Apple Closes All Stores, Corporate Offices, and Contact Centers in China Through February 9 Due to Coronavirus Outbreak

[stylinexpat]

China alerted the World Health Organization (WHO) to several cases of pneumonia in Wuhan on Dec. 31, 2019. They identified the new virus on Jan 7th, 2020. It is literally 1 month old (Over 250 dead in China). You can't compare a year of the flu to 1 month of the Coronavirus.

Depends on how you look at it. In one year for 2019 10,000 people died so if you divide that by 12 you get about 833 deaths per month and we had about 250 for February. The number of deaths for Coronavirus would need to at least triple for March to catch up with the Influenza Virus. Both are viruses and both kill people.

So far, 10,000 people have died and 180,000 people have been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC.

Flu shot better than last year, despite tough season for kids

At least 16,000 people have died and 280,000 have been hospitalized due to the flu, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC.

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[thadoggfather]

Things will definitely be resolved in 8 days

/s

 

[AlanShutko]

Things will definitely be resolved in 8 days /s

Better to give a date and extend it as needed than to have everyone checking in on a day by day basis. What this is really saying is "There's no way this will be fixed in fewer than 8 days."

 

[Breaking Good]

Depends on how you look at it. In one year for 2019 10,000 people died so if you divide that by 12 you get about 833 deaths per month and we had about 250 for February. The number of deaths for would need to at least triple for March to catch up with the Influenza Virus. Both are viruses and both kill people.

So far, 10,000 people have died and 180,000 people have been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC.

Flu shot better than last year, despite tough season for kids

At least 16,000 people have died and 280,000 have been hospitalized due to the flu, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC.

www.google.com

Those are combination pneumonia and influenza statistic. They’re not giving and accurate picture of the mortality rate of influenza.

 

[Rojaaemon]

The Apple store is a place that draws all kinds of people to stand next to each other for a period of time in a small and enclosed environment which helps spread viruses but this is not just Apple Stores. Starbucks,Mc Donald’s,Pizza Hut, and call kinds of restaurants do the same as well.

Yes, Apple Stores and cafes are problematic. More so than standing room only buses and trains carrying millions of commuters.

 

[warp9]

It's interesting how much focus this virus outbreak gets from WHO and the press. There must be a strong political side to this, because: In Germany alone, 20,000 people die --every year!-- of the Influenza virus - also known as "the flu". In the winter of 2018, around 80,000 people died of Influenza in the US (which was higher a toll than the "usual" 56,000 deaths every year). The Influenza virus was first isolated in 1901 -- so we had almost 120 years to study it. It's still constantly changing and killing people.

There's no such thing as a coronavirus vaccine, unlike the flu.

 

[Ed A.]

There are 2,700 McDonald's restaurants in China, over 100 GAP stores, and only 40 Apple Stores. It annoys me that Apple will take the hit for store closures in the stock market this coming Monday, but McD's and other US companies in China probably won't.

 

[manhattanboy]

Better to give a date and extend it as needed than to have everyone checking in on a day by day basis. What this is really saying is "There's no way this will be fixed in fewer than 80 days."

Fixed it for you.
Think about the airline travel bans... most of them have travel bans in place through April. That is about accurate for the resolution of a viral URI season. My little birdies inside the CDC tell me folks are working overtime to prevent spread to the US if for no other reason than to give time for the influenza season to die down. Already there are two strains circulating this year for flu (a B strain popped up first in addition to a now rising prevalence for the more stereotypical A strain); right now there are also numerous coronavirus strains circulating, but these are stereotypical and considered evolved for human pathogenicity unlike nCOv2019. In all likelihood nCOv2019 will make it here and cause a second "flu" season through March and April, but hopefully influenza will be done by then otherwise everyone with "flu" symptoms will have to be treated as possibly nCOv2019-infected.

 

[DocMultimedia]

Ugh. Media. Clickbait that has spread crazy fear. Yes, there are concerns whenever something new appears, but that is life/death. Does anyone here remember Legionnaires disease? Stuff happens. If you look at the data on this one people should stop going nuts. I have my PhD in Physics using radioactive beams for cancer treatment, so not a specialist on virus side of things...but I'm not worried. Just my opinion though.

 

[julianchan123]

The chinese practice of eating live/raw/cooked bats or other non-food animals needs to be concerned. There is no protective anxiety or common sense. The risks brought by this and other anti-human practices cannot be underestimated. The bad thing is some people would continue to trade with them and feed them. Not sure if they would regret about this in the future.

PS a certain moderator please do not again remove this post with the reason of hate speech. This is not hate speech. This is health info and common sense that everyone could have their opinion supported by facts.

 

[stylinexpat]

Yes, Apple Stores and cafes are problematic. More so than standing room only buses and trains carrying millions of commuters.

Buses and trains are bad too. Metro stations, malls, train stations, etc.. All bad

 

[stylinexpat]

This creates a good short opportunity on Apple’s stock and AMD’s stock as well. This is normally a busy time for Apple sales in China during Chinese New Years. With not only Apple retail shops closed many others in China are too so this would affect number of Apple products sold and this is not even taking into factor the manufacturing part as many manufacturers in China are pretty much on lockdown now so the manufacturers that supply Apple with parts are now pretty much shut down and we know how Apple works with inventory. This should be a no brainer “short term” short followed by a long term buy.

 

[Ronald Reagan]

From what I’ve been hearing, it’s no where near as lethal as SARS and MERS; about the same lethality as the normal flu.

 

[BuddyTronic]

More people died from the regular flu this week than have died from coronavirus all time. Way more. This is something to be mildly worried about due to some chance it spreads rapidly, but there are far worse realities.

