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Apple Claims Largest Ever First-Day iPhone Pre-Orders of 600,000

Verizon would have had the same problems if they currently had 40 million iPhone users reseting the standards for data usage on their network. Who ever had the iPhone first would have been a similar "victim of their own success". And I bet when Verizon eventually gets the iPhone, they will suffer some capacity issues on their networks too, even though they have had 3 years to learn from AT&T's unprecedented growth pains.
 
wizard said:
If a lemming runs over a cliff to his death is it his fault for running with the crowd or is it the herds fault?

My position is that you have nobody to blame but yourself here. You need to learn to stand on your own two feet and navigate this world free of the herd. Once you do so your self respect will go up and you can divorce yourself from these issues.
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jeez, what a condescending bunch of crap.

AND off topic.

what a jackhole.
 
notabadname said:
Verizon would have had the same problems if they currently had 40 million iPhone users reseting the standards for data usage on their network. Who ever had the iPhone first would have been a similar "victim of their own success". And I bet when Verizon eventually gets the iPhone, they will suffer some capacity issues on their networks too, even though they have had 3 years to learn from AT&T's unprecedented growth pains.
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Verizon and Sprint handle a lot of data now on their cell networks. Maybe they scale a little better than ATT?!?:rolleyes:
 
rlmccormick said:
Why do you feel like Apple owes you any explanation for the lack of a white iPhone?
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I personally don't... I want the black..... but if they are going to make a big deal about announcing their product and benefit from all the buzz generated, then they should also give people an explanation when they turn around and say its not available. just saying
 
bergmef said:
Verizon and Sprint handle a lot of data now on their cell networks. Maybe they scale a little better than ATT?!?:rolleyes:
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ATT handles more than Verizon and Sprint combined. They are all working with the same spectrum and equipment limitations - I doubt Verizon or Sprint would have fared any better.
 
I think Apple owed Best Buy an explanation (unless it was Best Buy that dropped the ball). I didn't realize the white wasn't available and now have a receipt that says I have a preordered white 32gb iphone 4 ready for pick up on the 24th.
 
mattster16 said:
ATT handles more than Verizon and Sprint combined. They are all working with the same spectrum and equipment limitations - I doubt Verizon or Sprint would have fared any better.
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I thought Verizon and Sprint made up 63 or so percent and all the other providers (about 17 or them) made up the rest. Where do you get the numbers from?

Was it the ABI research report?
 
jtara said:
Yes. You can almost always make a phone call. Calls seldom drop. Their customer reps bend over backwards to please you. They replace phones, no questions asked, with profuse apologies, when Asurion ships you a bad insurance replacement.

Unfortunately, they don't have the iPhone.
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Everything you've said has been the same experience I've personally had with AT&T.
 
wizard said:
Servers are easy, getting the software to work correctly under massive load isn't. Besides you mis the important issue the demand greatly exceeded their estimates. Indications now are ten times last years sales that is pretty surprising.

If a lemming runs over a cliff to his death is it his fault for running with the crowd or is it the herds fault?

My position is that you have nobody to blame but yourself here. You need to learn to stand on your own two feet and navigate this world free of the herd. Once you do so your self respect will go up and you can divorce yourself from these issues.

So?

Really so?

That question is so ignorant as to class this whole message as crap. Contrary to what has been indicated in the press Verizon isn't any better than AT&T. Especially with respect to predicting consummer demand. Remember they originally had a shot at iPhone and couldn't grasp why it would be a hot seller.

Locally I had a Verizon phone before the iPhone and can say there is no difference in performance. More so Verizon is a real pain in the a$$ when you have to do business with them. They wanted to turn every conversation into an effort to sell something else. AT&T on the otherhand hasn't bothered me with that.

I'm trying not to be hostile here but this crap really needs to be addressed because Apple, AT&T and all of it's other launch partners got swamped. In a very real sense they had numerous servers going into overload.


Dave
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Man, who shot your dog today????
Your post is so out of proportion to the post you were ostensibly responding to.

Chillax dude. Didn't know there were troll wizards.
 
Cougarcat said:
AT&T had their biggest online sales day yesterday. The numbers would have been high even if it hadn't been an international pre-order.
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The 600,000 number is from Apple, not AT&T. I'm not interested in AT&T crap, and sorry but I don't think wouldn't have been any where's close to 600k if it was just released in the US
 
Does the 600,000 include in store reservations as well, or just those who actually ordered the phone?
 
blen said:
Does anyone know what this RESERVED iPhone fine print means?!

