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Tim "Penny Pincher Cook"- Siri is ass so let's save some money and continue to say it is "coming soon" but let's distract the masses from this by adding some glass-like shades in the OS and call it "revolutionary." Also, don't forget to talk about how much courage it took to change the appearance.
 
Tim "Penny Pincher Cook"- Siri is ass so let's save some money and continue to say it is "coming soon" but let's distract the masses from this by adding some glass-like shades in the OS and call it "revolutionary." Also, don't forget to talk about how much courage it took to change the appearance.
well it takes some courage to change a trusted thing. Just ask Sonos
 
Ugh. Yuck. Bleh. They better make sure that abomination can be turned off.
If you are to redesign an UI, you do it to enhance useability. Making round icons and drag the translucent-slider a bit upwards is not a redesign, it is at best, a "skin". This feels like a desperate attempt from a company that has no idea what to do next.
 
There is no such thing as Sirigate. Only a few certain people are making a big deal about a missed deadline. It is better for Apple to make it right than pull a Google and release something before it is ready.
If it wasn't a big deal, apple wouldn't be scrubbing their website/ads of the "new and improved" siri. The issue isn't that it's "delayed" it is that they clearly showed a demo of something that wasn't even real.
 
Ugh. Yuck. Bleh. They better make sure that abomination can be turned off.
If you are to redesign an UI, you do it to enhance useability. Making round icons and drag the translucent-slider a bit upwards is not a redesign, it is at best, a "skin". This feels like a desperate attempt from a company that has no idea what to do next.
There has literally been no actual reports that the icons are going round, just speculation.
Gurman has said absolutely nothing about round icons, Prossor has actively said that *won’t* happen.
In fact, I’d argued there’s more evidence against it, seeing as macOS switched to the squircle icons exclusively just a couple years ago.
 
There is no such thing as Sirigate. Only a few certain people are making a big deal about a missed deadline. It is better for Apple to make it right than pull a Google and release something before it is ready.
I have no problem with it coming later, and I don’t even think it’s fair to call it a “missed deadline” either since they never really set a deadline. But I do have an issue with them announcing it so long before it was ready.
 
Would it be cool if they give it a VisionPro mode. Hold-up the iPhone and you see the icons floating around in the room. Touch the icon and the app opens.
 
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Would it be cool if they give it a VisionPro mode. Hold-up the iPhone and you see the icons floating around in the room. Touch the icon and the app opens.

Until they figure out how to make a Vision Pro more people want to buy and use, it's a waste of resources to implement stuff like that.
 
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If it wasn't a big deal, apple wouldn't be scrubbing their website/ads of the "new and improved" siri. The issue isn't that it's "delayed" it is that they clearly showed a demo of something that wasn't even real.
Wasn't it reported that the feature(s) existed but it was not as accurate as Apple wanted. It was something like 70-80% correct.
 
One thing I can't understand is that I always thought that in the future if there is gonna be a redesign it will be for paradigm shift like when MS went from windows CE style to Windows phone 7, like invent entirely new concept how we use our phones. Yet MS went too ahead of time that as it seems even in 2025 we still did not figure out that there is something else then just icons.
I mean it doesn't matter if you make them rounded or squircle, it's still same old stuff just with different shape.


And now you're telling me there is no one in the world who is able to bring something new not even in bilion dollar company?
So we are supposed to be enthusiastic with slightly less flat but still flat design with more glass then it was in iOS7, is that it?
If so don't even bother. Or if you do, don't mention it, it's still the same design with different skin at least make sure you wont make it too form over function with too many redundant taps to open various submenus where there weren't any before.
 
They were having a great time in First Class on the Titanic that was sink proof ….. until it wasn’t.

Apple used to be first class….. Now they are grasping at straws like the swimmers in the ocean as they seem to be unable to make a “clean with no bugs” operating system.

Take the time to do it right or don’t do it at all!
 
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It’s about time for a new direction. Let’s get away from the white, gray, flat, and soulless designs. Being back some color and whimsy. Apple needs to get back to its roots.
I agree! We've had this flat design for long enough now. It was introduced more than a decade ago with admittedly many iterations over the years but the main graphic design language has stayed the same. I want more color in the OS!
 
I'm mainly worried this will result in poorer accessibility and usability because it "looks cool".

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Eh, we'll live...

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Tim "Penny Pincher Cook"- Siri is ass so let's save some money and continue to say it is "coming soon" but let's distract the masses from this by adding some glass-like shades in the OS and call it "revolutionary." Also, don't forget to talk about how much courage it took to change the appearance.
I’m not sure what is more surprising about this: thinking that they came up with a total redesign in 6 months, or thinking that they’re doing a risky UI change to cover some controversy.
 
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longhorn was MS's answer to Aqua in OS X
Which MS apparently answered by having Ballmer run around their campus yelling "Transparency! Transparency! Transparency!".

Transparency is like animation and sound, a UI seasoning to use sparingly and not a "More is better" thing to dump on by the gallon like MS did.

