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I’ve some serious questions to ask:

How come Apple neglected so many areas and let competitors eat Apple’s lunch?

Why did Apple make so little progress in their computer hardware?

How come Apple charges the same amount of money for 4+ years old design?

Some people feel trapped into Apple’s ecosystem, what does he think of that?

How come Siri was first and ended last?

What is compelling about Apple TV when all smart tv’s sold today offer more included?

How come Apple does one transit of a city a month and google does a whole country in the same timeframe?

I can go on and on... and I really wish I could ask those questions because no one does it in an interview :mad:
Do you ever ask how Apple is eating Samsung's lunch in mobile? Best mobile silicon, 90% of the profits in the smartphone industry, #1 Watch, $20B profit in 90days, $88B in revenue in 90 days...both up 13% y/y?
 
Agree 100%
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And they could have made a faster/better/cheaper iPod back in 2006 when Apple were iPod kings of the world. Apple hasn’t released a new product of relevance since 2010.
Of course that is your opinion, however going along those lines of thinking that would be due in part to Steve Jobs.
 
He should milk away. Stock is up, record breaking quarter, etc. new products that are selling well, according to Apple and the analysts.

Well that’s the problem, isn’t it? Some of us remember not too long ago it was about innovation. Now it’s about money. I can’t wait til the Tim Cook era is over. Half ass updates, trickling out technology behind everyone else and charging a fortune for it. The lamest collection of half ass products in Apples history have been under Tim Cooks leadership. Seriously.,, what have they done since Jobs died? Nothing. Same old ****, different wrapper.
 
Well that’s the problem, isn’t it? Some of us remember not too long ago it was about innovation. Now it’s about money. I can’t wait til the Tim Cook era is over. Half ass updates, trickling out technology behind everyone else and charging a fortune for it. The lamest collection of half ass products in Apples history have been under Tim Cooks leadership. Seriously.,, what have they done since Jobs died? Nothing. Same old ****, different wrapper.
The "money" is the sign of what apple is doing. It's the end product of producing products and services your customers want, not the goal in and of itself. The market is determining Apple's worth. And to paraphrase: "one person's innovation is another persons meh, and one person's meh is another person's innovation".
 
I don't think his post was "frivolous", as Apple has been advertising emojis extremely hard lately. This seems to be the direction Apple is going lately.
Whining about emoji on unrelated topics is quickly getting as tired as “Apple is doomed,” Safari being snappier, etc. and will soon—if it hasn’t already—meet a fate similar to those types of posts.

Hopefully, of course.

ETA: Watch bands, too.
 
Because it's on MiSinformationNBC, Tim Cook will be goaded into slamming President Trump in socio-politically correct fashion even though Apple has made millions if not a billion dollars just off of the US Tax Reform bill. Mark it on a calendar now.
I think it’s hilarious that there are people saying Apple hasn’t innovated since Steve Jobs does. They’re clearly not paying attention.

Yep, they're clearly not paying attention. That's why iPhone X & iPhone 8 sales were below expectations.
Although in Tim Cook's brilliant mind, that was only because there were not enough device colors and animojis. :D
 
Because it's on MiSinformationNBC, Tim Cook will be goaded into slamming President Trump in socio-politically correct fashion even though Apple has made millions if not a billion dollars just off of the US Tax Reform bill. Mark it on a calendar now.


Yep, they're clearly not paying attention. That's why iPhone X & iPhone 8 sales were below expectations.
Although in Tim Cook's brilliant mind, that was only because there were not enough device colors and animojis. :D

What does missing expectations have to do with innovation?
 
Do you ever ask how Apple is eating Samsung's lunch in mobile? Best mobile silicon, 90% of the profits in the smartphone industry, #1 Watch, $20B profit in 90days, $88B in revenue in 90 days...both up 13% y/y?
Does Apple? Last time I checked I saw Samsung making profits in the range of Apple. But as I’m not a shareholder and care less about profits. You should consider that Samsung and even the Chinese brands are pouring more money into R&D and it’s beginning to show. For a company the size of Apple there is very little progress that they make.