The mortality of this virus is pretty low and only impacts those with weakened immune systems. This isn’t Ebola.

What you say is factually correct, but I disagree with the idea that this corona virus is no big deal. It could be a very big deal - there is a risk.

Assymptomatic transmission could lead to a horrible epidemic. Ebola was deadly, but by being so deadly it couldn’t multiply in enough hosts to become a huge pandemic. Sars also had attributes that fortunately caused it to die out.

watch the numbers in the next 7 days or so - we are all hoping for the best, but if there is a problem, we have to take into acccount that the problem could be invisible until the 2 -14 day incubation period passes for all possible people who might be affected and who have also been shedding the virus. It’s horrible to think of it, but I see too many armchair assurances and even egoist health professionals on TV telling us about risk.

we might see zero good news for many weeks to come. Hope I am wrong.
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From what I’ve been hearing, it’s no where near as lethal as SARS and MERS; about the same lethality as the normal flu.

would you believe that factor could make it more harmful? I’d encourage all to study it with an open mind. We don’t know much for sure yet. Use hand sanitizer

 

[Baymowe335]

What you say is factually correct, but I disagree with the idea that this corona virus is no big deal. It could be a very big deal - there is a risk.

Assymptomatic transmission could lead to a horrible epidemic. Ebola was deadly, but by being so deadly it couldn’t multiply in enough hosts to become a huge pandemic. Sars also had attributes that fortunately caused it to die out.

watch the numbers in the next 7 days or so - we are all hoping for the best, but if there is a problem, we have to take into acccount that the problem could be invisible until the 2 -14 day incubation period passes for all possible people who might be affected and who have also been shedding the virus. It’s horrible to think of it, but I see too many armchair assurances and even egoist health professionals on TV telling us about risk.

we will see zero good news for many weeks to come.
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would you believe that factor could make it more harmful? I’d encourage all to study it with an open mind.

That’s why I said mildly worried.

There is always something to worry about, but the severity of such worries should be considered.

 

[BuddyTronic]

That’s why I said mildly worried.

There is always something to worry about, but the severity of such worries should be considered.

Well I think you might be a numbers guy, do check out Sars numbers for it’s full term data of a couple years or whatever, and compare to this new coronavirus. This one, in just a short time, is signaling to me that we have potential for a big problem.

 

[Hieveryone]

Wow I would've imagined Apple's greedy self would require workers to cough, sneeze, and die before ceasing the sale of iPhones

 

[mag33]

I hope it won't delay iPhone SE2 production by much

 

[justperry]

Just published in th Lancet: Of the first 99 put into hospital, 11 are dead, 37 released, the rest sill in hospital. So that's 11% dead, possibly more.

Seems "normal", they didn't know yet what they had to deal with, a new virus.

1st death in The Philippines today, a Chinese man.

I hope it won't delay iPhone SE2 production by much

So, to you an iPhone is more important than the lives of people....

 

[orthorim]

Coronavirus is the most deadly for people who are bad at math 😂

I am not sure when people will realize they're constantly being lied to by the mass media... couldn't be more obvious.

 

[wchigo]

There are 2,700 McDonald's restaurants in China, over 100 GAP stores, and only 40 Apple Stores. It annoys me that Apple will take the hit for store closures in the stock market this coming Monday, but McD's and other US companies in China probably won't.

Well... they operate somewhat differently. I am currently living in Shenzhen and I was at a KFC yesterday. They only allow take-away orders and no people are allowed to eat in. Even upon entry, there was a staff member there to take my temperature before I was even able to tell her I was just there to pick up an order that was placed through the app.

I can see Mickey Ds and other fast food places doing the same, which can somewhat keep people to people exposure to a minimum, but I would imagine that’s harder to do at an Apple Store where people go in to browse, get technical assistance, etc.

 

[dlondon]

There are 2,700 McDonald's restaurants in China, over 100 GAP stores, and only 40 Apple Stores. It annoys me that Apple will take the hit for store closures in the stock market this coming Monday, but McD's and other US companies in China probably won't.

I think the greater risk for Apple whether it can continue to supply goods around the world, rather than the impact of retail sales in China during the store closures. Apple is heavily invested and reliant on manufacturing in China.

 

[I7guy]

Wow I would've imagined Apple's greedy self would require workers to cough, sneeze, and die before ceasing the sale of iPhones

What a surprise, safety and people’s lives being put first? Eh?

 

[Rojaaemon]

Buses and trains are bad too. Metro stations, malls, train stations, etc.. All bad

I was trying to be sarcastic. Regrets.

 

[jmpage2]

It's interesting how much focus this virus outbreak gets from WHO and the press. There must be a strong political side to this, because: In Germany alone, 20,000 people die --every year!-- of the Influenza virus - also known as "the flu". In the winter of 2018, around 80,000 people died of Influenza in the US (which was higher a toll than the "usual" 56,000 deaths every year). The Influenza virus was first isolated in 1901 -- so we had almost 120 years to study it. It's still constantly changing and killing people.

You don’t seem to understand very much and are relaying poor information.

This is a new airborne transmitted virus that mutated and is infecting humans. We don’t know much about it But what we do know is not good.

Patients are asymptomatic for five days but during those five days they are capable Of spreading the disease through simple airborne transmission.

There are about 3,000 reported cases of the disease and over 200 deaths. This is much deadlier than ”regular” influenza. 1 in 15 people who get the flu do not die from it.

Flu viruses mutate and evolve, we have a very good understanding about how this works with influenza and a very poor understanding of how this will play out with coronaviruses.

China initially was far more concerned about saving face than dealing with this outbreak.