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Mate 60 offers satellite voice calling and satellite SMS features due to Huawei modem. 5.5G speeds are faster. It’s less expensive than iPhone 15 Pro Max. It’s a legit competitive product.

Well a competitive product where it is sold anyway.

The big point worth considering though is Huawei does not use iOS or Android. It is using HarmonyOS.
 
Well a competitive product where it is sold anyway.

The big point worth considering though is Huawei does not use iOS or Android. It is using HarmonyOS.

Not really a concern since everyone in China uses WeChat. It’s how you pay for literally everything from food, to gas to utilities to reading your child’s report card. Apple has an online store in WeChat.
 
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Not really a concern since everyone in China uses WeChat. It’s how you pay for literally everything from food, to gas to utilities to reading your child’s report card. Apple has an online store in WeChat.

But it might be a concern for anyone outside of China considering a Huawei device.
 
I'm missing the connection between a trip and sales going down. Is it assumed that his "celebrity" will help increase sales? Surely market research could be done by locals better than the CEO coming into a small part of the country too.

Of course not. That's silly.

CEOs of large companies with massive global reach frequently visit other countries to personally and first-hand get a better understanding of important markets.

It's part of their job. Happens all the time.
 
Huawei supporters are regarded as patriots in mainland China. No matter how expensive Mate 60 Pro, it remains the first choice of those "patriots". Videos on Bilibili talking about the negatives or internal details of Mate 60 Pro are removed by the government (this is proved by Geekerwan).

Mate 60 Pro sells for less than $999 and offers 512GB base storage. You don’t have to be a “patriot” to realize it’s a better value.

If you want CPU performance, Apple wins for sure. If you want better cellular performance and satellite voice features, Huawei beats Apple + Qualcomm.
 
Of course this is happening they are taking our technology product and copying it and selling it as their own.
If you actually did a modicum of research of the top Chinese Android phones, you'd see that there are not many similarities to iPhone, and of the reviews I've watched various places, Chinese phones show more innovation than the annual iPhone spec-bump new models. Apple seems to have run out of ideas or it takes them 5 years to "get it right".
 
Good. I’m glad. Maybe it’ll shake apple up with some innovative bored of better cameras and faster chips
 
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Barrons had a headline the other day in Apple News which was “Meta and Amazon blow past Apple and leave it in the dust” something like that and I wrote to the journalist and said “this headline and article looks like it’s written by a preteen, what happened to Barrons? Why this ridiculous faulty sensationalized headline?” and she stated quite honestly “well the Editors tweek the headlines and the articles and those type of headlines get the clicks and pay the bills” I thanked her for her honesty.
I’m glad you said that. Like so many others, I enjoy reading tech articles in general including those about Apple products of course. I notice more and more that article headlines are all about the mystery feature I don’t know about or the secret setting I have to change immediately.

I find myself skipping more and more articles. Why just the other day I skipped so many articles I had time to go outside. The natural light hurt my eyes.
 
Mate 60 Pro sells for less than $999 and offers 512GB base storage. You don’t have to be “patriot” to realize it’s a better value.

It's only a better deal if not being part of Apple's ecosystem isn't a biggie, and you're OK running on HarmonyOS.

I'll pass.
 
I'm missing the connection between a trip and sales going down. Is it assumed that his "celebrity" will help increase sales? Surely market research could be done by locals better than the CEO coming into a small part of the country too.

Probably also meeting with local executives to talk strategy. This was just the public facing part which, yes, was trying to use his celebrity to drum up attention for the phone.
 
Yep, because no phone can take better pictures than iPhone...
I didn't say that. Having social media "flooded" (MR words) with comments about the "poor quality" of the iPhone 15 images is not objective. There is no way Apple was sharing "poor quality" images (someone else linked the image in this thread -- it wasn't "poor quality", even if there were some compression issues [which could have been a Weibo issue]). This means much of the comments are from state-sponsored bot accounts and/or nationalists who don't like "Western" companies and/or people/bots who don't like Apple or whatever else is driving their behavior. I'm not sure what's controversial about acknowledging that? Just look at MacRumors. There are plenty of people who sign up for accounts or comment on MR mainly to attack Apple over various things.
 
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The post was then "flooded with complaints" manipulated by spam bots controlled by Chinese government actors about the ostensibly poor quality of the image and unfavorable comparisons to pictures from Chinese devices like Huawei's recently Mate 60 Pro.
 
Heres the photo TC uploaded to Weibo. Its bad, but not because of the 15PM camera, but because of compression/resizing.
Thanks for actually sharing the photo in question. Neither 9to5mac or this website thought to include it.

I think the photo looks fine. I‘ve seen better and worse. Like they say, the best camera is the one you have with you.
 
the accountant that won't bring jobs in mass back to USA. the notion that there is lack of finding workers in USA, I do not buy at all. Too many people are looking for jobs and corporations are continually employing robots and self checkouts using the false excuse of not finding workers. Yes, workers should be paid living wages at least. But the accountant does not believe that as he is beholden to more $ for the overlords for which he is part of.
 
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If you actually did a modicum of research of the top Chinese Android phones, you'd see that there are not many similarities to iPhone, and of the reviews I've watched various places, Chinese phones show more innovation than the annual iPhone spec-bump new models. Apple seems to have run out of ideas or it takes them 5 years to "get it right".
As a Chinese person myself, their tactic is to make a new camera geometric design
For Huawei mate series, it have 4 lenses in mate 40,50 and 60. What they did is to rearrange the 4 lenses and add some black decorative strips and change a little each time. others do the same, they put the lenses into triangles, rectangles, 4 in a row…… Chinese people liked these
Chinese people say that Apple does not innovate because they think the camera arrangement look similar in iPhone 13 14 15 (standard diagonal/ Pro 3 in a squrare)

But I have to admit that Chinese phones have much better spec bumps every year, but these spec bumps are mostly useless. (Now they have 24G ram, but the badly utilized and designed apps like WeChat devour them quickly)
 
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