged them all together. The iPhones line is just a rehash of the previous one. The iPhone X is the first redesign since 2014 and it certainly hasn't been a massive success. Nothing like the iPhone 4, 5 or 6 when they were released.

Debatable indeed, with Apple selling close to 200 million iPhones to many repeat customers with open wallets willing to pay a premium price for an outstanding phone. Year after year after year.
 
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During today's earnings call covering the third fiscal quarter of 2018, Apple CEO Tim Cook was questioned about the health of the smartphone market and the impact the company's choice to offer low-cost battery replacements might have on replacement cycles.

In response, Cook said that he believes the smartphone market is "very healthy. "It's the best market to be in for someone in the business that we're in," said Cook. "Whether it grows one percent or two percent or five percent or six percent or 10 percent or shrinks one or two percent, it's a great market because it's just huge."

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iPhone revenue, Cook pointed out, was up 20 percent during the quarter compared to the third quarter of 2017, and Apple has seen mid-single digit growth averages on a weekly sales basis and double-digit growth on an ASP basis. Apple sold a total of 41.3 million iPhones during the quarter, bringing in revenue of nearly $30 billion. The iPhone X continued to be the most popular iPhone during the quarter.

Cook said that he does believe replacement cycles are lengthening, and he says the "major catalyst" for that has been the fact that subsidized plans have become a much smaller percentage of total sales around the world. Apple's goal is to make great products to encourage customers to purchase new devices.In a separate response given to a question about Apple's focus on the home, Cook shared additional comments about the importance of smartphones. "The smartphone has become the repository that goes across the whole of your life, not something meant for a portion of it," he said. He went on to explain that Apple is focused on a number of areas with its product lineup -- home, work, the time between, health, and more. "We're focused on all of those things."

In terms of the battery replacement program that has seen Apple offering $29 iPhone battery replacements since the beginning of the year, Cook reiterated a statement he made back in February during an earlier earnings call. Apple, he said, has never done an internal analysis on how many people bought a battery compared to purchasing a new phone because it wasn't a factor in the decision.

"It was never about that for us," said Cook. "It was about doing something great for the user. Treat users and customers well and you have a good business over time. That's how we look at that."

Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'The Smartphone Market is Very Healthy'
I have no Confidence in Tim Cook. The results speak for themselves! For those of you clinging to the apple of old, I get it! I understand too. However, it's time to Fire Tim Cook!!! Bring on a CEO with vision and unification!
3 Simple Premisese:
First Better unify all the software that apple has so that it integrates better with their hardware, i.e. apple mail... (Out firkkin dated.) Apple TV integration to home pod! Softare to hardware must be seamless. Also, offer the wireless speaker function of airplay to other vendors if your not going to innovate with it.
Second: Acquire software that will allow the iOS to grow. The acquisition of BEATS was a waste of money. Use the Billions to acquire companies that can leverage apple TV, iOS, and OS X!
Third: It's pretty obvious that departments at Apple are not talking or communicating well. Their most recent laptop shows it! Way over priced for glued and permanently fixed in RAM!!??? Improve the Engineering communication. innovate new ways or copy old ways such as the O.K.r system that is used at Google to drive the company's goals!

Finally, get off the soap box of political correctness and social media correctness and do some work! Produce! If you can't do it then move aside so that someone else can. I already watched John Scully ruin apple once. I don't want to watch another Bad CEO do it again. When Apple tumbles, which it will in stock price, remember I have continued to ring the warning bell that Tim Cook needs to go!
 
Smartphones need to die. How is it everyone and their mother has one? All these things have done is make people more lazy and stupid by and enabled so many car accidents.

Dafunk?!

iPhone:
- Has helped me be able to read in crowded public transit every day: eBooks, Tech Documentation for work, learning more about financial investing vehicles, news that matters to me or my interests (Flipboard).
- Thus far has helped me become 10% bilingual and soon fully bilingual speaking Spanish (English is my native language).
- Allowed me to connect to MS Active Directory remotely to receive an email about a user account that expired while out dancing my ass off at a club with friends. Me getting the necessary approval via email (after an emergency phone call), and I've enabled the AD account, extended the expiry date, added back group permissions ... which all saved the company mine site downtime which would've cost about 60 million over a weekend with absolutely no productivity due to several loaders that needed to be purchased via AFE approval chain based on this project management contractor having an enabled account.
- takes notes in a corporate meeting discretely.
- save Video Conference IP/SIP addresses for connections while in the room (laptop on a lower floor of the office).

But as you say it's making people MORE lazy and stupid, etc. Maybe you should only speak to your cause and affect with the iPhone first?
 
Samsung sells a lot more cheap low-feature smartphones. My wife's Galaxy S3 at $80 is a great example. Apple has no interest in that market.

Apple's margin's (GPM) are around 38%, within industry norms, and less than Samsung's. You might want to understand what GPM and COGS mean.
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And that's exactly what Apple has been doing.

Ok, I will clarify.
If apple have 12% of the market and samsung 20% in terms of unit sales and they both have the same
margins then who is making more money?

The one with the higher average selling price, which is apple.
 
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