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Apple Claims Potential Injunction Against iCloud Could Result in $2.7 Billion Loss

AidenShaw said:
Apple's patent portfolio is far too shallow to engage in a battle like this.
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I concur.

Fortunately, with the new more sensible and cool headed Tim Cook at the helm, I do believe that things will begin to settle down after this current crop of wars that Apple is in the midst of, get cleared up.

Tim is far more interested in Apple's success by competing in the market place via innovation, over placing ones focus on vindictive, hate spewing law suits.
 
paj said:
Yes, but NASA was using Motorola equipment.

"Beginning in 1958 with Explorer 1, Motorola provided radio equipment for most NASA space-flights for decades including during the 1969 moon landing." (from wikipedia)

and here is a more recent one with details.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_1999_Feb_1/ai_53672762/
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You seem to still miss the point. Just because we used Motorola parts and radios for some space programs doesnt mean that us wirelessly syncing satellites was Motorola software. And this is a software issue with the patent, and given the grounds that Motorola is suing about with it, everything from auto NAS backups to every smart phones operation, is covered by their patent, despite none of the devices being a pager (the original subject of the patent). Also anyone thinking this is really Motorola doing this and not there new owner (google) having them do it, doesnt understand very well.
 
Tigger11 said:
You seem to still miss the point. Just because we used Motorola parts and radios for some space programs doesnt mean that us wirelessly syncing satellites was Motorola software. And this is a software issue with the patent, and given the grounds that Motorola is suing about with it, everything from auto NAS backups to every smart phones operation, is covered by their patent, despite none of the devices being a pager (the original subject of the patent). Also anyone thinking this is really Motorola doing this and not there new owner (google) having them do it, doesnt understand very well.
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So...what you're saying is that you know far more than the judge that granted the injunction and is reportedly skeptical about Apple's case? :rolleyes:
 
Tigger11 said:
You seem to still miss the point. Just because we used Motorola parts and radios for some space programs doesnt mean that us wirelessly syncing satellites was Motorola software. And this is a software issue with the patent, and given the grounds that Motorola is suing about with it, everything from auto NAS backups to every smart phones operation, is covered by their patent, despite none of the devices being a pager (the original subject of the patent). Also anyone thinking this is really Motorola doing this and not there new owner (google) having them do it, doesnt understand very well.
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Reading through some of the past posts here, I was surprised at how many people think of Motorola as a cell phone company. Yes, not only radios for the Space program but in emergency radios (Fire, Ambulance, Repeaters, Ham Radio (my hobby) ) they are top notch.

Regardless of what you read here (On this board any company that dares compete with Apple is "the enemy" and "must die") Motorola is a fine company that makes fine equipment. For God sakes they developed and produced the 68000 processor that made the Mac possible in the 1st place..
 
Tigger11 said:
Also anyone thinking this is really Motorola doing this and not there new owner (google) having them do it, doesnt understand very well.
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So what if it is google? Apple started all this nonsense in the first place. Live by the sword die by the sword.
 
So lets see.

A) Make a product, use patented techonology in it, use it as a big salespoint, sell alot.

B) Get sued, claim a clump sum of money to cover your loss for using patented technology from the company inventing it in the first place.

Can you really do that or did I miss something? Why not make a uPhone from china, make it run OSZ, get sued by Apple then do the same as above and make a ton of money...
 
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bEEarCUB said:
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How does one patent cloud based synchronization? That seems like a patent that should have never been given out.

Does someone own corded charging? Browser integration? File downloading?
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A grid of colorful icons?
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Epic answer!
 
What goes around, comes around.

Lately, Apple has been using their lawyers more then the ACLU! Jobs was an arrogant jerk and he was the one behind all these fights with other companies. Now they're finding ways to fight fire with fire.