People laugh about Bixby but sooner than later Samsung is able to connect the dots. Their tv, refrigerator, washing machines, phones, wearables, are able to communicate with each other in a way Apple can’t provide.

As long as Apple keeps focusing on pleasing shareholders (short term) and less on building the stones for the future I’ll keep reminding them.

They could focus more on services now. But in my opinion you chose a service out of free will because it’s the best choice. Apple is trying to trap you. It’s only short time working.

If Apple really cared about customers, they should’ve made most of their products in the buyers guide a BUY NOW. Even Dell has surpassed apple’s latest offerings.

Tim Cook is now introducing products that are more than a year away (MacPro and even the HomePod was talked about spring 2017???)

I understand when companies get more matured they can’t constantly wow you. But Apple is surely under delivering these days. Maybe they put all their efforts, engineers and programmers in some secret project like Titan... if not I there is definitely something very wrong at this once beloved company.
 
Does Apple? Last time I checked I saw Samsung making profits in the range of Apple. But as I’m not a shareholder and care less about profits. You should consider that Samsung and even the Chinese brands are pouring more money into R&D and it’s beginning to show. For a company the size of Apple there is very little progress that they make.

People laugh about Bixby but sooner than later Samsung is able to connect the dots. Their tv, refrigerator, washing machines, phones, wearables, are able to communicate with each other in a way Apple can’t provide.

As long as Apple keeps focusing on pleasing shareholders (short term) and less on building the stones for the future I’ll keep reminding them.

They could focus more on services now. But in my opinion you chose a service out of free will because it’s the best choice. Apple is trying to trap you. It’s only short time working.

If Apple really cared about customers, they should’ve made most of their products in the buyers guide a BUY NOW. Even Dell has surpassed apple’s latest offerings.

Tim Cook is now introducing products that are more than a year away (MacPro and even the HomePod was talked about spring 2017???)

I understand when companies get more matured they can’t constantly wow you. But Apple is surely under delivering these days. Maybe they put all their efforts, engineers and programmers in some secret project like Titan... if not I there is definitely something very wrong at this once beloved company.
The entirety of Samsung includes washing machines, not a compatible business model. Poster did say mobile. As far as this connected home, I don’t want it, not even from Apple, but I do agree there probably will be HomeKit in non-Samsung appliances way down the line.
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Because it's on MiSinformationNBC, Tim Cook will be goaded into slamming President Trump in socio-politically correct fashion even though Apple has made millions if not a billion dollars just off of the US Tax Reform bill. Mark it on a calendar now.


Yep, they're clearly not paying attention. That's why iPhone X & iPhone 8 sales were below expectations.
Although in Tim Cook's brilliant mind, that was only because there were not enough device colors and animojis. :D
Although you don’t know what their expectations were or the exact sales either.
 
How come Apple neglected so many areas and let competitors eat Apple’s lunch?
''he wont answer a question like that because it showcases that he's a better supply leader and accountant than actual CEO.

the problem is, the company is way too big with too many products, too many competitors for one team of 4/5 people to fundmentally steer every aspect of the company.

It worked under Steve Jobs because of the smaller size, and much smaller product lineup. But now, we see obvious evidence that when the cabal leadership focuses on one item, everything else sits unmoving until they're done focusing on the new shiny. They only seem to be able to give attention for one product category at the time.

we saw with the Watch, when they focused on it, that their computer lineup suffered and went untouched. THen when they pivoted back to the computers, the iPhone seemed to languish a bit (5 years with identical functional design?). then with the X everything else seems to have also slowed down and stopped.

Apple and Tim Cook needs to realize that they're nearly a trillion dollar company now and you need to start delegating and trusting your departments to run themselves. I think the fact that there is so much emphasis now on Apples business success that it points very pointedly that for Cook, the dollars and sense of the operation are his only real strength. EG, profit margins are considered a cost factor during the design of their products, vs building the absolute best product, and then pricing it accordingly. But this makes sense from Tim Cook since his value is directly proportionate to the value of Apple as the bulk of his renumeration comes from stock value and not performance.
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He only pretends. Apple actually seems very politics-neutral, especially compared to some of the other big tech companies like Google.