Apple is very good with the subtle, and hope they keep it here.
 
A new design change is always welcome. It's going to be looking a lot more glass-like in appearance. But for some reason, I don't think Apple was thinking ahead. How are they going to chance the design of the lovely squared, rounded, grey-colored piece of cloth, aka the Apple cleaning cloth?

You are going to love it: A glass-like appearance, Apple cleaning cloth V2.0 now working in conjunction with iOS 19.
 
I feel like people who say this have rose tinted glasses about snow leopard.
They remember the good parts, but not the awful awful trade-offs that came with it.
For example, the first two versions of snow leopard had a pretty showstopping bug, where, if you logged out of your main user account, all of your data could possibly be completely corrupted.
Snow leopard also, at launch, required a computer that was either three years old or newer. Even if you purchase a power Macintosh G5 in August 2006 while they were still being sold, by August 2009 you were out of luck.
Not to mention, Apple‘s statement that it had “zero new features” was just disingenuous, in fact I’d say compared to more modern releases like Monterey, Sonoma and Sequoia Snow leopard was feature packed.
A completely rewritten finder, completely rewritten QuickTime, a completely redesigned Safari, new Dock behavior, a scrambling of system preferences… if you go back, you’ll quickly find that it wasn’t as “zero new features” as you remember.



“Well, let's look at the release notes for the 10.6.1 update:

  • compatibility with some Sierra Wireless 3G modems
  • an issue that might cause DVD playback to stop unexpectedly
  • some printer compatibility drivers not appearing properly in the add printer browser
  • an issue that might make it difficult to remove an item from the Dock
  • instances where automatic account setup in Mail might not work
  • an issue where pressing cmd-opt-t in Mail brings up the special characters menu instead of moving a message
  • Motion 4 becoming unresponsive
It looks like the so-called "bug fix update" itself needed a number of bug fixes. How about the 10.6.2 update?

  • an issue that might cause your system to logout unexpectedly
  • a graphics distortion in Safari Top Sites
  • Spotlight search results not showing Exchange contacts
  • a problem that prevented authenticating as an administrative user
  • issues when using NTFS and WebDAV file servers
  • the reliability of menu extras
  • an issue with the 4-finger swipe gesture
  • an issue that causes Mail to quit unexpectedly when setting up an Exchange server
  • Address Book becoming unresponsive when editing
  • a problem adding images to contacts in Address Book
  • an issue that prevented opening files downloaded from the Internet
  • Safari plug-in reliability
  • general reliability improvements for iWork, iLife, Aperture, Final Cut Studio, MobileMe, and iDisk
  • an issue that caused data to be deleted when using a guest account
Wow, that's a lot of bug fixes! They saved the best release note for last: "an issue that caused data to be deleted when using a guest account". This data loss bug was infamous at the time.

We're not done. Here's 10.6.3:

  • improve the reliability and compatibility of QuickTime X
  • address compatibility issues with OpenGL-based applications
  • address an issue that causes background message colors to display incorrectly in Mail
  • resolve an issue that prevented files with the # or & characters in their names from opening in Rosetta applications
  • resolve an issue that prevented files from copying to Windows file servers
  • improve performance of Logic Pro 9 and Main Stage 2 when running in 64-bit mode
  • improve sleep and wake reliability when using Bonjour wake on demand
  • address a color issue in iMovie with HD content
  • improve printing reliability
  • resolve issues with recurring events in iCal when connected to an Exchange server
  • improve the reliability of 3rd party USB input devices
  • fix glowing, stuck, or dark pixels when viewing video from the iMac (Late 2009) built-in iSight camera
And 10.6.4:

  • resolve an issue that causes the keyboard or trackpad to become unresponsive
  • resolve an issue that may prevent some Adobe Creative Suite 3 applications from opening
  • address issues copying, renaming, or deleting files on SMB file servers
  • improve reliability of VPN connections
  • resolve a playback issue in DVD Player when using Good Quality deinterlacing
  • resolve an issue editing photos with iPhoto or Aperture in full screen view
  • improve compatibility with some braille displays
Hopefully you're starting to get my point. Snow Leopard was not a bug fix release. In fact, Snow Leopard was quite buggy, and Mac OS X 10.6.0 was certainly much buggier than Mac OS X 10.5.8, released a few weeks prior.”
With the benefit of hindsight a lot of people were comparing Snow Leopard to Lion. Lion was probably even worse when it first came out. It felt slower. Most people at the time were running MacOS on a mechanical drive and performance-wise even later releases of Lion never got back up to where Snow Leopard was. That’s where this lore about Snow Leopard performance and stability comes from.

The truth about Snow Leopard? Yes, it took up less storage space, but the real reason for the ‘optimizations’ was to cut out PowerPC Macs and force those users to buy new Intel ones. A competent PR department has a way to spin a bad thing and make it sound good - and in this case it worked exactly as planned.
 
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