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The only people I see using this are fanboys. Everyone already uses either Pandora, Spotify or SiriusXM. Apple shouldn't make this move. Against it. Also, Apple will find some way to ruin it anyways.

Is that you, Ballmer?

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I'm sure he's already written it. Apple have an annoying habit of ballsing up everything internet/cloud related.

Apple already has millions of users streaming music using iTunes Match. I am doing that right now.
 
Exactly. Tim Cook is old. Old like me. And old people don't have any fresh ideas. Just old re wrapped ideas made to look new. Apple needs much younger people at the top levels. Nobody older than 40. In some businesses, old is good to keep a company stable. However, in a tech business, youth keeps the company fresh and moving forward. Old people stagnate it.

There are so many things that are wrong in this post I won't touch it.

Old people?
 
I really don't see what they are offering over existing services?

Pandora does radio style streaming very well and Spotify is an awesome on-demand service.

What are Apple bringing to the table here?

Pandora doesn't work world-wide? Spotiify requires a Facebook account? I could go on and on.
 
I am comparing it to free to free when I compare what I hear of the two, and I'm a massive fanboy. As far as what I have with free Spotify when sitting at a computer I think it is top of the food chain. As far as the mobile version goes I think it is a wash between them and the competitors. From what I've heard of iRadio, I don't understand the people saying, "iRadio will be superior." It looks to be unfounded. It is Pandora with the ability to rewind a song...Wow, mind blown?

Personally I don't buy songs through iTunes so that feature is lost to me. It seems like Apple is doing this for no other reason than to try to drum up sales for iTunes. It seems nothing more than a "preview before you buy." I haven't heard of any features it is going to have that would give it a step up on any of the competition who have been doing it for years. I really don't see it pulling people away from Spotify.

How are you comparing if Spotify Free does not stream on mobile ?

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Pandora doesn't work world-wide? Spotiify requires a Facebook account? I could go on and on.

This.

Americans and their bellybuttons.
 
Spotiify requires a Facebook account?

No it doesn't.

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Oh, it must be Friday of the first week of the fourth month. How many times have we read this?
 
There are so many things that are wrong in this post I won't touch it.

Old people?

Old, like me. Same age, over 50. People in my age group are slow to change or accept change. It's a fact. That may work well in some industries, it does not work well in the ever changing tech field. Tim Cook does not have fresh ideas, if any at all. iRadio is another example of and old and stale idea.
 
Dont know if this related but i had a dream last night about Steve Jobs. We where in this tech convention, Steve was stood behind me. Anyways the speaker at the time was pretty boring so I amused myself and downloaded a few pics of naked women.
Steve caught me as he was looking over my shoulder the nosey so and so but boy he was so angry. He wasnt impressed. I had to go see him after and he made me apologise and that naked women should never ever be downloaded onto Macs. I said sorry. I went home ashamed. Steve phoned me up later that day and said he had been a bit harsh. He also admitted to looking at naked women online. :confused: :confused:
 
Dont know if this related but i had a dream last night about Steve Jobs. We where in this tech convention, Steve was stood behind me. Anyways the speaker at the time was pretty boring so I amused myself and downloaded a few pics of naked women.
Steve caught me as he was looking over my shoulder the nosey so and so but boy he was so angry. He wasnt impressed. I had to go see him after and he made me apologise and that naked women should never ever be downloaded onto Macs. I said sorry. I went home ashamed. Steve phoned me up later that day and said he had been a bit harsh. He also admitted to looking at naked women online. :confused: :confused:

How many acids did you drop ?! :D
 
How many acids did you drop ?! :D

:D:D No idea!

On a serious note and staying on topic Im looking forward to seeing how Apple can take the streaming model forward. I never really go the streaming culture but in recent months Ive taken an interest in the likes of Deezer, so looking to forward to Apples model and hopefully reasonable pricing. Lots of of old stuff and new that I would like to have a listen to now and again but not neccessarily waste my pennies buying.
Also Ive got back into vinyl big time and whilst at home there isnt a better way to listen to your favourite albums having an extensive collection is rather appealing. Lets hope they do a grand job on iRadio.
 
I really don't see what they are offering over existing services?

Pandora does radio style streaming very well and Spotify is an awesome on-demand service.

What are Apple bringing to the table here?

Maybe will know after it's,you know,announced?
 
Nope.

I think Apple is behind the eight ball here. Pandora-type service is old news. On demand (Spotify, etc.) is where it's at.
 
The only people I see using this are fanboys. Everyone already uses either Pandora, Spotify or SiriusXM. Apple shouldn't make this move. Against it. Also, Apple will find some way to ruin it anyways.

Against it why? Because more choices is a terrible thing? Also why would only "fanboys" use the service? What about the millions of other Apple consumers that are not "married" to everything with an Apple logo, but instead, chose Apple products because they are easier to use and understand?

Finally, let's assume everyone uses one of the services you mention above. In 1989 everyone used their local cable service for TV. Now many have pulled the plug or use satellite. Are you suggesting consumer choice is locked in and doesn't change? Is that why the Palm is the #1 selling smartphone in 2013?

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I think Apple is behind the eight ball here. Pandora-type service is old news. On demand (Spotify, etc.) is where it's at.

Aren't you making some unfounded assumptions? Apple hasn't announced a service yet, much less how it will work, or what it will cost. How can you suggest Apple is behind the 8 ball if we don't know Apple's position yet?
 
Old, like me. Same age, over 50. People in my age group are slow to change or accept change. It's a fact. That may work well in some industries, it does not work well in the ever changing tech field. Tim Cook does not have fresh ideas, if any at all. iRadio is another example of and old and stale idea.

