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Am I the only one who wants to see the Game Center API's retasked as a business collaboration engine?
 
Seriously. This phone is such a joke now.

4.1 doesn't look like it'll help much either. I think I've reset the damn thing 10 times in the last few days. Anyday now, Apple, with that white 4.

4.1 does help a lot, actually.
 
Haha, I went in and registered about 15 names within minutes of the time that 9to5mac reported the name reset.

I've got all kinds of options now...top quality too. Someday Game Center will be the xBox Live of mobile gaming. I'll give it two or three years. Sales of iOS devices are exploding, and thousands of games will eventually support it. I don't know all the details, but I hope that the API is robust enough to support more than leaderboards. Some matchmaking would be killer.

Now that Halo Reach is about to launch and Bungie is once again an independent studio, I'm looking forward to their triumphant return to Macs. Didn't Halo debut at Macworld '99 during the Steve Jobs keynote? I expect their next game, without Microsoft license restrictions, will enable them to release for OS X and maybe, just maybe, they will take a crack at an iOS version? I'd easily pay $30-40 on any game they release for iOS. But then again, I also have my $150 copy of Halo Reach Legendary Edition coming in the mail. So I might be a fanboy. Actually yes, yes I am. I might even be as excited about that game as I was the original iPhone launch. That's saying a lot too. These are good times to be a gamer / photographer / graphic designer mac nerd. Well, next summer will be better. Quad-core MBP FTW! Then I can upgrade this piece and maybe get an iPhone 4g on Verizon.
 
Seriously. This phone is such a joke now.

4.1 doesn't look like it'll help much either. I think I've reset the damn thing 10 times in the last few days. Anyday now, Apple, with that white 4.

First of all: Slapping 4.1 on my iPhone 3G made it work like a charm again. It´s a major improvement over 4.0. Don´t believe all the bad press, Apple did a marvelous job on bringing the iPhone 3G back to life. You should try and see for yourself. They screwed up with 4.0, but now everything is fine again.

Ad Game Center:
As a consumer i don´t worry about not having Game Center on the 3G, i´ll just pass on all these Game Center Only games, no biggie. I guess it looks different from a developer standpoint though. Will you support OpenFeint or rather use GameCenter thus restricting your market?

Then again, how important is social gaming anyway? I can imagine it´s nice to have for a game of chess or a popular FPS (think Quake Live), but in the fast paced World of the AppStore your usual casual game does get old after 2 weeks with hardly anyone talking about it anymore after this time. This is a shame really and one of the major drawbacks of the App Store.

Will Game Center be able to counter this trend? We will see.
 
Poor iPhone 3G

Man am I glade I got my iP4 my 3G was having "issues" with iOS4 but looks like it's missing out again with game center but if it can't handle it Apple would make a mistake adding it when they know it would struggle,
IMO they've done good by not adding it to the 3G as all 3G'ers would just complain about it struggling now they can just complain they don't have it lol

R.I.P iPhone 3G
 
Man am I glade I got my iP4 my 3G was having "issues" with iOS4 but looks like it's missing out again with game center but if it can't handle it Apple would make a mistake adding it when they know it would struggle,
IMO they've done good by not adding it to the 3G as all 3G'ers would just complain about it struggling now they can just complain they don't have it lol

R.I.P iPhone 3G

I´ve ordered my iPhone4 aswell, mainly because my provider was granting me a deal i couldn´t refuse. Without this sweet deal I wouldn´t have ordered this phone at this point though.

Anyways, Fact is Apple screwed up with iOS 4.0, yet they have fixed the mess in iOS 4.1. I can only say it again, iPhone 3G is working fine again on iOS 4.1, no matter what the media is trying to tell you. Don´t believe everything you read on the internet. I´m quite sure it could handle the Game Center aswell, if Apple would be willing to include it.
 
Haha, I went in and registered about 15 names within minutes of the time that 9to5mac reported the name reset.

I've got all kinds of options now...top quality too. Someday Game Center will be the xBox Live of mobile gaming. I'll give it two or three years. Sales of iOS devices are exploding, and thousands of games will eventually support it. I don't know all the details, but I hope that the API is robust enough to support more than leaderboards. Some matchmaking would be killer.

Now that Halo Reach is about to launch and Bungie is once again an independent studio, I'm looking forward to their triumphant return to Macs. Didn't Halo debut at Macworld '99 during the Steve Jobs keynote? I expect their next game, without Microsoft license restrictions, will enable them to release for OS X and maybe, just maybe, they will take a crack at an iOS version? I'd easily pay $30-40 on any game they release for iOS. But then again, I also have my $150 copy of Halo Reach Legendary Edition coming in the mail. So I might be a fanboy. Actually yes, yes I am. I might even be as excited about that game as I was the original iPhone launch. That's saying a lot too. These are good times to be a gamer / photographer / graphic designer mac nerd. Well, next summer will be better. Quad-core MBP FTW! Then I can upgrade this piece and maybe get an iPhone 4g on Verizon.