This is why Levinson thinks Apple should be less arrogant. Apple has "borrowed" or bought ideas from other companies. They all do it. Levinson is thinking more rationally than jobs did. Think about it, jobs fight against Google was all about pride, not business. Google's trying to "copy" iOS just made iOS look better and increased it's perceived value. That helps Apple products maintain high margins.

Jobs instigated this latest round of suing and it looks like it's very possible that Apple just might come out on the loosing end (overall) or at the very least cost Apple more than it was worth. Really, how much can Samsung or Google hurt Apple? On the other hand, if Apple was to be forced to remove iCloud from it's products in Germany that would be a big blow to their longterm plans.

It looks like Levinson wants to move towards more cooperation then fighting. I also think that you'll see Apple back off the strong arm tactics that they've used in the past to hurt or hinder their competitor's supply chains.

Apple has been the bully on the block and now it's coming back to bite them. I love Apple products but I also would like to see them taken down a notch or two.

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vitzr said:
I concur.

Fortunately, with the new more sensible and cool headed Tim Cook at the helm, I do believe that things will begin to settle down after this current crop of wars that Apple is in the midst of, get cleared up.

Tim is far more interested in Apple's success by competing in the market place via innovation, over placing ones focus on vindictive, hate spewing law suits.
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And the new Chairman seems to be on the same page.
 
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modufour said:
I hate Motorola. And Samsung! Boycot!:mad:
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I hate Motorola. And Samsung! Fanboy !

There, fixed that for you!
 
guerro said:
Might be cheaper to just buy Motorola. Moto couldn't be worth much.
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Google is paying 12.5 bil for them.

ct2k7 said:
Google probably won't be owning Motorola anytime soon, but they might be owning Motorola Mobility soon.
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Just going to point that it is Motorola Mobility is the group that is suing Apple. They are the group that owns all the patents.
 
The latest . . .

http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/11/motorola-not-allowed-to-attack-iphone.html

Motorola Mobility not allowed to attack Apple iPhone 4S, iCloud and iTunes in ongoing Florida litigation

“Today the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida granted an Apple motion to strike Motorola Mobility’s supplemental infringement contentions, i.e., accusations of infringement that Motorola brought into the game at a rather late stage,” Florian Mueller reports for FOSS Patents.

“Motorola filed those contentions on October 28, 2011. The document didn’t enter the public record, but Apple filed a motion to strike, Motorola replied to it (too late), and the court issued an order,” Mueller reports. “From the pleadings, I’ve gathered that Motorola’s supplemental contentions not only raised new issues with respect to certain originally-accused products but also brought three new products into that lawsuit: the iPhone 4S, the iCloud, and iTunes.”

Mueller reports, “We will see what the outcome of this litigation is. The trial is scheduled for August 2012. There are ways in which rulings concerning the infringement of a given patent with a given kind of technology can also affect more recent products.”
 
*LTD* said:
The latest . . .

http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/11/motorola-not-allowed-to-attack-iphone.html

Motorola Mobility not allowed to attack Apple iPhone 4S, iCloud and iTunes in ongoing Florida litigation

“Today the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida granted an Apple motion to strike Motorola Mobility’s supplemental infringement contentions, i.e., accusations of infringement that Motorola brought into the game at a rather late stage,” Florian Mueller reports for FOSS Patents.

“Motorola filed those contentions on October 28, 2011. The document didn’t enter the public record, but Apple filed a motion to strike, Motorola replied to it (too late), and the court issued an order,” Mueller reports. “From the pleadings, I’ve gathered that Motorola’s supplemental contentions not only raised new issues with respect to certain originally-accused products but also brought three new products into that lawsuit: the iPhone 4S, the iCloud, and iTunes.”

Mueller reports, “We will see what the outcome of this litigation is. The trial is scheduled for August 2012. There are ways in which rulings concerning the infringement of a given patent with a given kind of technology can also affect more recent products.”
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even if block. moto could easily file a new law suit with iCloud and iPhone4S in a seperate trial.

Btw nice off topic post.
 
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