I am 32 work in a 'hot' enterprise technolgoy (business intelligence) and find your comment to be inaccurate. I am a consultant, and have had the opportunity to do extended projects with over 20 different clients from various industry sectors, pharma to finance to banks to consumer goods.

I won't get into how this is sterotyping, all I can say is from my experience some of the most incredible people with the freshest ideas were in their 50s, and on the flip side, some of the laziest, LEAST ORIGINAL ideas came from 20 something.

Steve Job was OLD, and his best work was the last decade of his life.
 
And old people don't have any fresh ideas.

Yup. Einstein, Ford, Marconi, Edison, Franklin, Bell, Benz, Westinghouse, Jobs, Tesla, Da Vinci, etc.... all washed up at 39.

And Zuckerberg... proving youth is genius pushing out an Android FaceBook phone. Such amazing innovation, only possible from a kid.

:rolleyes:
 
I pay the $36/yr for Pandora for no ads and skipping songs. I'm always open to something new. I tried Spotify but didn't like the Facebook integration and the Premium service is way more expensive. Using Pandora, it's not uncommon for me to bookmark a song and later buy it on iTunes. It works for me... ;-)

Interesting. However, I feel I need to point out that Facebook has nothing to do with my Spotify account. I don't want to share my music collection or what I listen to with anyone, unless I want to. Thankfully Spotify doesn't enforce this upon you, so I see nothing of the Facebook integration.

You're right, paying $9.99 each month is more than $36/yr, but won't you exceed that amount later on by buying songs on Itunes?

~

By the way, what do I do if I don't have a backup of my purchased music from Itunes? I've heard that you can download previous purchased music in several countries, but I can't find that option here in Sweden. I can't even re-purchase those songs...what do I do?

:confused:
 
I pay the $36/yr for Pandora for no ads and skipping songs. I'm always open to something new. I tried Spotify but didn't like the Facebook integration and the Premium service is way more expensive. Using Pandora, it's not uncommon for me to bookmark a song and later buy it on iTunes. It works for me... ;-)
Same here and for 2 additional reasons, higher bitrate and airplay to my home stereo system using Pandorajam. I tried Spotify but it's lack of being able to airplay what I am listening to and its 128kbps stream, killed it for me. I am sure iRadio would be able iTunes airplay and have higher bitrate.
 
Isn't Pandora losing favor because it doesn't let you pick what to listen to? Not only does Spotify have a radio feature, it works everywhere, on everything, AND you can listen to albums/playlists if you desire.

So this will only work on Apple products, and give you no choice over what to listen to? If true, major major pass.

Pandora is loosing face because they are shutting out third party developers (just like Twitter) because they want people to use the web site only (for Ad revenue).
 
Same here and for 2 additional reasons, higher bitrate and airplay to my home stereo system using Pandorajam. I tried Spotify but it's lack of being able to airplay what I am listening to and its 128kbps stream, killed it for me. I am sure iRadio would be able iTunes airplay and have higher bitrate.

Did you use premium? It offers Ogg Vorbis q9 which is equivalent to 320 kbps.
 
I could see that being a success but the source for this article claims it's not going to offer on-demand listening.

I'd say the article is a combination of a bit of rumour and a bit of speculation. So there is a rumour that Apple wants to sign contracts that allow them to stream music. And they have to add a bit of speculation what Apple will do with that contract, but they know exactly as much as you and I do. So any claim what Apple _will_ do I would assume someone pulled it out of thin air. We can do that just as well, and probably better. (The reason: Analysts usually think about what they want people to do. Customers think about what _they_ want to do. And Apple is usually pretty good at figuring out what customers want better than customers do themselves).
 
Look at what they start. I'm not being biased or anything but they start niches. Google's Project Glass for example.

I like Google, but I don't think you can claim they started a niche product when the product supposedly starting the niche isn't even available yet.
 
Pandora is loosing face because they are shutting out third party developers (just like Twitter) because they want people to use the web site only (for Ad revenue).

Herein lies one of the main things I love about the Apple strategy: Their hardware business underwrites their software & services. They can provide you the software for free or cheap because they just sold you the hardware it works on, not because they are going to turn around and cram ads in every empty pixel they can find.

And there are no third or fourth parties getting in the way to screw things over. My uncle just got a free new iMac because his 2009 was having monitor issues. They can't shuffle your complaint off to someone else.

In My Opinion it's the best strategy out there. If this new streaming service implodes, like Ping, it will be Apples fault, like Ping. Not because some big ad buyer backed out, or because a partnership failed (aside from the lables), but because the idea just didn't work for whatever reason.

I'll take that over the Twitbook+ strategy any day.
 
Did you use premium? It offers Ogg Vorbis q9 which is equivalent to 320 kbps.

No, I was using the free version, which I admit from a quality standpoint, may not be a fair comparison to a paid Pandora service. Thanks for pointing that out, but I am still left with the Airplay issue and from my reading of the Spotify forum/Q@A site, they do not offer it.

Also, the real point I was getting at, is an iRadio thing would probably operate through iTunes and thus provide the benefits of iTunes e.g. AirPlay Airport Express/aTV/AVR's with built-in Airplay.
 
The kind of "free" where the cost is included in the purchase price of iPhone / iPod / iPad / Mac, or possibly included in iTunes Match. In other words, no _visible_ cost for the end user, but definitely cost for Apple, and definitely money going to the record companies / artists.
So then this "iRadio" would only be "free" on a Mac or iOS device?
 
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