Apple only does political expedient moves when there is a revenue positive view to it or when there's attention shone on their negative business practices.

Their green initiatives are AMAZING. I don't want them to stop, but they only really came about when Apple was blasted for it's poor efforts.

their humanitarian work efforts again, only came about after series of exposes showcased how bad they were.

their security comments again, only come about when it matters. the rest of the time, they're pretty average. (and lately with their software bugs getting worse)

I honestly don't think Apple political cares one way or another as long as it's revenue positive. They would absolutely try to use slave labour, poluting the planet, paying off politicians etc, if they could get away with it.
 
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Considering Apple’s growth exponentially since Cooks leadership in 2011 and onward that Apple has taken since Job’s passing with the company‘s value and expansion of products/services, what you’re posting is absolutely false.
You cannot reason with anti-Cook people. It does not work. They live in fearful bubbles where race, sexuality, and progress scares them.... every Tim Cook thread on this board always has the anti-progress crowd out in force. It takes so much energy to be bigoted..... it’s easier to not be.
 
You cannot reason with anti-Cook people. It does not work. They live in fearful bubbles where race, sexuality, and progress scares them.... every Tim Cook thread on this board always has the anti-progress crowd out in force. It takes so much energy to be bigoted..... it’s easier to not be.

I don't know about that. I'm pretty damn critical of his performance as CEO, and I'm absolutely a Progressive Liberal.

I can support and encourage social responsibility and progress, while at the same time think he's riding the coat-tails of those who came before him.

If we want to say that Apple's profitability shows he's a great leader, I point you at Steve Ballmer. Who saw Microsoft's profits skyrocket under him, but NOBODY would tell you he was actually a good leader of microsoft. He was a bean counter, no different than Cook, who inheretted a juggernaught that already had a marked upwards trend.
 
Does Apple? Last time I checked I saw Samsung making profits in the range of Apple. But as I’m not a shareholder and care less about profits. You should consider that Samsung and even the Chinese brands are pouring more money into R&D and it’s beginning to show. For a company the size of Apple there is very little progress that they make.

People laugh about Bixby but sooner than later Samsung is able to connect the dots. Their tv, refrigerator, washing machines, phones, wearables, are able to communicate with each other in a way Apple can’t provide.

As long as Apple keeps focusing on pleasing shareholders (short term) and less on building the stones for the future I’ll keep reminding them.

They could focus more on services now. But in my opinion you chose a service out of free will because it’s the best choice. Apple is trying to trap you. It’s only short time working.

If Apple really cared about customers, they should’ve made most of their products in the buyers guide a BUY NOW. Even Dell has surpassed apple’s latest offerings.

Tim Cook is now introducing products that are more than a year away (MacPro and even the HomePod was talked about spring 2017???)

I understand when companies get more matured they can’t constantly wow you. But Apple is surely under delivering these days. Maybe they put all their efforts, engineers and programmers in some secret project like Titan... if not I there is definitely something very wrong at this once beloved company.
You think Samsung’s profits are from selling Galaxies? They make most of their money from selling components to other company’s like Apple. They also sell dishwashers, appliances, RAM, and military equipment.

Yes, Apple destroys Samsung in the mobile space.

What you think about the company is irrelevant. You’re just speculating because the numbers say Apple has never sold more or been more successful than right now. Since they are a consumer products company, you can see the problems more easily but every company has problems. As a consumer, you will tend to overestimate how much a problem will impact a massive company.

I’m not sure a consumer appliances strategy has a lot of legs, so I don’t really worry about Apple not making refrigerators and dryers that talk to their phones. They could easily implement these features in other ways with other manufacturers like they do with CarPlay in cars.

Apple does their duty as a public company, but they certainly don’t play to wallstreet. Amazon and Tesla do that. Apple has long term plans which is why they ditch the headphone jack and TouchID. Apple knows where they are headed with wireless, AR, and 3D facial mapping. FaceID for example was never about authenticating your phone in a different way. It’s about the technology and its future potential.

