They'll just make up more excuses if it doesn't.The only way to combat climate change is to be in this deal? Is that what you are suggesting?
What if we buy into this deal and the climate does not drop a 1/2 degree?
They'll just make up more excuses if it doesn't.The only way to combat climate change is to be in this deal? Is that what you are suggesting?
What if we buy into this deal and the climate does not drop a 1/2 degree?
It just needs more funding! We're already so invested.They'll just make up more excuses if it doesn't.
Boo Hoo, You can always go to a more fiscally responsible nation if it offends you so much.
You might ask the wealthy to pay back all the money they stole from Payroll Taxes before you go, that's a fair chunk of your debt.
Just give me back my share of the pointless Iraq War(s) and Wall Street bailout, and I'll be happy.
In 100 years. 100. Trillions. One hundred years.Yeahhhhhh, you should really read smart things...
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2458/why-a-half-degree-temperature-rise-is-a-big-deal/
Also, Everyone flipped out after we withdrew from Kyoto, but we were the 1st industrialized country 2 meet reduction goals anyways. America does right because our society demands it and we expect it from ourselves.Yeahhhhhh, you should really read smart things...
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2458/why-a-half-degree-temperature-rise-is-a-big-deal/
These comments are terrifying. I can't believe how infested this country is with idiot right wingers...
These comments are terrifying. I can't believe how infested this country is with idiot right wingers...
Yes, and how do we know all this? Because of the work of climate scientists. So why would you believe them if they tell you the climate has been changing for millions of years. But not when they tell you we are putting dangerous amounts of greenhouses gases in the atmosphere, and running the risk of derailing the climate?
Denying climate change is the equivalent of going to the doctor, who tells you he discovered metastatic cancer, but you're response is: "what the heck, that's impossible, I'm still breathing!" and refuse all treatment. You may well be alive in 3-6 months, but you won't be in 3-6 years.
Doctors can't predict the future, and neither can climate scientists. But they can make pretty accurate assumptions based on solid scientific data we shouldn't ignore.
Like itI'd be scared too if my communist fever dream was collapsing right in front of me.
I feel the same way about do nothing hippy leftist slobs.These comments are terrifying. I can't believe how infested this country is with idiot right wingers...
It's over-exaggerated by the media and consumed by average people who don't really do any critical thinking. So to be honest, no, I'm not worried. And everyone who is ought to do a little bit of research.
Boy, you're a regular comedic genius![]()
The Federal Reserve holding so much of our sovereign debt has the effect of lowering our (i.e. the federal government's) borrowing costs.
Your conclusions aren't very scientific either.
Saying how the ”Big Bang” affected the universe is comparable to blowing something up on a tiny scale here on Earth isn't really a good comparison.
I like how religions find something, like the universe, so improbable to have happened on its own, that they invent a "Boogey-Man" with magical powers, and no plausible explanation for existence, to have created it instead.
*hint: what is generally referred to as "Big Bang" isn't in fact an "explosion"...
The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model for the universe from the earliest known periods through its subsequent large-scale evolution.
Detailed measurements of the expansion rate of the universe place this moment at approximately 13.8 billion years ago, which is thus considered the age of the universe.
After the initial expansion, the universe cooled sufficiently to allow the formation of subatomic particles, and later simple atoms.
2008 was a worldwide financial meltdown. No hyperbole needed..World wide financial meltdown? Holy hyperbole Bauman!!!
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I challenge this concept and say it's unproven garbage made up to justify a mechanical cosmological model that by design excludes both God and importantly also consciousness. Just like the other main garbage "scientific" model people religiously worship, Darwinian evolution of course.
Now, this _model_ is a concept that you will have to _believe_ in since it cannot be proven which makes "science" a religion. You need to believe what the priests (the scientists) say and if you don't you are a heretic and deserve to be tarred, feathered and put to public shame.
I argue, you follow science religiously, it's a belief system based on the notion that God and consciousness does not exist. All modern "science" rest on this fundamental concept and studies and concepts that challenge this are by default shunned and thrown on the garbage heap. Along with the heretics that dare to propound them.
Finally, cudos to the mods that allow us to have this discussion. I'm sure you are bombared by victimised and angry leftists that want to censor it completely.
Couldn't disagree more.Let's agree that we disagree. However, as a final comment, when words 'economy' and 'climate' are in the same sentence, you know something's not right.
Yeah, those Founding Fathers were pretty wise in setting up those safeguards against dictatorial rule, especially for those dictators we like. The 2/3 Senatorial requirement for treaties show how seriously they took it.Too bad he couldn't have done that with the Republicans having the majority. Because then the current administration could not create so much havoc.
