Your Talking A 28 Core Intel Processor made 4 Years ago!
A 28 Core Intel Current Gen, Generation 11 Processor will WASTE an APPLE ARM processor for Sure!
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Apple Confirms iMac Pro Will Be Discontinued When Supplies Run Out, Recommends 27-Inch iMac
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Your Talking A 28 Core Intel Processor made 4 Years ago!
A 28 Core Intel Current Gen, Generation 11 Processor will WASTE an APPLE ARM processor for Sure!
Let's be real here and compare Current generation Technology.
Odd that they would ditch it now that they can actually put some horsepower into it with their own processors. That said, the regular iMac with Apple Silicon would be hard to differentiate from this unless they crippled it, or reduced items like memory and storage in the Standard iMac to make the Pro look better.
Hope the next iMacs can fully match the iMac Pro's I/O. Four Thunderbolt ports would be huge upgrade from the current model's two.
Who is even going to buy these knowing new models are coming soon and without even a price drop?
Hardly surprising. It has always felt like a stopgap, as others have noted earlier.
it was almost vaporware, but not.
And bait + switch of a product line.
I would be really cautious if an iMac Pro silicon came out, no matter what it promises to offer even M2XXX. Just not worth the price/value
Oddly really similar faults of the one non-hit wonder, trash can Mac Pro not modular, insane price, obsolete since never really updated... but a pig with lipstick on as a SPACE GREY iMac
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At least it brought out the space grey Magic Mouse 2 (and magic keyboard, of which I am not a part) which was later sold separately, and which I got locally barely used for $25 some time ago (and disinfected like a boss)
So... there's that
It is only "so long" if you don't actually have one. I hope to enjoy many more years from this beast. Yes, it was an interim product, and happened to come out when I was looking to replace my cheese grater Mac Pro. I would hardly expect them to be offering feature bumps, let alone continuing production at all, during a CPU transition.
Doesn't it have better cooling and continuous duty processors and error correcting memory? For some workflows that's a pretty big deal. Of course now with the mac pro you can get these things but I don't see them in the iMac yet, so it was a good stop gap while the mac pro was honed to its current form.
To me the Mac Pro is an experiment to see if iMac users are willing to pay higher prices for an iMac. So I would expect to see build to order options for the M1 iMac that climb above $3,000 just to get Mac Pro level processors in it. With the base model having the same M1 chip we have now with a few more graphics cores. Maybe not when it comes out but eventually. With Apple owning all the chips I think they will allow you to customize your laptops and desktops with any processor as long as it takes you above the $3,000 price point. In order to grow profits they have to charge more than they did 10 years ago. Seems strange since they sold computers way over that 20 years ago but I think its not too far fetched to think they might have a new $3,000 and up tier to all their desktops and laptops for the next 10 years. Leaving their consumer models under $2,000 and stick them with consumer grade speed levels. The new Pro level will start at $3,000 and go up. The m1 is the new low end tier. Its fine now because its faster than the tech you already own but will probably feel like getting an i3 or Celeron 5 years from now. If you want speed that goes toe to toe with the best of intel consumer chips today your in the $2,000 tier, if you want chips that are faster than anything on the market today, you have just entered the $3,000. Apple can name any price when they have a product nobody else can compete with.
I own a 27" iMac and love it. I paid 30% of the price of an iMac Pro and it does the job for me. Im confused as to whom the market was aimed at. Who would want to spend $5k on an AllinOne?
I really think this was some engineer's baby just to see how much tech they can cram into a 2" shell and Cook said "go for it."
I really think this was some engineer's baby just to see how much tech they can cram into a 2" shell and Cook said "go for it."
Anybody who needs continuous duty processors and error correcting memory and the ability to run windows
well the iMac Pro's purpose was kinda only a bridging the Gap between the old Mac Pro (Trashcan) and the New Mac Pro
"a higher-resolution 1080p FaceTime camera".. the iMac Pro also has a 1080p camera.
