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Yes, you were being sarcastic. But I was being literal about AidenShaw's MacRumors mission...
Proving that the iMac doesn't save $250/year in electricity costs.
Some people, like Mr.Lawyer, claim that I never say nice things about Apples.
But I did show that an iMac's power savings will offset its $500 price premium after only 150.6 years !!
(disclaimer: a $500 price premium for iMac over a generic PC was discussed early in this thread - I'm not claiming that's typical or accurate, just referring to the earlier discussion)
So wait: did you say something "nice" about "Apples" now? I don't think so...Mr. Shaw's biased pro-MS views continue to amuse us on this Mac forum...
So wait: did you say something "nice" about "Apples" now? I don't think so...Mr. Shaw's biased pro-MS views continue to amuse us on this Mac forum...
i think it balances out your Apple's fundamentalism views
i think it balances out your Apple's fundamentalism views
This is a forum geared toward Apple users.
This is a forum geared toward Apple users.
Is there a predefined ideology that is inherent to using an Apple?
Is there a predefined ideology that is inherent to using an Apple?
It probably wouldn't include bashing Apple and praising Dell/Microsoft on every single post.
how about bashing microsoft at every post? i think if you read Lawyers's posts they seem to be a little more extreme than most
Most of my comments in this thread have been to argue that someone used flawed methodology to estimate that an Imac would save $250/year in electric bills.
How is showing that a better estimate is about $3/year "bashing Apple and praising Dell/Microsoft"?
Aiden, your long and exhaustive comment history across many different threads makes your agenda on this forum perfectly clear.
"Dude, you're gettin a Dell!"
I've built the desktop machines that I own - I buy Dells for work.
So, you admit that bashing Apple on "every single comment" was quite an overstatement?
I don't know if I've yet seen you make a complimentary statement about Apple or its products. You are obviously not a "fan," nor probably even a customer. Your pro-Dell/Microsoft arguments, however, are legion.
Again, I couldn't care less what computer brand or OS you use. Incessantly spamming a Mac users board with your anti-Mac philosophies, however, is irritating and rude.
I'll ask you again (and you'll probably ignore me again): what is your motivation for spending your days and nights tormenting Mac users on this Mac-centric board? Inquiring minds want to know.
If you're not a perfect fit for the astroturfer "label," I don't know who is.
Core i7 saves $84/year over iMac
So far, we haven't looked at the performance-per-watt aspect of this TOC exercise.
So, consider running the systems 24x7 for a year doing h.264 video encoding. This satisfies the "full load 24x7" issue.
The obvious change here is that we need to normalize for the amount of work done, therefore the faster system can be powered off early, as soon as it completes a "year's worth" of work for the slower system.
Since SPEC includes an h.264 encoding test, we have a clear way of comparing the two systems fairly.
Doing this, we can see that you'll save $83.72 with the Core i7 system.
Notes:
SPEC reports:
So far, we haven't looked at the performance-per-watt aspect of this TOC exercise.
So, consider running the systems 24x7 for a year doing h.264 video encoding. This satisfies the "full load 24x7" issue.
The obvious change here is that we need to normalize for the amount of work done, therefore the faster system can be powered off early, as soon as it completes a "year's worth" of work for the slower system.
Since SPEC includes an h.264 encoding test, we have a clear way of comparing the two systems fairly.
Doing this, we can see that you'll save $83.72 with the Core i7 system.
Code:
System System LCD SPECint_rate Hours Cost
Watts Watts h264ref @$.15
---------- ------ ------ ------------ ----- ---------
iMac 2.93 192 0 65 8760 $252.29
i7-940 250 70 162 3512 $168.57
[b]Savings $83.72[/b]Notes:
- This factors the LCD running 24x7. That's unreasonable, but since it's constant for both systems it doesn't affect the result
- The SPEC numbers are rates compared to a reference system, so the i7 needs 40% (65/162) of the time that the iMac needs
- Apple only submits Xserve results to SPEC, so there were no iMac numbers. There was a Lenovo laptop with a T9600 (2.8GHz) listed, so that result was multiplied by 2.93/2.8 to estimate the iMac number
- The SPEC test runs a separate copy of the encoder for each logical CPU - two copies for the Core 2 Duo, eight copies for the Core i7
SPEC reports:
I think I've put around $2200 into the PC I currently use. Put it together on my own though.
