Apple Cinema Display Updates?

[macshark]

A 30" planar display is simply too big for sitting in front of it and working. Many people who use multiple 20" or 23" displays place them at a slight angle (instead of just parallel) so that when you turn your head one way or another, you will be looking straight at one of the displays.

If Apple is indeed going to come up with a 30" LCD Panel product, it is more likely to be a LCD TV with built-in Airport Extreme that will enable a user to play DVDs from the DVD drive or stream movies from the hard disk of another Mac with Airport Extreme. The introduction of iPod proved that Apple is not afraid of entering consumer electronics business as long as they can add value through SW and computer connectivity. A "connected" LCD TV device will be the perfect entry point into another area of consumer electronics for Apple.

 

[macMaestro]

Reading that 2002 reject list, I noticed another rumor that came true - Firewire 800. I have no idea what that HDTV thing is about though.

Mac Rumors: 2002: Rumor Rejects and Unconfirmed
(Item #3)

 

[Ja Di ksw]

mouse

Originally posted by arn
I disagree

https://www.macrumors.com/downloads/darkscreen.jpg

arn

I guess now we know the answer to whether arn uses a multi or single button mouse 🙂. Good set-up, I like the corner idea.

A 30" would be great, and I would love to have it for my computer, to use as a tv, and to watch dvd's on. My problem with it is apple is going to charge a ton of money, one of my kidneys, and my first born child for it. So now I have to decide, first born child, monitor, first born child, monitor. . . . hmmmmmm. . . . . .

 

[fixyourthinking]

Originally posted by macshark


If Apple is indeed going to come up with a 30" LCD Panel product, it is more likely to be a LCD TV with built-in Airport Extreme that will enable a user to play DVDs from the DVD drive or stream movies from the hard disk of another Mac with Airport Extreme. The introduction of iPod proved that Apple is not afraid of entering consumer electronics business as long as they can add value through SW and computer connectivity. A "connected" LCD TV device will be the perfect entry point into another area of consumer electronics for Apple.

Nice insight ... Apple & Philips being cozy doesn't seem to be coincidence either. Philips I think wants more out the relationship than just Rendezvous and a couple consortium secrets. They are the number one provider of TV Tuning chips/connections ... so you may indeed have a point. I think Apple may have been working on this type of technology since before the iMac LCD was introduced too. One very credible source of mine swore that they spied a tablet Mac that was similar in design to the iMac - just had a wireless detachable display.

This may also be the timing for a TV Tuner Mac to come out of Apple. I believe the Mac TV was released in 1992 and the TAM was released in 1997. In my opinion those were some of the coolest products Apple has produced - even if both were slightly underpowered.

Think of this concept too. What if iPods were to pick up wireless capability and be able to wirelessly send playlist management via bluetooth to a display like this just like the t68i does or even send the sound file themselves to control built in iTunes visuals. To top it off a future iPod could control the TV itself via the same push technology Salling Clicker uses.

 

[Chomolungma]

30" curve OLED display?

Originally posted by jayscheuerle
My dual monitors are not on the same plane. There's an angle in between the two so that the faces are more or less perpendicular to my line of sight.

At 30", I'd want a screen that had a curve to it so that the edges would be as close to my eyes as the center of the display was.

THAT would be sweet. - j

a 30" Curve OLED display would be fantastic!

Would it be cool to have Airport Extreme in future Apple displays so it can communicate with the PowerBook. Apple Display hook to a base station + computer speaker would be perfect, because all you have to do then is to connect your PB to the AC outlet and you are set. Well, it may not be this combination of devices, but I would love to have this set up.

Chom

 

[tutubibi]

Originally posted by e-coli
I don't think Apple can or should be competing in low end products. the market is saturated with lower priced 17" LCD screens. Apple should drop it and go with the bigger screens, instead.

But how many of 17" LCDs have ADC and DVI? Apple needs something <😀> affordable </😀> for people who are buying 1.6 G5s or second display for PowerBook.
17" as it is now may be discontinued but I hope something else (and better) will be offered by Apple in that price range (17.?" widescreen or price drop on 20").

Edit: spelling

 

[MacFan25]

I think a 30" display could compliment a G5 quite well. 😀

If Apple does come out with a 30" display, I'm sure it won't be cheap, but I think it could sell reasonably well.

 

[j33pd0g]

Originally posted by yamabushi
Well, for a few people it will be practical. Newspaper layouts, etc.