Apple owns the high end market and is now going after the mid tier market with lower cost iPhone SE, MacBook and iPad. They want to get a critical mass of customers incremental to the 1.3B active devices.

There are a couple hundred people at Apple working on Titan, hardly distracting their resources.
 
This should be a good watch. Since TC took over I’ve found myself inadvertently buying more Apple products..... I own more Apple computers than I know what to do with now LOL. Watches, iPods, I never thought I’d subscribe to a music streaming service but here I am with an Apple Music sub. I buy their 2tb data plan. I pay extra on my phone bill to get my series 3 watch on cellular. Bluetooth keyboards.... Apple Pencil.... two sizes of iPad Pro. Lol! It’s all quite good.... Plus I do like how Tim echoes the progressive thoughts of the rest of the young and educated world. I understand people will hate that. There will be people that always hate gay people after all. Even in advanced countries you still get individuals that hate women, hate gay people, hate trans.

The fact such people like Apple must really irritate them. And you can see that here with the burning hatred from some. But it’s their poison and they’re drinking it.
 
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I don't know about that. I'm pretty damn critical of his performance as CEO, and I'm absolutely a Progressive Liberal.

I can support and encourage social responsibility and progress, while at the same time think he's riding the coat-tails of those who came before him.

If we want to say that Apple's profitability shows he's a great leader, I point you at Steve Ballmer. Who saw Microsoft's profits skyrocket under him, but NOBODY would tell you he was actually a good leader of microsoft. He was a bean counter, no different than Cook, who inheretted a juggernaught that already had a marked upwards trend.
You’re devaluing cook. Cook is NOT Ballmer, far from it. Cook is a genius in his own right and was always viewed as one of the brains at Apple who killed it behind he scenes. He’s grown into his role as CEO, who Jobs handpicked to run the company. Jobs respected and trusted Cook.

Let’s not act like Cook has done nothing. Just a few examples. He’s grown iPhone to over 3X the shipments under jobs, quietly led efforts for the best mobile silicon in the industry, developed the #1 watch in the world, the number #1 wearables market, 230M paid subscribers to various services, and 38M Music subscribers.

He’s led the stock to record valuation in a fiercely competitive market.

Yes, Cook inherited a great company, but HE himself made it great because he was there and continues to make it greater as CEO. It is not easy to stay on top and he’s done that very well with loads more competition.

Apple is eating Samsung’s lunch and still leading the industry. Look no further than FaceID, wireless, Watch, and yes, Animoji. Notice how Samsung is “innovating?” Lol...
 
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I don't know about that. I'm pretty damn critical of his performance as CEO, and I'm absolutely a Progressive Liberal.

I can support and encourage social responsibility and progress, while at the same time think he's riding the coat-tails of those who came before him.

If we want to say that Apple's profitability shows he's a great leader, I point you at Steve Ballmer. Who saw Microsoft's profits skyrocket under him, but NOBODY would tell you he was actually a good leader of microsoft. He was a bean counter, no different than Cook, who inheretted a juggernaught that already had a marked upwards trend.
Seems to me being a "Steve Ballmer" is a good thing. Microsoft is no worse from it, apart from the failed cell phone attempts. Apple will be no worse for it either. It doesn't really matter what one labels Tim Cook as, the reality is he's CEO and will stay until a major catastrophy or he leaves of his own volition.
 
Seems to me being a "Steve Ballmer" is a good thing. Microsoft is no worse from it, apart from the failed cell phone attempts. Apple will be no worse for it either. It doesn't really matter what one labels Tim Cook as, the reality is he's CEO and will stay until a major catastrophy or he leaves of his own volition.
Ballme is given a bad wrap. He did a lot of good things that set MSFT up for what it is today, just like the Cook detractors argue Jobs did for Cook.

The market has just changed the way they value Microsoft. Granted, that’s partially due to a change in vision with Nadella.

When Apple changes the Street’s perception that they are not just a hardware company, watch out. It’s already happening. Well, it was until Trump started talking trade.
 
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