Don’t be naive, that’s not apple’s stance it’s apple’s BS. Their real stance is prioritizing profits over expanded functionality, customization and interoperability. It’s all about money, not security/privacy.
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Apple Confirms It Shut Down iMessage for Android App Beeper Mini
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Don’t be naive, that’s not apple’s stance it’s apple’s BS. Their real stance is prioritizing profits over expanded functionality, customization and interoperability. It’s all about money, not security/privacy.
The reverse-engineering argument keeps being used but it's not so simple. That section of the copyright act still requires that certain guidelines are followed for it to be legal. In that aspect, it's something that would have a more solid determination in court. And there could be other variables that Apple is worried about (besides the ecosystem) but won't disclose.
That apple isn’t really that much concerned about security, that’s just the BS they spit out every time to justify what they do. In reality, all they care about is their profits. Money and only money.
Then why are most american iphone users ignoring those competitive alternatives and limiting themselves to imessage and sms only?
An interesting question is why Apple allowed registering a phone number from a “Mac” in the first place. iMessage on non-iPhone devices requires logging in with an Apple ID and password. iPhones can use a phone number by sending a behind the scene SMS code to Apple and register that way.
Seeing a ‘Mac running Mountain Lion” registering a phone number via SMS should have been a big red flag.
It’s not just monetization, it’s because beeper mini is a risk to apple’s profits. They use imessage’s exclusivity to sell more iphones and lock people into their ecosystem. Anyone allowing android users to use imessage natively, even if it were for free, puts apple’s business at risk.
The ultimate argument against interoperability between iOS and Android. You know what the most secure system is? A system nobody can use.
That’s just a rant. You’re presenting a false dichotomy. Apple can certainly care about security and profits. Especially considering security can impact their profits.
While I personally am not Beeper's target audience (as in, iOS user,) I really do sympathize with them as a dev. I don't think there's anything that could be more crushing than a community or team spending days reverse engineering a protocol or API only to have it completely flipped on you the next day.
For all the unofficial hackyness of the implementation, it tends to only be like that when there's no other reasonable option. See, Twitter's nonsense and Nitter developers' response.
I hope Apple can either reach some sort of private agreement or document the protocol if they really did only have good intentions.
For all the unofficial hackyness of the implementation, it tends to only be like that when there's no other reasonable option. See, Twitter's nonsense and Nitter developers' response.
I hope Apple can either reach some sort of private agreement or document the protocol if they really did only have good intentions.
With AirMessage and BlueBubbles… I’m able to forgo using an iPhone while using iMessage on my Galaxy Fold.
And I’m fully aware AirMessage and BlueBubbles implementation is different from Beeper Mini, but the end result is the same... I do not have to buy an iPhone. Which, as you claim… is a risk to Apple’s profit. However, since they are not trying to monetize their project… Apple will not react.
Imagine if they forced Apple to surrender macOS and make it installable on any modern computer that would be the day.
“Hey, Apple, I know I stole your code and plagiarized it so that I could use it for my benefit, but I’m totally willing to work with you to help me make my code good enough for me to utilize it on a competing operating system, and make a profit off of it”
Yeah that’s gonna go well
If you look at the definition and examples of anticompetitive behavior, every single market leading company engages in it publicly. We need a new definition because these anticompetitive proceedings and fines have become performative.
I see no problem that Apple shut down this hack. After all many forget that Apple developed, marketed and has enhanced iMessage on their own. Personally I just find it disappointing that folks keep trying to say it is a monopolistic when it was Apple that did the work. So if someone try’s a hack Apple has all rights to close that hack and any others that come along.
airmessage requires the use of a mac as a server. Beeper mini allowed android users to run imessage directly from their android devices just as if they were using an iphone. That difference motivates a lot more people to download it.
Limited to SMS when it comes to non-iphone users, actually. There are alternatives to that and they’ve been mentioned here, but american iphone owners simply ignore them and stupidly use the decades-old and unencrypted sms to chat with non-iphone users. And it’s partly apple’s fault for merging imessage and sms in the same app.
As I stated… the implementation is different lol.
But the end result allows me to not buy an iPhone… and it doesn’t necessarily have to be a Mac, it’s possible using a PC as well (via virtual machine). The point I’m making… which keeps getting glossed over. If Beeper Mini didn’t attempt to monetize their project, I highly doubt Apple would have reacted.
Which only makes sense since MacOS doesn't support android phones well, fewer android people have Macs to run airmessage.
And as I stated before it’s not because they monetized that apple reacted, or at least not only because of that. It’s because beeper mini eliminated the need for a server (mac or pc with virtual machine) in between.
As much as I hate Apples BS the last decade…Beeper can pound sand. If Apple wants people on its platform it would provide the tools. Using an exploit to build a business off someone else’s platform is really just stealing. I’d shut them down too. Build your own chat system if you want….dont bootleg someone else’s and charge for it.