Other than that, the iMac wouldn't be a replacement for the iMac Pro for me. I'm using the iMac Pro with 2 external 5k displays and the iMac (even though 3 years newer) only supports one because it only has a single thunderbolt bus instead if two like the iMac Pro. That and the ability to get 16 GB of VRAM was the the main reason for me to choose an iMac Pro back in early 2018. However, now it seems the only "selling point" would be the dual TB buses.
That being said, Also run windows on my iMac Pro for playing games and I feel like the Vega 64 has been keeping up quite well in the last 3 years. (playing most games in 4k or even 5k). I'll definitely keep this machine for a while because if I get a Apple silicon iMac, I'd also need a gaming PC. (plus, when will we have an apple silicon Mac that will support 3x 5k?)
Other than that, the iMac wouldn't be a replacement for the iMac Pro for me. I'm using the iMac Pro with 2 external 5k displays and the iMac (even though 3 years newer) only supports one because it only has a single thunderbolt bus instead if two like the iMac Pro. That and the ability to get 16 GB of VRAM was the the main reason for me to choose an iMac Pro back in early 2018. However, now it seems the only "selling point" would be the dual TB buses.
That being said, Also run windows on my iMac Pro for playing games and I feel like the Vega 64 has been keeping up quite well in the last 3 years. (playing most games in 4k or even 5k). I'll definitely keep this machine for a while because if I get a Apple silicon iMac, I'd also need a gaming PC. (plus, when will we have an apple silicon Mac that will support 3x 5k?)
Yea, there is no need to rush a purchase. You will have several years to ruminate over what a bad money pit it is. lol
I agree with much of your post. if you go to upgradeable platforms you are back in the realms of Windows/Wintel where often no two machines are alike, where then you have the problems of configurations, depending on which cards you have, which bluetooth, which ethernet card.
My iMac Pro is a great machine and has earned its keep, so I'm not concerned at it being discontinued, and there is still life in that machine for some while to come, but where I'm really looking forward to the new iMac line up, where I fully expect the performance to outdo the iMac Pro, and where the monitors too are likely to be upgraded and where I will be putting order in and where the older iMacs are just deployed elsewhere in any less demanding work.
Personally I don't think we need a new version of the iMac Pro, but where I suspect if we do get one, it will be using exactly the same specs as any new iMac, so effectively the iMac Pro as a different engineered solution will be no more.
Yes we might see an iMac specified as iMac Pro with different RAM and higher spec GPU and CPU, but within the same architecture of the new iMac range.
At present I suspect there isn't a higher spec GPU/CPU configuration other than those that will no doubt be announced in the new iMac range, so for now iMac Pro name also will be set aside.
There is no point in tooling up for a new iMac Pro, far better to tool up for the new iMac range, and when a higher spec GPU/CPU chip becomes available its no real hardship to then incorporate that into the iMac range, which is after all what has happened with the iMac range for some time.
Saves Apple redesigning a different iMac Pro, saves the internal architecture being redesigned and saves on marketing if the new iMac range is rolled out and then upgraded accordingly as even more sophisticated silicon arrives.
Mac Pro will still be updated, although even there I suspect upgradeability will be more to do with more RAM, and a few slots for additional high spec cards, but hopefully not going down the route of Wintel, where often no two machines are the same, and where similar cards still have major compatibility problems in setting up equipment, compared with plugging a Mac in and it works.
No. Even the top line current Intel processors are nowhere near as smooth as the lowest M1.
Benchmark wise and spec wise, of course they blow it out of the water. But when it comes to optimization an actual experience, they’re still garbage
No, it didn’t. The iMac Pro and Mac Pro’s sell in the single percentages between the two of them.
That’s not quite correct. The iMac Pro was originally intended to be a replacement for the trash can Mac Pro. Apple was gonna be permanently out of the expandable Pro tower business. It only ended up serving as a stop gap because Apple changed course at the last minute (thankfully) and decided to design a new Mac Pro tower when the iMac Pro was already pretty close to launch
Literally everyone
The vast majority of folks are good with a mobile device of some kind, the rest are good with an iMac and only a tiny tiny sliver of folks would ever NEED this level of performance.And waste a lot more power, though. Serious question, is a 28 core Gen 11 processor available? Because, you know, any chip that actually exists, like the M1, will destroy one that… doesn’t.