$1800 initial cost, then finally $400 for a new CPU and GPU.
$1800 initial cost, then finally $400 for a new CPU and GPU.
Which is why I suggest that certain users get a full blown Core i7 over AMD and Core 2 if you're going to do a lot of rendering/encoding.
PC's come stripped.
Did anybody mention that the PCs dont have anything on 'em but some trial software, and are missing crucial virus protection, cameras, any software other than WMP or IE?
Add all that to the real Price$$
Did anybody mention that the PCs dont have anything on 'em but some trial software, and are missing crucial virus protection, cameras, any software other than WMP or IE?
Add all that to the real Price$$
The discussion has mainly been about the power costs of running the system.
By the way, look at http://download.live.com/ if you think that Windows 7 doesn't have "iphoto" and "imovie" and mail and other software....
Apples to lemons
You're missing the point Windows is CRAP! CRAP CRAP! OSX is what people want. Not Vista with a promise of W7 (Vista 2)
I fix PC's ALL day long, and all my family & friends PC's until they get a mac then no more problems for me.
You're missing the point Windows is CRAP! CRAP CRAP! OSX is what people want. Not Vista with a promise of W7 (Vista 2)
I fix PC's ALL day long, and all my family & friends PC's until they get a mac then no more problems for me.
On the whole, are my posts factual or lies? If they're not lies, then why would the truth "torment" Mac users?
If you need to put a label on me so that you can feel better about ignoring my posts - fine. It's your loss.
I post because some people here write pure lies about Windows - and I think that most readers would like to know when a poster is writing BS.
I post because some people think that Apple is innovating some incredible things, when often Apple is borrowing (Apple fans would say "stealing" if Microsoft did the same thing) and improving previous research. Case in point:
Fanboi: Apple are geniuses for inventing multi-touch for the Iphone
AidenShaw: Multi-touch was first described at MIT in 1983 [url to back up claim]
AidenShaw: Multi-touch was first described at MIT in 1983 [url to back up claim]
I also post because I learn as I post. You see that I often add links to back up my position - and that's because I double-check and verify. I learn a lot doing that.
I see the occasional post (and the more frequent IM) thanking me for adding balance to the forums. That means more to me than a few people repeatedly saying that I'm in their killfile (if I'm really in their killfile, why do they need to repeat that?
), or asking me if I'm an astroturfer.If I'm posting garbage, then rip me a new one for that. If it's not garbage, then to dismiss it as "the work of an astroturfer" is intellectually dishonest. The facts don't have a motive.
And, honestly, I'm not a paid astroturfer, and have no association with any group that would benefit from harm to Apple. (However, if anyone knows someone who would pay me good money to post in user forums, please IM me!
)(I didn't ignore you
)
How do you explain the 90% to 95% market share for Windows then?
Apparently OSX isn't what a majority of the people want....
You conveniently refuse to answer the question (big surprise). What is your motivation?
I could spend my days (and nights) posting "truths" in a Windows-oriented board, dispelling the absurd anti-Apple propaganda that permeates that user base and mocking their bug-ridden and derivative computing platform. But why would I? I would gain no benefit from it, I would antagonize their forum members, and ultimately I would not change anything. If I were paid to do so, I might consider it. Otherwise, it would be a complete waste of my (and their) time and bandwidth.
So again, what is your motivation? Just a personal quest to spread truth, justice, and the American way? Curiously, I never see you mention any "truths" that are critical of your pet companies (Microsoft and Dell), though there certainly are many. Seems the truths you share are only the truths that serve your purposes (which remain unrevealed).
P.S. most of us can discern the truth from the lies about Windows without your help, thanks, because most of us actually use Windows too. Sorry to burst your bubble that you are the light-wielding ignorance buster of MacRumors.
If he gets your goat so much, why don't you just put him on the ignore list?
Surely if you think he's wasting his time, then you realize that your time is equally wasted responding to his posts.