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I betcha we see "Photos Pro", a reskinned Aperture eventually!

Maybe so...but Apple is not being forthcoming, and in the meantime leaving people with limited options:

1) Use Aperture until you technically cannot any longer (maybe it won't work with the updated OS, maybe new cameras will not longer have RAW support, whatever)

2) Switch to Lightroom or another competing product, which is not a simple matter of opening your massive library in a new program
 
Is there a way to save the Aperture installer like a CD? Since I've paid for the Software, I think I should be allowed to keep it for possible clean-installing as long as I'd like. I'm worried about that scenario, if it's not going to be available for re-download from the App Store. :)

Don't quote me but.... I assume you will still be able to download it from MAS if you previously purchased it. It will be removed from the store and not available for sale.

However it is probably wise to keep a backup just in case. I think you can copy and paste the App to an external drive or burn it to CD. Then when you do a clean install you can paste the app to your application folder. When you open it for the first time it may ask you to enter your Apple ID and password.

I just hope that Aperture will continue to run on future versions of OSX for as long as possible.
 
I have been an avid Aperture user and fanatic for many years and like many here, kept waiting and waiting and hoping that Apple would finally give us Aperture X (or whatever). The new Mac Pros got released, I thought for sure, now is the time Apple will give us a really updated release of Aperture. But instead we get a picture of Lightroom on the screen of the new Mac Pro. Surely, Apple would release a significant update of Aperture at the next big media event, and we got a new rMBP and an Apple Watch, but (sigh), no new Aperture. Instead we got Photos which we were told was what iPhoto and Aperture would now be merged into. And very little info. I hanged on with determined hope but finally came to the realization that Photos was probably not going to cut it for my needs and began to look at Lightroom as an alternative. I already had an Abobe CC subscription for Lr + PS, so as of Jan 1, 2015, I figured I'd give Lr a serious look and start importing all of my photos to it. Now over the past few days from multiple sources (Macworld, Derrick Story and even the Photosexpert AKA the Aperture Expert) the writing is clearly on the wall. The Aperture we all know and love is truly dead and will probably vanish once any of us upgrades to the next OS. So Lr it is for me and the move is now permanent. I used an App called Aperture Export rather than Adobe's Aperture export set up. This allows you to bake your post-processed photos into JPEGs or TIFFs and transfer them with the changes you made and also keeps your file structure intact. Flag ratings, which don't transfer in either system, are keyworded automatically. My entire Aperture Library, both referenced and managed are now in Lr. I have now used Lr for about 4 weeks and I have adjusted quite quickly it. I will wait for Photos to see what it is like and may eventually import my Aperture Library into it but not right away. I'll wait until the next OS update from Apple when Aperture can no longer be used. I will probably use Photos as a means to share only the photos I want to with my family and friends, very much like Trey Ratciff now does with iPhoto. Each one of us has our own unique needs, so I can see where Photos would be very much a great app for many. But for me, sadly, it ain't Aperture and it may take years before it comes close or surpasses it..IF Photos ever does. So each of us will decide what to do for what we think is best for our needs. I am not here to flog one system over another. But, IMHO, Apple is more interested in the vast iPhone, iPad users who take photographs and a system that can be seen on all of their hardware platforms. It is the right BUSINESS decision for them. Apple didn't become the richest Corporation in the world by worrying about the few who use and used Aperture. Time to face reality.
 
Don't quote me but.... I assume you will still be able to download it from MAS if you previously purchased it. It will be removed from the store and not available for sale.

However it is probably wise to keep a backup just in case. I think you can copy and paste the App to an external drive or burn it to CD. Then when you do a clean install you can paste the app to your application folder. When you open it for the first time it may ask you to enter your Apple ID and password.

I just hope that Aperture will continue to run on future versions of OSX for as long as possible.

The thing is, I have messed up my MAS purchases page when I kept switching between the Austrian and UK store for years (since I have credit cards in both countries). Now that purchases page is almost empty, only shows a couple random apps and - of course - none of the "big", important purchases like Adobe Photoshop Elements or Aperture.
I've figured out that I could still re-download them by clicking on "Buy Now" on the product page, then an info box would pop up and say something along the lines of "You already own this app" and let me re-download it for free.

