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Apple CEO Tim Cook to Deliver Commencement Address at Gallaudet University
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Hardly. The lesson that you should learn: don't make claims about what "most [graduating students]" think about some presenter unless you can back them up. You seem to have some personal act to grind against TC; don't project your opinion onto a group of people you have never talked (or signed) with.
THEN DON'T MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY BACK UP. Jeepers. This is Captain Obvious stuff. I'm hardly the only one who noted your bad behavior in this discussion. It serves no purpose to make claims that you can't possibly support. Facts (and the lack of facts) are stubborn things. I don't now how to say it any more plainly than that.
Note: the lack of time isn't your problem. There is no evidence anywhere that most of that audience for this presentation agree with you.
It's a fact that your opinion is unsupported. Your "most people" claim has no support. I'm hardly the only commenter to note the absurdity of your opinion.
You said several comments ago, "so that’s [your] cue to bow out". I agree. Thanks for the discussion.
A few jerks in here but I would wager that the parents and guests of these graduates would be more excited to hear Tim Cook than the students themselves. After shelling out so much money for a higher education only to face a job market that no one seems to want right now, I think parents feel they are finally getting something of value for all of their money
That butterfly keyboard must suck, your shift key got temporary stuck. 🙃
Yup, telling fairy tales, offering privacy cookies.
Always in the shadow... Must be hard until one realizes Tim is a billionaire given Steve's handoff. I had the need to find a set of aspirational words for a survey project. Remembered Jobs address to Stanford. Thought it was so, so great. Took the transcription, parsed it, presented it, and survey results suggest it was otherworldly. Tim may meet or exceed Steve, but I do not think he will. He aspires to PR-level inspiration for shareholders. Steve spoke of true inspiration IMHO. Sort of how they run Apple: Steve = do what is great and F*** the shareholders. Tim = Maximize SHV. One cannot argue against the Trillions Tim has delivered, but pretty sure it was Steve's "IDGAF give me greatness..." belief that laid the foundation for Tim's value add. Will be interesting to compare the two addresses. Might be I am underestimating Tim.
@doggfather thought he could speak for "most" of the graduating class at Gallaudet University. Absurd. He then claimed the problem was flying to the University -- but he was still dead certain that most of them would be unhappy with TC as a speaker at their graduation. All my butterfly keyboards have been grounded; I thought it was worth using a few all-caps words to help him understand the absurdity of his conjecture. Did it work? I can't tell. ?
Something tells me that it won't be as inspiring and memorable as the famous Steve Jobs one. Visionary vs good businessman.
Maybe, maybe not. But it sure does make him worth listening to. We would be so lucky to have more leaders like him.
The OP has a point.
Whether you like him or not, and this goes for anybody - not just TC, your accomplishments don’t make you a good, entertaining, or informative speaker.
It’s quite possible that even those students that want to hear him speak will leave the venue wishing that an alternative choice was made.
Quite frankly it’s even possible that the original requester come away with a negative impression after the speech.
No maybe about it.
What do you mean by half a repair?
Also, recycling can have as much to do with the state as it does the individual.
In the UK there are examples of councils telling people to segregate waste and then still throwing all of it into the same hole in the ground.
I disagree with the point the OP makes. It's true in the most general sense that being successful won't automatically make you a good speaker. But then again, being successful just might make you a good speaker, so there is that.
OP is projecting their bias onto the students, which I don't agree with.
And sure we can construct any number of strawman regarding the speech, but none of those are the point. If one dislikes Tim Cook, then one's biased opinion will be the original requestor will be dissatisfied as well as the student body. But I highly doubt it, with a string of high-profile universities under his belt, there was a reason he is requested.
And some MR posters don't get that.
Maybe. But I look at it a little more broadly.
One of things someone like Tim Cook will bring, regardless of how good his speech is or isn’t is status and kudos to the student and uni.
Plenty of celebs do/say crappy things yet still keep getting asked to return.
Quite often Joe Average is bedazzled before he or she even gets to actually experience said celeb.
So whilst the speech might turn out to be great, the fact is that the OP is right. Being TC doesn’t mean you’ll be received or perform well.
The general inference is that he’ll steal the show
If the opposite were true I’d also agree that being an awful celeb doesn’t guarantee a terrible performance even if it’s expected.
The statement "Being TC doesn't guarantee a good speech will be given" is a strawman. Of course, things could go south, but TC has several high profile universities under his belt, and with that, Gallaudet is taking a measured risk his speech will be well received. But you are correct, in suggestion past performance doesn't guarantee future performance. And narrowly focusing on that as a talking point, rather than the several successful speeches TC made is folly.
Nothing in life is guaranteed, but the smart money says TC will give a successful speech.
Spot-on and well said. A graduating student made the request. End of story. Why anyone here gives two trucks, unless they're a graduating Gallaudet student, is beyond me.
Many people here reflexively get a major case of shakes whenever Tim Cook's name gets mentioned and resort to high school level juvenile antics and retorts. Whether it's how he appears, how he talks, his age, his mannerisms, his pro environment stance, how he chooses to live his life, or his and Apple's massive success - are aspects that others resent.
And that's what this thread is really about. Tearing down someone who is successful and accomplished. That drives people who are not and thus unhappy, to lash out, so they can feel good about themselves.
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Imagine scrutinizing past TC commencement address transcripts to see what has happened in the past before making ludicrous comments.
Stanford 2019. MIT 2017. Duke 2018. Auburn 2010.
Did anyone do any research and see that Gallaudet is a deaf university? Deaf people have it hard enough in the world and graduating college is a huge step up. Having Tim Cook speak would be inspirational to all the deaf students there. If anything, it spreads awareness that a university like this exists and helps the deaf community in more ways than him just being the commencement speaker.
Also, Apple just released a movie CODA which features a deaf family and highlights the struggles deaf families go through. So the timing is more than coincidental.
I have two deaf uncles that graduated from Gallaudet. My mom and dad are deaf.
Also, Apple just released a movie CODA which features a deaf family and highlights the struggles deaf families go through. So the timing is more than coincidental.
I have two deaf uncles that graduated from Gallaudet. My mom and dad are deaf.
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