Oh, I wish that was true. While it would be practical, the price of this 30 incher would have to be like $39.00 before my company would buy them. Price is driving the head office towards the PC. 😡 These guys can buy a whole dell setup for mega-cheap. They don't care that they have to replace them every year. They won't even spring for a banged up used G3 computer... or even ram for the ones we have. However, this could just be the economy in my area dictating these computer atrocities.

I myself would get one if I had the scratch. I hope the 20" goes down in price. I think Apple would end up killing new switcher sales if they ditched the 17". I wouldn't have been able to afford my G4 and anything else if the 17" wasn't an option. Although, there are 3rd party CRTS & LCDS . So maybe that's part of the plan.

 

[iHack]

Originally posted by Peyote
snip.


The only instance I could see using a 30" screen would be for video editing, or when a home user wants to use the screen for tv watching as well. That I could dig. Assuming Apple put out a screen that could display both VGA and NTSC with good quality.

I want one!
[puts first stash of money in special place]

I've been looking for a LCD or plasma screen this size for my living room, one I can also use with a computer - or rather, my wife, who does receive e-mail regularly, but can't be bothered walking up the stairs to our iMac - I end up citing messages to her, or printing them for her. Quite a nuisance. And it would be great for surfing the web too. Just put a G4 with AE in a cupboard or under the sofa, whip out the BT keyboard and mouse .... 😀 😎

But not "Never The Same Color", please.
PAL, anyone?

M.

BTW, my wife's great - it's just that she can't be bothered to use a computer. Maybe that's because she has such a willing 'secretary'.

 

[Peyote]

I think you people are missing the most wonderful connection here.

All this talk about Airport and wireless displays can lead to one thing only.




That's right, a 30" TABLET computer!


That's right! Theeeeenk of the possibilities!


Sorry, didn't mean to blow your MINDS!



By the way....when are the G6's coming out?

 

[VicMacs]

would this be...

kinda like an iMax cinema display... concave and all? heheh

10.3 is pretty good to start the year's end.. but 30inches is insane...

 

[iHack]

Originally posted by adzoox
Nice insight ... Apple & Philips being cozy doesn't seem to be coincidence either. Philips I think wants more out the relationship than just Rendezvous and a couple consortium secrets. They are the number one provider of TV Tuning chips/connections ... so you may indeed have a point. I think Apple may have been working on this type of technology since before the iMac LCD was introduced too. One very credible source of mine swore that they spied a tablet Mac that was similar in design to the iMac - just had a wireless detachable display.

This may also be the timing for a TV Tuner Mac to come out of Apple. I believe the Mac TV was released in 1992 and the TAM was released in 1997. In my opinion those were some of the coolest products Apple has produced - even if both were slightly underpowered.

Think of this concept too. What if iPods were to pick up wireless capability and be able to wirelessly send playlist management via bluetooth to a display like this just like the t68i does or even send the sound file themselves to control built in iTunes visuals. To top it off a future iPod could control the TV itself via the same push technology Salling Clicker uses.

Apple and Philips? Philips is one of the largest LCD producers, through LG.Philips LCD. And I gather they are looking for 'new' markets to put their LCD's in...

Sounds cool...

M.

 

[tny]

Originally posted by Peyote
I think you people are missing the most wonderful connection here.

All this talk about Airport and wireless displays can lead to one thing only.

I'd be surprised if one could run a real display - let alone a 2400 x 1800 display - on 54 Mbps. I think (just doing the math, 60 Hz x 2400 x 1800 x 24 bits/pixel) you'd need about 1000X the bandwidth of Airport extreme. You could do a virtual desktop, something like VNC, if you also had a processor in the "display," but actual video signal?

 

[Bear]

Originally posted by macshark
A 30" planar display is simply too big for sitting in front of it and working. Many people who use multiple 20" or 23" displays place them at a slight angle (instead of just parallel) so that when you turn your head one way or another, you will be looking straight at one of the displays.
...

I have a 23" Cinema Display. From where I sit, a 30" display would be very usable. It would add 4 or 5 inches to to the horizontal direction. Looking at the 23" I would have no problem working with a 30" screen.

Everybody has different perceptions and work habits. In this case a 30" screen at the aforemention resolution will get more than enough buyers to make it worthwhile.