Hence, if Aperture is going to be removed from the product pages, I'm really in a bad spot. :confused:

If I just copy and paste the App to an external drive, I won't copy and paste the installer though, so I'm not sure if this will be sufficient. I'll try if this works, will report back! :)
 
May be a dumb question, but what does this mean for those of us who will keep using it, and possibly upgrading to a new machine in say 6 months. If they remove it form the app store, how do we get the latest version. I have a boxed copy of 2.0 I think, but I've since moved on to updating through the app store.

It says in the articles that those who have purchased it can still download it. So until that changes you should be fine. Also, you could restore from your back up. You ARE backing things up, right?
 
No, iWorks *WAS* fantastic - The current iWork is a piece of worthless junk.

Horses for courses

Works great for me. I can make documents wherever I am even on a browser all iClouded up and does everything I need it to.

More complicated stuff I do in inDesign.
 
If your Mac can see the NAS drive, why wouldn't the Photos app? I would think you would have to mount a volume, though.

NAS drives are not really supported with iPhoto or Aperature - they only allow storing the database on fixed drives. There are work arounds but it's not OOTB.
 
It's not going to delete itself from your hard drive. It still does exactly what it's always done and what I needed it to do, so I plan to keep using it.
It's not going to delete itself, but it won't receive updates to support future cameras, so we won't be able to open RAWs. :eek::
 
It says in the articles that those who have purchased it can still download it. So until that changes you should be fine. Also, you could restore from your back up. You ARE backing things up, right?

Nope. Never do backups. Can't even imagine why anyone would. :rolleyes:
 
It's not going to delete itself, but it won't receive updates to support future cameras, so we won't be able to open RAWs. :eek::

I always thought that the raw compatibility was a feature at the operating system level, rather than something that is app-specific.
 
Yes, good idea! And Lamborghini should give the Countach away for free too since this car is not in production anymore....I am sure they have still some in storage....

For example... let's take Panic, You know Panic right? http://www.panic.com you know they make cool stuff like Transmit (probably the best ftp client out there), Oh and CandyBar that cool utility that used to let you change the icons to something else and the dock and all that cool stuff and Unison which was a really cool Newsgroup client for Mac.

Well it happens to be that Panic, decided not to pursue Candybar and Unison, anymore because I don't know Caleb Sasser is busy making video game music and it doesn't fit their schedule, so instead of retiring the software and SCREWING everyone who had bought it... they decided to not support it any more, and release it for *FREE*. They also did one quick update and off they went. Free and everyone can download it.

Unison - http://www.panic.com/blog/the-future-of-unison/
Candybar - http://www.panic.com/blog/candybar-m...on-and-beyond/

GASP! The concept... I know it's soooo rare. What is Cabel Sasser thinking...

So yeah Apple could do the same thing. At least everyone can decide when they can move on to another product and give new life to something dead. So you know maybe Lamborghini being a CAR company doesn't do that, but quite honestly Aperture is not a Lamborghini and we are talking about software here, so get a grip.
 
For example... let's take Panic, You know Panic right? http://www.panic.com you know they make cool stuff like Transmit (probably the best ftp client out there), Oh and CandyBar that cool utility that used to let you change the icons to something else and the dock and all that cool stuff and Unison which was a really cool Newsgroup client for Mac.

Well it happens to be that Panic, decided not to pursue Candybar and Unison, anymore because I don't know Caleb Sasser is busy making video game music and it doesn't fit their schedule, so instead of retiring the software and SCREWING everyone who had bought it... they decided to not support it any more, and release it for *FREE*. They also did one quick update and off they went. Free and everyone can download it.

Unison - http://www.panic.com/blog/the-future-of-unison/
Candybar - http://www.panic.com/blog/candybar-m...on-and-beyond/

GASP! The concept... I know it's soooo rare. What is Cabel Sasser thinking...

So yeah Apple could do the same thing. At least everyone can decide when they can move on to another product and give new life to something dead. So you know maybe Lamborghini being a CAR company doesn't do that, but quite honestly Aperture is not a Lamborghini and we are talking about software here, so get a grip.

BS! How can you screw someone "who bought" something, by NOT giving it away for free to someone who did not buy it????
And do I understand you right, you think software should be given away for free, since it is not a good you can touch? Cool let us place someone in your living room over night, when you do not use it (I guess you have a bedroom to sleep in), you paid the rent anyway and don't use it... I think that is a neat idea (for communists or leeches, but not for normal people).
 
