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This whole situation is so frustrating and really worries me for the long term future of Apple overall.

A great company needs to be able to better read the room at this point and adjust accordingly.

Just endlessly digging in on their iOS App Store distribution and revenue collection monopoly is not the path for the future, nor is it forward looking and it sure as hell isn't responsive to the overall vibe around this topic around the world from consumers, governments and many developers.

Open up and LEAD please Apple.

Show us you're more than just a rent collection operation.
Apple will be closing the App Store as you see it now. It’s called a store for a reason. It was developed to be a profit center. Once it becomes a charity they will stop investing billions into. They are a public company and it can’t justify the same investment if the Profit is compromised.

Look for Arcade and Apple One to expand exponentially with licensed hundreds of partnerships only. The App Store will be dead in the water with all the investment and innovation going into Apple’s one price all you can eat platforms.
 
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The big thing people are missing in this whole discussion is Apple will make the money somehow and developers will get screwed in the end. If apple is forced to allow 3rd party stores the cost for the Dev license will be based on revenue of the company, a very common practice.
Not if the right to grant a license is controlled not by Apple but a government branch, like utility.
 
You can't demand McDonald's start selling your own food products in their stores. What's the difference?
The difference is that certain consumers are limited to only buying products from one supplier, and that limitation is a wholly artificial one introduced by said supplier. The difference is a pretty gaping one. The only way it would even be remotely comparable would be if you put it in the context of a completely ridiculous of a made up situation where consumers have no choice but to buy products from McDonald's or face some other inconvenience compromise or have to make some other, longer-term buying decision.

Like, maybe if McDonald's made a deal with the city of Chicago such that they were the only restaurant allowed to have Drive-Thru windows. Then people who live in Chicago would have to either buy food from McDonald's if they want the convenience of a Drive-Thru, or they would have to go into a restaurant, or they would have to go somewhere outside of Chicago. Or they could just move out of Chicago and somewhere else.

Either way, such a scenario would absolutely provide a legal justification for McDonald's to have to sell food from competitors.
 
Apple will be closing the App Store as you see it now. It’s called a store for a reason. It was developed to be a profit center. Once it becomes a charity they will stop investing billions into. They are a public company and it can’t justify the same investment if the Profit is compromised.
Why do you think that the App store would cease being profitable if Apple allowed third-party App stores to exist or allow apps to link to third-party payment processors? Is the benefit provided by Apple's store so miniscule that people would just completely stop using it if they were no longer forced to do so? Because if that's the case, then I don't think anyone would actually care if the App store completely closes, now would they?
 
App Stores should just be centrally managed by the state, like utility.
Why even have a store. The state can decide what Apps I need.

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The difference is that certain consumers are limited to only buying products from one supplier, and that limitation is a wholly artificial one introduced by said supplier. The difference is a pretty gaping one. The only way it would even be remotely comparable would be if you put it in the context of a completely ridiculous of a made up situation where consumers have no choice but to buy products from McDonald's or face some other inconvenience compromise or have to make some other, longer-term buying decision.

Like, maybe if McDonald's made a deal with the city of Chicago such that they were the only restaurant allowed to have Drive-Thru windows. Then people who live in Chicago would have to either buy food from McDonald's if they want the convenience of a Drive-Thru, or they would have to go into a restaurant, or they would have to go somewhere outside of Chicago. Or they could just move out of Chicago and somewhere else.

Either way, such a scenario would absolutely provide a legal justification for McDonald's to have to sell food from competitors.
The issue is that customers aren't limited to one supplier unless you completely redefine the experience such that you only include purchases of apps from people who already own iPhones. At that point, yes. This idea that you get to vote twice with your dollars continues to allude me. The choice to use the App Store exclusively was decided at POS when you purchased the device.

Just like when you go to Mcdonald's you have already chosen to buy their food. You can't demand Pepsi or Coke (I don't know what they sell anymore) when you go to get a refill. You already agreed to the options when you paid for the combo meal.
 
Ah yes, "right in line with the competition," where Apple has always been when innovating and performing at their best...

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Even if they say so themselves.:apple:
 
Apple too late. The regulatory bodies have already decided the ios app store belongs to the people. RIP.
The regulatory bodies are complete idiots. They don't know anything about Technology. Apple Made iOS and the Appstore. It is Their store and Pipo who are want to distribute their Apps over Apples made AppStore they shoud give apple a commission. As i sayd before the Commission apple gets are used to Keep The Servers running and to improve thair technologies. Nothing Pays for it self. If i would open a Store in town and Allow Some People to sell their Products in My Store i would also want to get a Commission from that.
 
So the gist of the report is if it wasn’t for third party developers the App Store would suck?
If memory serves, the Windows Mobile app situation sucks even when there are third party developers. And Microsoft is 'developers, developers, developers' ...
 
But that’s not the Apple we have. The vast majority of Apples profits come from it’s innovative new products.
Which is reflected by (a quick Internet search) the 23b spent on R&D in 2021. Doesn't look like rent collecting to me.
 
Talk about embarrassing. Apple is only one company among thousands upon thousands in its app store. NO SHÌT more money is being made by all others combined. That doesn't excuse Apple's corrupt behavior. For example, their presentation of OTHER companies' products if you search for a different one's company name verbatim. Apple claims that publisher name is one of the top three criteria for app search, but you can search for a publisher's name spelled out exactly and you won't find their product in the first 200 listings and beyond. Yes, 200 listings.... screen after screen, which no user would undertake anyway.

Apple overplayed its hand with its ever-more-disgraceful alternate-payment-system restrictions. They didn't have to go there, and now they're going to get smacked down by legislators around the world who barely understand WTF an app store is... costing them a shìtload of money. GJ, Tim Cook. Dumb-ass.
 
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Talk about embarrassing. Apple is only one company among thousands upon thousands in its app store. NO SHÌT more money is being made by all others combined.

Apple overplayed its hand with its ever-more-disgraceful alternate-payment-system restrictions. They didn't have to go there, and now they're going to get smacked down by legislators around the world who barely understand WTF an app store is... costing them a shìtload of money. GJ, Tim Cook. Dumb-ass.
I don’t understand this idea that Apple would be exempt from regulation if only they’d voluntarily made changes in the first place.
 
Guess this is the parable of the reed and the oak.

Apple is this great oak that has fought the world who demanded a more open App Store for the longest time imaginable. Not for the benefit of consumers, but the developers who are unhappy with Apple inserting themselves between them and the end users.

This is a wall I have little interest in tearing down but well, nothing (good) lasts forever.

And as the story goes, maybe this great oak is destined to fall one day. But I am still happy that Apple stuck to their guns and fought the good fight.

Viva la Apple.
 
What would there be to investigate if these companies weren't acting anti-competitively in the first place? There would be no changes for regulators to force.
That makes no sense. They aren’t acting anti-competitively now. Regulation changes the law to make the current behaviour anti-competitive only after the law has changed.

The only way for Apple to not have to change anything after new laws come into effect is if they’d already made the exact changes the law requires. In which case they are in the same position with our without the law being in place.

It's not like if Apple had made some token gestures a few years ago (which in fact they did) that regulators would suddenly look the other way and stop taking any action! American politicians might be bought and sold like that by European ones are definitely not. The regulation is/was going to happen regardless of what Apple did.
 
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If Apple had changed their behavior, they wouldn’t be under such scrutiny. Same with some of the other tech companies.
Incorrect. As an example, if nobody sped ever, there would still be speeding laws in effect. This legislation would be coming anyway to prevent new future "gatekeeper" from being that. Except in the future world the future "gatekeeper" will be much smarter to dodge this crap legislation.
 
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