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I suppose a polite killer is better than a rude one.
You aren't killed by your car. You are killed by either your bad driving or the bad driving of others.
I just hate cars. All I really think about is how dangerous they are. Car culture has done a lot of damage to America. Both physically and culturally.
I like cars and really enjoy the freedom my car and motorcycles provide me.
 
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Exciting news, of course, if this can be implemented in some way in the cars already supporting CarPlay. Having to get a new car to use these new amazing features is a way less appealing option.
 
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Apple this week updated its website to confirm that the first U.S. vehicle models with next-generation CarPlay support will debut in 2024, but it did not provide a more specific timeframe, or indicate when availability will begin in other countries.

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In a next-generation CarPlay section of its website, Apple replaced "Vehicle announcements coming in late 2023" with "First models arrive in 2024."

The first beta of iOS 17.4 released today references eight new CarPlay apps, as discovered by MacRumors contributors Aaron Perris and Steve Moser:
  • Auto Settings: This app will let you manage paired iPhones and adjust vehicle settings.
  • Car Camera: This app will display the vehicle's rear-view camera feed.
  • Charge: For electric vehicles, this app will display battery level, charging status, time remaining until the battery is fully charged, and more.
  • Climate: This app will provide access to a vehicle's climate controls within CarPlay, allowing you to adjust the temperature of the A/C or heating system, fan speed, heated seats, heated steering wheel, and more.
  • Closures: This app will display if any of the vehicle's doors are opened, and it might also display vehicle warning symbols.
  • Media: This app will provide access to FM and AM radio station controls within CarPlay, along with other media options like SiriusXM. It is unclear if SiriusXM will offer satellite connectivity, or remain limited to internet streaming. Users will be able to select from a list of music genres, such as Top 40 and Rock.
  • Tire Pressure: This app will display air pressure for each of the vehicle's tires, and provide low pressure, high pressure, and flat tire warnings.
  • Trips: This app will provide a variety of driving-related data, including the vehicle's average speed, fuel efficiency or energy efficiency, the total time elapsed and distance traveled on a trip, and more.
An image uncovered in the iOS 17.4 beta reveals that next-generation CarPlay will likely display a "Goodbye" screen after the driver shuts off the vehicle:

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As previously announced by Apple, additional images in the iOS 17.4 beta confirm that users will be able to adjust the theme and color scheme of next-generation CarPlay, including the appearance of the instrument cluster:

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Apple first previewed next-generation CarPlay in June 2022. The interface can be tailored to a specific vehicle model and automaker's brand identity, as previewed by Aston Martin and Porsche in late December. Aston Martin said it would release its first vehicles with next-generation CarPlay in 2024, including a new model of its high-end DB12 sports car. Porsche did not provide a timeframe or specific details about its own plans.

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When first announcing next-generation CarPlay, Apple said committed automakers included Acura, Audi, Ford, Honda, Infiniti, Jaguar, Land Rover, Lincoln, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Polestar, Porsche, Renault, and Volvo. Beyond the addition of Aston Martin, it is unclear if this list has changed since that initial announcement.

Apple has not indicated if any next-generation CarPlay features will be made available in existing vehicles with classic CarPlay support. Apple said iOS 17.4 will be released in March, so perhaps additional details will be shared around then.

Article Link: Apple Confirms Next-Generation CarPlay Launching in 2024, Reveals New Features in iOS 17.4 Beta
“Closures”, “Trips”, and “Tire Pressure” are all that interest me, I went home with an iPhone, like I always do. But how was I to know, ’twas with a carplay too. “Closures Trips & Pressure” sounds like a tune by Zevon. The other non-tactile controls are not there yet. IMHO
 
On a lark I went down and tried "Set temperature to 72 degrees", but my car said "Setting Sirius XM to channel 72" which gave me some serious Siri vibes. LOL
 
You aren't killed by your car. You are killed by either your bad driving or the bad driving of others.

I like cars and really enjoy the freedom my car and motorcycles provide me.

They aren’t all bad.