Sounds like nothing is guaranteed, even if you reserved a phone.
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I called the Apple Store I reserved my phone at (in the UK) and was told that a reserved phone is held all day on the 24th as stated in the email.

I have no idea even what "pre-authorization" is but it doesn't mean "pre-ordered" or "reserved".
 
bergmef said:
Did you hit it 40 times for fun? Or because they (don't know which one) couldn't handle the 600,000 total (6 or more countries, not just ATT) orders. They were swamped because they couldn't handle the original load (thus people hit the button 40 times for 10 hours) ... not that they had such a heavy load they were swamped.
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The point being, that a vast majority of the 600,000 were all trying at the same time in the first hour, competing with each other. And so all of us continually tried, competing with each other throughout the day. The OP downplayed the 600,000. The number would not be so significant if were not for the idea that nearly a half million people were probably trying at any given hour to produce the final result of successful orders. It was the traffic density attempting, not just the volume that completed, that jammed up the servers. Considering how many posters have commented that they didn't complete a reservation at all, I would say they hourly traffic load had to be rather amazing, simply by extrapolating back from the successful reservations number. Perhaps 1 million people actually tried to make a reservation, since it would seem nearly half the posters here didn't get a reservation. I, like the other people who tried to make a purchase, found no joy in the attempts.
 
bergmef said:
I thought Verizon and Sprint made up 63 or so percent and all the other providers (about 17 or them) made up the rest. Where do you get the numbers from?

Was it the ABI research report?
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It's what Steve Jobs said at the All Things Digital conference.

It seems odd to lump Verizon and Sprint together and then say "the rest" when AT&T is way, way bigger than Sprint.
 
bigjnyc said:
I personally don't... I want the black..... but if they are going to make a big deal about announcing their product and benefit from all the buzz generated, then they should also give people an explanation when they turn around and say its not available. just saying
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It could be worse. Apple could have delayed announcing a white color until after launch, angering customers that already purchased a black color iPhone.

Knowing there will be a white color gives customers options. I really don't see how an explanation will change anything.
 
There hasn't been anything else to compare the iPhone 4 pre-order launch on any other vendor, so while it's easy to complain about the overwhelmed pre-order process/system... we're all just trying to find ways to vent our anxiety and anticipation over the next 9 days waiting for the iphone 4 to arrive...

I have had each model iPhone since it's launch and while i'm not always an AT&T sympathizer, the purchasing process on launch date and thereafter has improved...

I think not having both white and black iphone 4's available on launch day sucks, but i think we'll all get over it....
 
grapemac said:
I called the Apple Store I reserved my phone at (in the UK) and was told that a reserved phone is held all day on the 24th as stated in the email.

I have no idea even what "pre-authorization" is but it doesn't mean "pre-ordered" or "reserved".
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thanks...this makes sense.

I'll be going on the 24th. It will suck, but I'll be there.
 
The best I could do was a launch day in-store pickup pre-order. I'll take it though considering how this seems to be blowing the 3G and 3GS launch day problems out of the water.
 
mattster16 said:
It's what Steve Jobs said at the All Things Digital conference.

It seems odd to lump Verizon and Sprint together and then say "the rest" when AT&T is way, way bigger than Sprint.
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I only lumped because of this article on cable360 (many others carried the same one, this one popped up first). If it's wrong, then so be it. But I saw the same thing on Cellular World, Cell Research and others. Don't shoot the messenger.

According to ABI Research, Verizon Wireless carried the most mobile data in 2009, followed by Sprint. Customers of these two operators generated 63 percent of the U.S. market’s mobile network data traffic.

“Interestingly AT&T had the most activated data devices in 2009," said ABI Practice Director Dan Shey in a statement. "But it is laptop mobile data connections that have the most impact on operator data traffic levels. Mobile broadband laptop connections to Verizon and Sprint each far exceed AT&T’s laptop connections.”
 
bergmef said:
Verizon and Sprint handle a lot of data now on their cell networks. Maybe they scale a little better than ATT?!?:rolleyes:
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a lot?

The iPhone accounted for 58% of all mobile browsing in the US. So, while Verizon has smart phones, their users don't use the data to anywhere near the extent of AT&T's users do. And the 58% doesn't account for the other smart phones AT&T has on its network. Safe to say that at a minimum, 60% of all high-data-rate browsing is being done on AT&T (and fair to say more than that with all the Blackberrys they sell), all the other carriers divide up the balance. Therefore, Verizon doesn't even come close, even if they accounted for a full half of the rest of the market, that would leave them with 20% at the very max.
:rolleyes:
 
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