All this hysteria is frightening. Obviously, Photos won't have the same capabilities as Aperture. But I think Extensions are going to do a whole lot more for Photos than Aperture ever did. It will take some time, but I think Extensions will be very powerful.

And the benefit for developers is that they will have a WAY bigger audience than they did with Aperture.

In the short term, Photos won't replace Aperture. In the long term, I think it will.
 
All this hysteria is frightening. Obviously, Photos won't have the same capabilities as Aperture. But I think Extensions are going to do a whole lot more for Photos than Aperture ever did. It will take some time, but I think Extensions will be very powerful.

And the benefit for developers is that they will have a WAY bigger audience than they did with Aperture.

In the short term, Photos won't replace Aperture. In the long term, I think it will.

Maybe. I would be curious as to see stats on those that get software for "free" and purchase plug ins vs those that buy software and purchase plug ins.

I don't think the (mobile) app market is a good test as costs are low(er).
 
I'm still going to keep using Aperture.
New Mac user here - can I find Aperture anywhere - I missed downloading it by two days and really wanted to use it???
[doublepost=1511568474][/doublepost]so where I am totally new to mac and photos - probably should just stick with learning photos and then when the developers come up with add ons for photos - from Aperture - I can move to those???? Right????? Confused
 
New Mac user here - can I find Aperture anywhere - I missed downloading it by two days and really wanted to use it???
[doublepost=1511568474][/doublepost]so where I am totally new to mac and photos - probably should just stick with learning photos and then when the developers come up with add ons for photos - from Aperture - I can move to those???? Right????? Confused
When you had Aperture previously like I did, you can re-download it from the Mac App store later; for instance I moved to a new Mac. If you didn't have it before, it won't be available in the store. It's only available by "unofficial" means from other sites, which is potentially dangerous.
Plugins for Photos is not a replacement for what Aperture was or can do.
However, since Aperture is essentially a front-end to Apple's RAW engine which is built into the operating system, a lot of the power is still there, including RAW support for new cameras and inbuilt lens profile corrections. The former Aperture lead developers left Apple and set up Gentlemen Coders (https://gentlemencoders.com/) and released an app called Raw Power on the App Store (both for Mac and iOS), a little app which uses the OSX RAW engine for editing RAW files, both as a standalone app and as an extension to Photos. It still doesn't have all the features Aperture did, like the cataloging and metadata tagging etc, but it gives you access to some of the advanced Raw editing powers hidden in the OS, in a way only someone familiar with the inner workings can, like the former Aperture team. If you have RAW files in Photos, it is well worth getting to play around with, and even as a standalone app it is a great little app. You can of course edit jpegs as well, you just don't have the same editing latitude such as for recovering highlight and shadow detail, which is thrown away in jpg files.
 
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When you had Aperture previously like I did, you can re-download it from the Mac App store later; for instance I moved to a new Mac. If you didn't have it before, it won't be available in the store. It's only available by "unofficial" means from other sites, which is potentially dangerous.
Plugins for Photos is not a replacement for what Aperture was or can do.
However, since Aperture is essentially a front-end to Apple's RAW engine which is built into the operating system, a lot of the power is still there, including RAW support for new cameras and inbuilt lens profile corrections. The former Aperture lead developers left Apple and set up Gentlemen Coders (https://gentlemencoders.com/) and released an app called Raw Power on the App Store (both for Mac and iOS), a little app which uses the OSX RAW engine for editing RAW files, both as a standalone app and as an extension to Photos. It still doesn't have all the features Aperture did, like the cataloging and metadata tagging etc, but it gives you access to some of the advanced Raw editing powers hidden in the OS, in a way only someone familiar with the inner workings can, like the former Aperture team. If you have RAW files in Photos, it is well worth getting to play around with, and even as a standalone app it is a great little app. You can of course edit jpegs as well, you just don't have the same editing latitude such as for recovering highlight and shadow detail, which is thrown away in jpg files.

Photos actually got a boost in High Sierra, with additional features and flexibility. It's closer to Aperture than it was a couple years ago. It's still missing some features, though; if you're a professional you're better off using different software, and only exporting your finished work to Photos so you have it available on your devices. Also, Photos has some performance issues on my iMac. It's an older machine (2012) though, so I shouldn't be too surprised.

I really do miss Aperture; I'm not sure why Apple had to kill it. They could have easily kept Aperture around as a more premium version of Photos, sharing the same library the same way iPhoto and Aperture shared libraries.
 
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