Apple confirms iPhone X video playback does not show notch

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  1. hasanahmad macrumors 65816

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    So there was some ranting by journalists that when you play video in landscape mode, it shows the notch as it fills the entire pixels of the display. This is however not the case

    https://twitter.com/BenBajarin/status/908772648489967621

    Apple responded to Ben Bajarin to confirm that the default setting is that video plays to the same rectangular size of iPhone 8 Plus and only fills up the entire display if you double tap to zoom in the display.
     
  2. Technarchy macrumors 604

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    When you play native aspect ratio video on the iPhone X you’ll basically only have a 4.7” display.

    To go full screen you’ll need to zoom and crop and the notch will be visible.
     
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    Yes. They zoomed everything to emphasize the E2E display. They are obsessed with it.

    What they don't tell you is that when you don't zoom in, your content doesn't even come close to taking up all of that screen real estate. So it's either zoom in and get the notch, or get a relatively tiny image.
     
  5. yanki01 macrumors 68040

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    i believe there was a hands on video about this.

    here's one i saw..@ 2:54 is where the video playback shows no notch zoomed out.
     
  6. Starfyre macrumors 68030

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    It shoudn't be like that though, I think someone needs to confirm this. The screen is longer and the notch is not taking up the same space as bezel + physical home button. There is still more "rectangular screen" possible that is greater than a 4.7'' display. Am almost 100% certain you are wrong.
     
  7. SvenLorenz1975 macrumors newbie

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    It might not be the same as a 4.7" display, but it's clear that if you talk about "usable space" in the correct aspect ratio without cropping the picture, the 8 plus still has the biggest screen of any iPhone.
     
  8. Infiniverse48 macrumors 6502a

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    This is only close to being true for 16:9 content, but not exactly then either because the display is 4mm wider, so even in 16:9 you still get a marginally larger image. However, a lot if not most movies are 23:9 so you will factually get a much larger display worth of movie when you are watching this.
     
  9. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

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    The notch is only in the screen. It has nothing to do with the sensor which is what records the images and video.
     
  10. Technarchy macrumors 604

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    There is no way I can convince someone who just wants their own opinions validated.

    Experiment for yourself. Go to your local Best Buy, pick up a Galaxy S8/+ and watch a YouTube video, or Netflix.

    What happens?

    I have a Galaxy S8+ so I already know the answer.

    Once again I refer you to Apple’s own documentation.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 16, 2017 ---
    What aspect ratio do the most common video delivery services use? 16:9 with black bars around other aspect ratios to make it fit 16:9 delivery.
     

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  11. matt2053, Sep 16, 2017
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    Nah, it's actually larger than 4.7" because the display on the X is wider than the display on the 4.7" phones.

    Edit: Some quick math shows the 16:9 viewing area on the X would be equivalent to about a 5.2" display.
     
  12. Technarchy macrumors 604

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    You’re disputing information direct from Apple. The display on the X is not wider than then 4.7” models

    Per Apple:

    https://developer.apple.com/ios/human-interface-guidelines/overview/iphone-x/

    Screen Size
    In portrait orientation, the width of the display on iPhone X matches the width of the 4.7" displays of iPhone 6, iPhone 7, and iPhone 8. The display on iPhone X, however, is 145pt taller than a 4.7" display, resulting in roughly 20% additional vertical space for content.
     
  13. edfoo macrumors 6502

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    OMG, thanks for your link Technarchy.

    I always thought iPhone X's screen is slightly wider than iPhone 8's. So it actually says both have the same width on their screens, just that X's is significantly taller. Apple tech spec also says the width of iPhone X body is 70.9mm (2.79") while the width of iPhone 8 is 67.3mm (2.65"), that means iPhone X actually has bigger bezels on both sides than iPhone 8 :eek:
     
  14. Falhófnir macrumors 68040

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    I know a lot of films are shown in the cinema at a wider ratio than they [seem to be] sold at on DVD, but still by far the most common that you will be purchasing, or even shooting yourself in is 16:9. Does the camera on the X have a wider angle mode, or is it still limited to 3:2 and 16:9?

    You mean to say the plus series in general, all having a virtually identical 5.5" 1080p display (sans some differences in colour gamut and brightness)...
     
  15. Nozuka macrumors 68020

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    yes and i find this quite annoying..
     
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    Freddy Krugger sent me a tweet as well....he has a special message for Apple

     
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    Yea that is weird to me.

    The side bezels on the X does not look bigger than the 8, so I always thought the X has slightly wider screens.
     
  19. Supermallet macrumors 65816

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    The two most common ratios for movies are 1.85:1 (which is very close to the 1.78:1 of a 16:9 screen, necessitating only the tiniest amount of letter boxing), and 2.35:1 (slightly more than 21:9). I would venture to say 1.85:1 is probably used more in a given year of modern day films, although I do not have exact stats and it would very by year. But while there are some wider movies released every year, it's absolutely not true that MOST movies are 2.35:1/21:9, although many famous and prestigious ones are.

    And then when you factor in all the TV shows shot in 16:9, and virtually all internet video content, the amount of content that is wider than 16:9 is minuscule.

    I don't think this is true either. Most DVD/Blu-ray releases retain the original theatrical ratio of the film in question.
     
  20. phixionalninja macrumors regular

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    I think that document is just referring to their relative widths in terms of abstract "points". In terms of actual width in inches, either the iPhone X is a little wider than the iPhone 6/7/8, or their advertised tech specs are wrong (which I doubt).

    iPhone 8: 750 pixels wide / 326ppi = ~2.3" wide
    iPhone X: 1125 pixels wide / 458ppi = ~2.45" wide

    That would make for an approximately 5" diagonal for 16:9 content.
     
  21. predation macrumors 65816

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    Maybe apple will put in an option to blackout the ears.
     
  22. pdxmatts macrumors 68000

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    So, still smaller than the 5.5" on the Plus models. This is getting very frustrating!!!
     
  23. matt2053 macrumors 6502a

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    Well yes, but it's a much smaller phone than the Plus.
     
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