And yes I agree with that mostly, except now we are headed toward self driving. It is now actually becoming possible to be killed by the car. Yeah eventually you could go up the chain to find a human to hold responsible, but it’s a lot closer than ever to actually being killed by the car itself.

Also it’s not always someone’s bad driving. Plain old no fault accidents happen. Slippery pavement, something falling on the road that’s not supposed to be there, etc.
 
they're probably driving the base models with no automatic climate control

Different people driving the same vehicle. I like the cabin a lot colder than when my wife drives. She wants it around 70F, while I want it around 62ish.

Also it’s not always someone’s bad driving. Plain old no fault accidents happen. Slippery pavement, something falling on the road that’s not supposed to be there, etc.

The biggest source of accidents in my county, according to the police department, is deer. I don't think any self-driving system is ready for their unpredictability.

My father has totaled three vehicles by deer..two in the same spot, where they would run down a steep (almost vertical) embankment and onto the off-ramp of an interstate. Nothing can see them until they are on the road in front of you.
 
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Porsche Taycan looks great, but sales rep in store was clueless about CarPlay (no idea even what next get CarPlay is or that Porsche VP already confirmed that Porsche will have it).

Let’s check back in 6 months. By then maybe the new Macan EV is released as well.
 
Wireless CarPlay works flawlessly in my 2023 Bronco and 2024 Subaru. Subaru has climate control on the screen and it is easy to use.

For me, no CarPlay is a show stopper.
 
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Well, no, it's not the end of the world. You're right about that. But it is indeed far less than ideal, which is what I said it would be in my initial post. Most germane to the discussion here, though, is that Apple hasn't built their reputation around experiences that are meh, "not the end of the world". They are known for world class UX, and in fact when they get it wrong the user-base lets them know pretty vocally. So I'm simply hoping that's not where this is headed.



Irrespective of whether this requires you have a phone linked up or not, that's really exactly what this is - auto software for cars. All the apps listed in the OP are just that - car specific software. So, we are already there if you think about it. And, as a point of fact, there is nothing about NG CarPlay that we've seen or learned to now that physically, logistically, genuinely should require a phone to be in the mix. So, why should there be any pretense? Just let it run stand-alone. If they don't do that this year, well, I suspect they will be nudged that way eventually. Because, as the Electrek scribe eloquently described, most of what is out there today is a complete freeway pile-up.
Yes, apple creates the best software experiences... for apple hardware. This wouldn't be the case. Again — we'll see what this will be, but I still think this won't be autonomous in the way you're suggesting.
 
Seems pretty clear to me that Apple won't - and can't - force all of the car's displays to be taken over by CarPlay because several car manufacturers simply won't give Apple total control and that would be bad news for Apple's customers.

Personally, I am looking to get a car that supports this full new CarPlay but I don't imagine all cars - even most - to adopt this, as ceding control of the customer experience to a potential future competitor just seems naive and shortsighted.
I'm referring to those cars that do allow full control though. I want the option to not go all in even my car permitting, but be able to use an equivalent of today's CarPlay.
 
The 'Climate' one is a terrible idea. Apparently Apple still haven't learned what Car Manufacturers learned 10 years ago when introducing touch screens - that tactile buttons are always better in vehicles than touch screens, because you can adjust by feel without having to take your eyes off the road.
You can use voice commands to adjust the temp. Also you still need to take your eyes off the road with physical buttons to see what number or level you’re at.
 
what would be useful is to have the iphone record footage, like a dash cam does. Be great if I could access all car camera footage after a crash etc from my iphone/icloud.
That would be amazing, in fact then this would need the front and side cameras as well. When you get rear ended it's pretty simple to determine whose fault it was — it's much tricker when someone cuts you off. An equivalent of a dash cam would be very much appreciated, although I'm not sure that this is what this is...
 
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because in most cars you cannot view it if you want. you have to put your car in reverse or activate automatic parking.
then there's the other thing: if the car's UI kicks in, it disrupts CarPlay, and you usually need several touches to get back to the CarPlay UI.
this gonna be pretty useful, especially if this also applies to front camera and/or bird's eye view
Yea, I can see this being a total mess. And very distracting to the driver.
 
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