Halo on the iphone. Cute. You can't be a real gamer. Halo requires a tactile controller to get into the game. Touch screen controllers are for people who like to get fragged.
 
2nd gen iPod Touch was significnatly faster.

arn

Well, it was clocked at 512ishMHz versus 412ishMHz. For me, the Cortex A8 is slugish, and the 512MHz ARM 11 was just painful...but I know people happy with a 412Mhz one on the iPhone (not running spreadsheets though :-D )
 
Is jailbreaking really that easy to do? I'm new to all of this but I want to be able to customized my wallpaper and get free games w/o my touch bricking on me.

If you want to jailbreak just to steal from developers, then I'm sorry, but I hope it bricks on you.
 
But, it does annoy me when people bitch that newer software doesn't support their old machine. Sorry, that is technology for you. If you don't want to keep up with technology, you are going to find eventually you're not going to find much made for your old technology.

I think the problem with what you are saying has to do with the time frame involved. Calling a two-year old computer "old technology" is just plain IGNORANT in my opinion and that is exactly the sort of time frame Apple has been adopting lately for iOS support and for some items, even OSX support (e.g. Hardware H264 support, Mac Pro Graphic Cards, etc.)

No one expects Apple to support older hardware forever, but today's computers more than ever are capable of being useful for LONG periods of time. It simply does not take the latest computer CPU or GPU to run iTunes, Microsoft Office or an Internet Browser. With the latter, they take less than ever. But here we have Apple artificially making them useless. They brag on the one hand about how "green" their newest products are but then they shorten support from an average of 6 years down to 2 years and just how "green" is it to throw away your 2 year old iMac? :rolleyes: Even a recycled computer has costs in terms of energy and parts waste. And this is all just so Apple can sell you MORE hardware to support their bottom line? I'm sure Republicans love it. But some of us realize there's more to life than making Steve even richer at our expense.

If it does what you want even without supporting new software/whatnot, great. But if it's not supported and you want the new stuff, get over it and upgrade.

If Steve stops supporting your 6 month old iPhone, GET OVER IT AND UPGRADE! (that is exactly what you are saying, BTW, only your time frame is assumed and 100% arbitrary; just how long do you think Apple should have to support one of their products??? A year? A month? A day? Caveat Emptor? All sales final? :rolleyes:

New technology will never advance and get to do new stuff if it keeps having to be tied down to old technology.

Pure nonsense and has NOTHING to do with why Apple stops supporting mere 2 year old devices these days. The real reason? $$$$$$$$$

And this is exactly the attitude I'm talking about. How are they forcing you to upgrade.

I know this takes a LOT of thought to figure out but bear with me. If the newer software (and thus the monopoly software "app" store as well) no longer supports the older hardware, you can't run any new software. That's a pretty BIG incentive to upgrade, don't you think? No, they don't hold a gun to your head, but it's the next best thing. You can't run the latest browser. You can't run the latest version of your favorite apps. You can't run jack squat. I hope you grabbed the old app versions before they "required" the newer OS that doesn't support your hardware anymore. :rolleyes:

You claim your 3g is enough for you, and then you gripe that it won't do the newest thing? If it works fine for you, what do you care if it doesn't support newer stuff.

Umm.....:rolleyes: He's saying the hardware is good enough, but if Apple forces his software to no longer work with newer versions by dropping support then Apple has screwed him over. It's not that the hardware isn't "good enough" but that Apple made sure it's not useful for anything purchased beyond the date they dropped support (or not far out from that; I've seen MANY MANY apps "require" V3.0 or newer and now 4.0 or newer in their updates. Too bad.

What YOU are saying meanwhile is that sooner or later you HAVE to pay your Apple Tax (i.e. upgrade every two years even if the hardware isn't hardly any better but your old hardware is dropped) so get used to it.

If you want to jailbreak just to steal from developers, then I'm sorry, but I hope it bricks on you.

This is how BRAINWASHED the fanatics are. He says he'd like to be able to get free games and so you assume that means he wants to pirate/steal them. Apparently, you are so used to paying for everything there is these days that you forget that a LOT of free software exists that Apple WILL NOT APPROVE but is available for jailbreak devices (e.g. emulators and their vast libraries of games like the C64, etc., things that "duplicate" Apple software, adult entertainment, etc.)

I mean the mere fact people jump all over this guy as a criminal because he's looking for public domain software for the iPhone...UNREAL.

No they should not. These are quick turnover items. If your device is still working after two years, then you got your monies worth.

Says who? YOU? Just WTF are you to make that judgment?????? UNBELIEVABLE. Just un-freaking believable that people have the nerve to say such GARBAGE on here. Why don't you just shorten that to two weeks while you're at it? :rolleyes:
 
I think the problem with what you are saying has to do with the time frame involved. Calling a two-year old computer "old technology" is just plain IGNORANT in my opinion and that is exactly the sort of time frame Apple has been adopting lately for iOS support

Mobile hardware development is on a far faster rate of advancement than computers right now. Yes, a 2-year-old smartphone is old technology. That's just the reality of mobile technology right now.

