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Interesting. I just checked and it was possible to for me, mid-day, to reserve both a 14 Pro and a 14 Pro Max for in-store pickup. It's not even the end of the month.
 
I thought iphone 14 sales were down, and the Apple CFO is saying the same. 🤷‍♂️

People are more interested in the Pro model instead of the non-Pro one.

The downside of having two products with such similar names. Cue media with headlines saying "Poor iPhone 14 sales!" leading people to believe the "iPhone" is failing, when of course it's the opposite. An outsider might reasonably assume a 14 "Pro" is just a type of 14.
 
I am expecting an iPhone Ultra in the next couple of cycles to be the ultimate overkill status symbol phone with a $2k-ish starting price tag, M-series chip and 2TB of storage.
Not for 2k, LOL.... The current regular Pro Max with 1TB almost costs 1600 in the US and it costs 260000 in Japan, which had been roughly equivalent to $2500 for the last 15 years or so.
 
I think it’s quite revealing that the media intelligencia keep writing about how “everyone” wants an SE, a non-pro model, a mini. And yet all those offerings suffer mediocre sales and the core product line of Pro and Pro Max continue to sell like always. Apple needs to spend less time satisfying the media “experts” and more time making the products their customers really want.
The 14 was strategically placed to upsell people to the pro models.
 
On Sept 12th I ordered the 14 PM/1 TB for me and 14 P/512 for my wife. Both were estimated to be here Oct 24th. She got her's in about two weeks. Oct 24th came and went on mine with no status change on AT&T site. Meh... I got over the initial hype and just cancelled my order. Have a 12 PM and can just wait for the next model.
My 14 pro max came about a week after it went on sale. Tried it for three weeks and sent it back. Sent the case back to Amazon, too...

Going back to my 11 pro max, the only real change I noticed was the oleophobic coating on my 11 has worn off a bat and the battery doesn't quite last as long as the 14 pro max. On the plus side, it is easier to hold and reach the notifications than the 14PM and while I will admit that the purple colour was pure fire!!! and the close up camera was super sharp, these two factors were not enough to justify a 60% increase in price over the equivalent 11PM, 256MB model, three years ago.

For what it's worth, iPhone 14pro sales numbers in Japan are down about 30% from the 12PM which was the best selling model and a MIND BLOWING 69% for the 14 base model compared with the 12 base model.

Japan is currently in a major shift away from the iPhone: back in the iPhone 12 days Apple held 55% of the ENTIRE Japanese smartphone market. Will not look so rosy for Apple this year, to be sure.
 
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All by design. Gimp the base model so that people gravitate toward the higher model for more revenue/profit.
14 & 14+ are decent phones, they would have sold better if Apple used A16.
But do people need the power of A16 processor ? probably not, phones are powerful enough already.
 
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That would mean less revenue, given iPhone 14 Plus sells for $899. Unless you believe the mini would outsell the Plus in volume.

Thats the problem right there, the 14 Plus models are not selling very well. At least the Mini model actually offers a unique size in the line up, an actual size option (selling out on Amazon as soon as they get stock), where as the Plus model is is overpriced and over shadowed by the 13 and 14 Pro Max.
 
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Thats the problem right there, the 14 Plus models are not selling very well. At least the Mini model actually offers a unique size in the line up, an actual size option (selling out on Amazon as soon as they get stock), where as the Plus model is is overpriced and over shadowed by the 13 and 14 Pro Max.

The 14 Plus would have to sell significantly worse than the mini for Apple to reconsider it, since it brings in higher revenue and margins.

As I mentioned before, an easy way to boost Plus sales is to increase the price of Pro Max. If the $200 gap is too close, make it $400. If people want the pill, the entire 15 lineup is getting it.
 
The 14 Plus would have to sell significantly worse than the mini for Apple to reconsider it, since it brings in higher revenue and margins.

As I mentioned before, an easy way to boost Plus sales is to increase the price of Pro Max. If the $200 gap is too close, make it $400. If people want the pill, the entire 15 lineup is getting it.
This logic can be applied to boost sales for any particular product in a line up. You make it sound like some kind of money grabbing puzzle game, and forgetting the most important thing, the consumers.
 
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Thats the problem right there, the 14 Plus models are not selling very well. At least the Mini model actually offers a unique size in the line up, an actual size option (selling out on Amazon as soon as they get stock), where as the Plus model is is overpriced and over shadowed by the 13 and 14 Pro Max.
Genius marketing by apple. Maybe it’s serendipity but the pro max models are cannabalizing the sales of the iPhone plus.
 
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It’s a super duper cycle I guess.

I’m pretty sure next quarter will be another all time record as well - despite all the recession and calamities fears and realities.

I don’t believe in super cycles anymore.

I believe it’s more a case of Apple having over a billion active iphone users. It doesn’t matter that people are holding on to their iPhones for longer than ever before. A slower upgrade cycle still works out to a very impressive number of iPhones sold in terms of raw numbers.

At this point, the concern isn’t whether people are buying iPhones. It’s whether Apple can make enough to meet demand.
 
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My 14 pro max came about a week after it went on sale. Tried it for three weeks and sent it back. Sent the case back to Amazon, too...

Going back to my 11 pro max, the only real change I noticed was the oleophobic coating on my 11 has worn off a bat and the battery doesn't quite last as long as the 14 pro max. On the plus side, it is easier to hold and reach the notifications than the 14PM and while I will admit that the purple colour was pure fire!!! and the close up camera was super sharp, these two factors were not enough to justify a 60% increase in price over the equivalent 11PM, 256MB model, three years ago.

For what it's worth, iPhone 14pro sales numbers in Japan are down about 30% from the 12PM which was the best selling model and a MIND BLOWING 69% for the 14 base model compared with the 12 base model.

Japan is currently in a major shift away from the iPhone: back in the iPhone 12 days Apple held 55% of the ENTIRE Japanese smartphone market. Will not look so rosy for Apple this year, to be sure.
I expect a similar response in the EU. Maybe even more pronounced here.
 
This logic can be applied to boost sales for any particular product in a line up. You make it sound like some kind of money grabbing puzzle game, and forgetting the most important thing, the consumers.

No other product in the world has the brand recognition and product awareness like iPhone.

What’s also happened is the mainstream iPhone lineup has crept up in price, but the Pro models haven’t increased by a single dollar in the past five years.
 
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