I have worked with dual (and even triple screens). Some software doesn't like working well on multiple monitors so again, I say my needs differ froms yours as they differ from what others need.

You buy what size you're comfortable with and I'll buy what I want/need/can use.

The one size fits all mentality that some companies have really sucks. Apple has been doing their best to come up with multiple sizes of things.

 

[Lanbrown]

Originally posted by tutubibi
No 17". I don't think so.
Apple needs entry level display for people that are buying PowerMacs and even notebooks. Without 17", the lowest priced apple display would be 20" at almost $2,000 CAD.

Maybe they will replace 17" with 17" wide? 😕

I do agree that the 17 will probably become a widescreen. They could use the same panel that is in the iMac.

Or they could also lower the price of the 20 and have no 17.

 

[airbag]

This is exiting ... I hope we'll se a full re-design!

I remember reading somewhere on this forum about a company that makes really good-looking flatscreens, with aluminium (or some sort of steel) ultra thin bezels and a real attention to design, but now I can't find it.

Anyone know what I'm talking about?

😕

 

[xtekdiver]

Introducing the new iMax!

Originally posted by Peyote
Would a 30" screen even be practical?

I mean, how useable would a screen that size be? You would have to constantly turn your head back and forth just to see each edge of the screen.

I have asked myself that very question. I have a 20" cinema display and love it; I thought the 23" was about as big as you would want to sit in front of; however, I have been going to various stores and looking closely at the 30" flat panel TVs. It's big, not doubt about it. I personally think it's just a matter of getting use to the immersive experiance. Just think of it as your own personal iMax! 😀

 

[kangaroo]

Originally posted by Lanbrown
I do agree that the 17 will probably become a widescreen. They could use the same panel that is in the iMac.
...

😱

A standalone iMac 17 won't cut it. The specs aren't there.

 

[nicmac]

30" screen Perfect for Pros

This would be a perfect screen for my Architectural Work. I would buy it the day it becomes available. In fact I would buy two. One would be for reference drawings.

 

[Chisholm]

Originally posted by adzoox
Nice insight ... Apple & Philips being cozy doesn't seem to be coincidence either. Philips I think wants more out the relationship than just Rendezvous and a couple consortium secrets. They are the number one provider of TV Tuning chips/connections ... so you may indeed have a point. I think Apple may have been working on this type of technology since before the iMac LCD was introduced too. One very credible source of mine swore that they spied a tablet Mac that was similar in design to the iMac - just had a wireless detachable display.

This may also be the timing for a TV Tuner Mac to come out of Apple. I believe the Mac TV was released in 1992 and the TAM was released in 1997. In my opinion those were some of the coolest products Apple has produced - even if both were slightly underpowered.

Think of this concept too. What if iPods were to pick up wireless capability and be able to wirelessly send playlist management via bluetooth to a display like this just like the t68i does or even send the sound file themselves to control built in iTunes visuals. To top it off a future iPod could control the TV itself via the same push technology Salling Clicker uses.

And let us not forget about this http://www.tivo.com/4.9.asp
and this http://www.tivo.com/4.9.4.1.asp

 

[macphoria]

Is they drop the 17", then 20" will be the smallest model? Wouldn't that be too expensive? Maybe they should lower the price on that.

$999 for 20" perhaps?

I actually want to see 17" iMac style widescreen 17" display. 17" widescreen display for $599, I would go for that.

 

[Dahl]

I use two 17" monitors and I would love a 30" instead, but if it turns out to be too big, I can settle for a lower priced 23" and one of my old 17".
🙂

 

[WM.]

Originally posted by yamabushi
Is it possible to build two AGP 8x slots on the motherboard?

I don't think so. There's a reason it's called AGP, instead of AGB--"port" means that there can be only one device on that interface, "bus" means there can be several. AGP, obviously, is one of the former.

HTH
WM

 

[mvc]

Re: 30" screen Perfect for Pros

Originally posted by nicmac
This would be a perfect screen for my Architectural Work. I would buy it the day it becomes available. In fact I would buy two.…

TWO $3000 displays. At last, proof that architects ARE overpaid 😀

 

[AidenShaw]

That's why you can only have 1 USB port and 1 1394 port, right?

Originally posted by WM.
I don't think so. There's a reason it's called AGP, instead of AGB--"port" means that there can be only one device on that interface, "bus" means there can be several. AGP, obviously, is one of the former.

HTH
WM