But here we have Apple artificially making them useless. They brag on the one hand about how "green" their newest products are but then they shorten support from an average of 6 years down to 2 years and just how "green" is it to throw away your 2 year old iMac?

Odd, I have a couple of 4-year-old iMacs in my house that are working just fine (and running the latest OS). And if I wanted to sell one today I could do so for a decent price, and the buyer would get several more years of use out of it.

Or you could buy a PC, which has zero market value within a year, and probably ends up in the trash bin in two because it's easier to buy a new $300 Dell than clean the malware off a 2-year-old $300 Dell.

Arguing that today's PCs have more longevity than today's Macs is laughable.

I'm sure Republicans love it.

What the crap does this have to do with politics??? :rolleyes:

(And you won't find a bigger hippie liberal out there than Steve Jobs, FWIW.)

If Steve stops supporting your 6 month old iPhone, GET OVER IT AND UPGRADE! (that is exactly what you are saying, BTW, only your time frame is assumed and 100% arbitrary; just how long do you think Apple should have to support one of their products??? A year? A month? A day? Caveat Emptor? All sales final? :rolleyes:

So go buy an Android phone and get an old version of the OS right out of the box (on some models) with no guaranteed upgrade path ever.

Or how about the BlackBerry Storm 2? Selling brand new right now, yet a future update to BlackBerry 6 is dubious.

Where's your outrage?

Pure nonsense and has NOTHING to do with why Apple stops supporting mere 2 year old devices these days. The real reason? $$$$$$$$$

We get it, comrade. Capitalism is for pigs.

Pure nonsense and has NOTHING to I know this takes a LOT of thought to figure out

Not really.

This is how BRAINWASHED the fanatics are.

And there it is. Finally.

Go enjoy your brand-new Android 1.6 device. Try the Sony. :rolleyes:
 
Mobile hardware development is on a far faster rate of advancement than computers right now. Yes, a 2-year-old smartphone is old technology. That's just the reality of mobile technology right now.

This doesn't just involve phones. While your contract may make it reasonable to upgrade your phone every two years, the iPod Touch and even the new iPad are another matter. There has been little to entice me to buy a newer iPod Touch (mine is 1st generation) up until now. I'm not running much in the way of games on it. It handles browsing, music, movies and controlling my whole house audio/video system quite nicely 3 years later. Apple decided I don't need any more updates for it, though and thus many apps will no longer support it for that reason and that reason ALONE. And it is THAT which I speak about, not your adolescent need to imply I'm a Communist because I think Apple is overly greedy and can't be bothered to support existing users these days. And it's not just iOS devices. Hardware H264 support never even existed for my MBP and it just now turned 2 years old. Apple dumped supporting some new features like that a year and a half after I bought it. But no, I don't have any reason to complain that Apple's support for existing machines and users is half-assed these days. :rolleyes:

Arguing that today's PCs have more longevity than today's Macs is laughable.

So you base that entirely on resale price? The FACT is a machine from 2001 can still run brand new software including iTunes 10 on Windows XP. iTunes 10 won't run on Tiger which is half the age of XP. And yet PCs don't have more longevity? Even within Apple? Show me someone who will want a 4-year old Intel Mac if Apple dumps all OS support for it in 10.7. Tell me how much it's worth then. These are not hardware issues. They are support issues. Macs used to have the reputation of being usable FAR longer than Windows machines. I no longer see it. Their GPUs are usually already outdated already the day they come out and it doesn't get any newer. Apple doesn't support any of the latest optical drive tech (BD). They're living in the past yet they don't support past machines any longer. You can be thrilled all you want. I'm disappointed in the direction they seem to be heading these days.
 
So you base that entirely on resale price?

What the heck do you think resale price is based upon??? How nice a useless paperweight looks on your desk? Hardly. It's based a lot on longevity.

I'd be willing to bet a higher percentage of Macs are in service for a longer amount of time than PCs on average. This has been my personal experience, and based on the resale Mac market I'd say my experience is typical. Nothing epitomizes disposable technology these days better than your average craptastic PC.

And you're hyping the fact that and old PC can run an old OS (XP)??? Whoopee. I suppose you should be thanking Apple that they still cater to creaky-old XP with the latest version of iTunes.

If you hate Apple's upgrade cycle and their pricing there's an easy solution: don't buy their stuff. If enough people join you, Apple will change its ways to meet your demands by offering cutting edge hardware at bargain prices that lasts forever. :rolleyes:

And RIM, WinPho7 (impending) and Android currently see hardware made obsolete much faster than iOS, FYI, if the hardware isn't running an old version of the OS right out of the box. If you're outraged at Apple, you'll really blow a gasket if you buy a device from one of the competitors.

But you should try it and see. ;)
 
Pure nonsense and has NOTHING to do with why Apple stops supporting mere 2 year old devices these days. The real reason? $$$$$$$$$

This. Even though you sound a bit like a conspiracy theories, your right. The iPhone (and all iOS devices) are not even 5 years old. There should be no need to upgrade this early on. Also, it's stupid not to include the Game Center in the 3G because other games have had these features working on the exact same device before hand!
 
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