For everyone: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-debate-climate-change-skeptics-klas-skogmar
Especially curios what @hagar think about that article.![]()
The Ozarks is my stomping grounds; the University of Oklahoma is school. And thank you!Get out of here with your quite sound logic and reason! /s
What school are you going to? I might not live far from you. I'm also a weather geek and have considered getting a second degree in meteorology. You seem well spoken for a student, but if you're like me, you were probably reading college textbooks on cyclogenesis in middle school and trying to figure out how to connect your home weather station to Weather Underground's network and, while at university, thought you were nearly going to die in the RFD of a rain wrapped tornado during a chase gone wrong in the ozarks. Ok, that last one is very specific so probably not, lol.
Being caused by man is very debatable. Interestingly, because we don't feel that intense heat of the fireballs that are forming as a result of Global Warming, they changed the name to Climate Change because we don't feel the created and perceived warmth we were supposed to feel from Global Warming come as drastically as Al Gore said it was going to be by this time. I don't deny that man has had some effect on the globe, but I also believe nature takes it course and cycles.
What I don't understand is the mindset that the best way to do this is to continue the stifling regulations over here that make manufacturing at reasonable costs impossible, so we ship it overseas and continue having China do it unregulated while growing their economy and indirectly support them ruining our planet?
I think the other problem is the reporting these days gets delivered in extreme black and white versions. Trump is lifting some regulations, this gets reported as Trump has removed ALL regulations and we are back to dumping toxic sludge in the water and releasing all filters off the smokestacks and pushing toxins in the air. He puts an immigration ban on a few Countries, and this gets reported as all muslims throughout the world are no longer welcome. And because this is "legitimate news", this gets received as it must be true. Trump goes on his first international trip, he makes some great speeches. He meets the pope, what do we take out of this meeting? The photo of the moment Trump was smiling and the Pope was not. He goes to the NATO HQ and calls all countries out, this made him an oafish boar. Rules and expenses only seem to apply to us. And what did we get out of all these meetings? Trump chose not to listen to the Italian President in headphones as everyone was using.....he was listening on an earpiece.
Tell a lie often enough and the people will believe it.
Your use of "climate change" with the word "daily" is a tell that you don't know the science and, probably, don't even how science works. Your opinion isn't a "side" because you're ignorant of the science. It's just a gut-check opinion and the science doesn't give a crap what you think. Or me either. Personally I don't care for pollution but if the evidence was that humans aren't impacting climate in dangerous ways, I'd be right there with you. But it isn't. Full stop. Everyone knows that you and your ilk not only don't know the science but also aren't interested.
The difference is that we go where the preponderance of evidence leads. You go where your gut wants it to lead, just like geocentrists, flat earthers, and people who believed you could cure fever by bleeding. Science answered those questions too, just as deniers hated it at the time, just as it's in the process of answering this one. The entrenched defensiveness of the doggedly unenlightened is all so familiar. It takes maturity to leave science to the scientists, especially when you don't care for the conclusions.
Science is just as happy being wrong as right, because there is no wrong and right. There's only fact, faithfully gathered and statistically scrutinized, that supports or doesn't support a hypothesis which must then get repeatedly tested to see if it holds up.
Land doesn't vote, except in the Senate.Trump won a majority of that states, and the vast majority of counties. It doesn't matter how many more people voted for Hillary. There is no such thing as a popular election for President in this country.
Jesus.Keep repeating your side, as if climate change doesn't happen daily. Oh wait...it does.
You're right that statistical treatments can be misused or abused. Gotta be careful about that and maintain a critical eye when evaluating conclusions.Haha, you are so funny: There's only fact, faithfully gathered and statistically scrutinized. As a "scientist", you should be well aware that statistic do not prove anything, they only show correlation. The British have this saying: "lies, big lies and statistics". "Scientific" is no substitute for "The True", it merely indicate that certain research procedures have been followed, that's all.
We don't know, and people far above our pay grade will always be trying to find out. Until then, they're not going to listen to what a book says happened without evidence.Since I'm a simpleton, please explain to me where the singularity that expanded and _created_ the universe came from? Why did to start to expand? And how come it created a phenomenon (our universe) that is characterised by total order and harmony from the micro to the macro level.
It was a choice between bad and worse. Some chose bad, and the others chose worse. As a matter of who won, heck, they both did. She got more popular votes, and he got more electoral ones.It's a nice summary of a much more complicated domain, but the essence is correct.
However, in my experience the psychology to convince people about the importance of climate change is wrong. Throwing data and facts on people won't help. If reasoning, logic and facts were important, nobody would have voted for Trump, yet they did.
People know Trump won't get them better healthcare or a better job, they know he will only help out his millionaire friends, they know he doesn't get world politics or science, they know something is deeply wrong with our society, our environment and the climate, but they choose to elect somebody who ignores all of this, to give them peace of mind. They just want to live in the fantasy.
This behaviour is even worse for climate change, because it's a problem nobody can tackle on their own, it's bigger than all of us, and it's scary because of the massive consequences for us and the natural world around us. So people get overwhelmed and look the other way. And by now, people are sick and tired of hearing about the climate.
So, I'm quite pessimistic about this topic.