Apple Closes As The Most Valuable Company In the World

[Hyper-X]

Well, in fact, my real issue was that I was trying to take you seriously. You know, as if what you said could have some merit.
My expectation was backing information. Was that such an unreasonable expectation?

The origin of this issue was yours, the point being you wanted sources and I provided you some. Like I said before I didn't write those articles, blogs and what not, I merely pointed to where I found the information I posted. So did I do what you asked? Yes, however perhaps not the way you wanted it.

Since you seem to like rephrasing, I'll rephrase the "conversation" up to this point:
You: "Steve Jobs said blahblah"
Me: "When? I in fact remember something else"
You: "Can't remember. Here, look at this cereal box."
Me: "... this cereal box has nothing to do with the subject!"
You: "You fanboy!"

I like rephrasing? I rephrased the ridiculous comment (mind you it was 1 rephrase) you made using an excerpt from the Bible to support your claims as to why I was wrong about "giving back".

You said it yourself that you're not a religious person, yet you quote something from the Bible as if you have any REAL credentials to represent the content you posted.

Ever heard of the "black swan problem"? You can't PROVE that something does NOT exist. You can only PROVE that it DOES exist, or SUSPECT that it does NOT. Do flying monkeys exist? No one can PROVE that they don't, we only know that nobody ever reported one.

What in the world are you talking about? At first maybe, just maybe... I thought perhaps you might've had some value for me to go into depth about what I posted but now you're just entertaining me with a flurry of off-the-wall comments.

By challenging the validity of the sources I provided, you are also indirectly calling the authors of the articles, liars. The burden isn't for me to prove to you whether it is or not, if it matters that much to you perhaps you could contact them and ask for more clarification on the source of their information.

So the same happens with Jobs' charity efforts (hell, I hate to sound like I am defending him). We only know that nobody has reported anything. That doesn't PROVE anything.

So your stance is just because it's not reported, what's been said about him and Apple is invalid. So all the different people writing stuff about his anti-charitable stance are all lies, they're making up stuff in plain view where internet surfers can find and read it, am I right? I believe that there's more than sufficient information around to provide a decent amount of merit to the claims.

And as a sidenote: I never said that Jobs did anything about charity; I can only point, as I already did in my first post, to what he said in some interview about 15 years ago. Here you have the link: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.02/jobs_pr.html . Look at the question "Could technology help by improving education?".

Your stance on my original post appear to be contrary. Why challenge it if you're not going to take a firm stance on the topic? Sounds wishy washy to me.

Your only certain credential up to now seems to be Name Caller.

Name caller? Did I use anything offensive? You are an Apple fanboy are you not? Don't feel bad if you are, be proud of it. I see nothing wrong with supporting something you really love and believe in. I just used the term to identify a common trait of those who tend to fall into the category of a fanboy... call it tunnel vision perhaps.

I'd prefer something like "what you said is so wrong that I can even retort by quoting the ****ing Bible, maaaan".

Heh, in fact it was SO wrong that you even edited your post to erase that quote...

I'm in no position to be quoting material from the Bible as I lack the proper credentials to be using in a manner to justify my point, that's as real as it gets.

I rethought my decision to comment to your Bible post because religion is a touchy topic, and I'm not specialized enough to use the Bible's content to support a discussion here. Not sure what you wanted to achieve out of that except for what I said earlier, which was to simply get into a pissing match.

Think about this when you spurt out stuff about matters you lack credentials for. Since you admitted that you're not religious, I have no need to believe anything you said about your interpretation of a passage from the Bible which you are not an expert at is the correct interpretation, is contrary to what I said, supports your claim about how I'm somehow wrong and/or otherwise valid in any degree.

I would highly suggest that you avoid using anything regarding religion in a news discussion forum.

 

[mijail]

Hyper-X, you write so much to get to nothing...

Look, my goal was to get that quote by Jobs that you said you read somewhere "on the internet". After all, I needed (all of!) 1 minute and 4 words in Google to demonstrate that Jobs said something which contradicts you. Meanwhile, you prefer to go on and on on tangentials than to show any fact.

Since you seem unable to provide the quote, I guess I'd better stop here.

You see, I like conversations when they allow me to learn something new; you seem to prefer them when no one contradicts your punditry. And since we both are going to be unsatisfied, maybe we'll better leave it now.

Regards.

 

[BaldiMac]

Name caller? Did I use anything offensive? You are an Apple fanboy are you not?

I like how you pretend that you didn't mean it to be offensive and belittling. Because expecting reasonable evidence before making accusations is irrational tunnel vision.