And here are the facts:
I did not say Apple does not sell old ATV anymore. The fact that Apple still sells old ATV actually strengthens my argument which was that they abandoned support even though they still sell it.
Comparing performance of Intel processors to ARM is rather difficult because whilst performance data for x86 CPUs is abundant (SpecInt, FPSpec2000 etc.) the same can not be said about ARM. snip.
I see your angle. You do have a point but then look at Apple bank account. $50 billion dollars? And they skimp on support? There must be a better balance than that. Other companies do not have that much cash. Maybe that's because they take better care of their customers?
lol I don't get the link in your sig
Here's my beef with the new Apple TV:
* Power consumption - Everyone complained about the lack of effective sleep mode on the original ATV. Now, the power consumption of the ATV may be lower, but you'll have to leave your desktop computer on and out of sleep mode in order to use it. Fail.
Ok lilo777, you seem to be ignoring everyone else's sensible comments so I'm probably wasting my breath BUT:
Support = Apple helping you if your product goes wrong. That's called a warranty. If you bought an ATV a few days ago, you still have a warranty. Your ATV is not 'obsolete' (the term Apple uses for products discontinued over 5 years ago and therefore no longer supported). ATV v1 will not be obsolete until 2015. Not bad eh?
Support does not equal free software updates for an indefinite period. Apple are not obligated to provide any software update to any product. Stop being so self-entitled.
This has been said before but you don't seem to understand, so I'll try again:
The old ATV runs a modified form of OS X on an Intel chip. The only future for a product of this nature (a future that would allow Apple to easily add features and move forward) was to move to an ARM (A4) chip and run iOS.
What you were hoping Apple was going to do was to write a version of iOS from scratch that would run on an Intel chip. Have you ever developed an entire OS? I haven't, but I know it takes a very long time and an awful lot of work. So Apple should spend all that time and money rewriting iOS just so it can run on old ATV's, a product which sold in a relatively small number? No company in the world would call that a sensible business decision.
Anyone who bought an ATV in the last 30 days can go back to the Apple Store and get a refund, no questions asked. Anyone who bought one before then still has a perfectly good, working and supported ATV.
All I can say lilo777, is that I and the majority of people here are glad you are not on the board or directors for Apple, else the company would be doomed.
You never cease to amaze me on the amount of smarts you have.. Did it ever occur to you that if other companies have less cash, that might be because they don't make much money, because they don't have a product that their customers want? Maybe competitors like Apple (I know this hurts you to hear this) make products that people actually want and do buy.
For the record, Microsoft has tons more cash than Apple, but MS doesn't nothing for their customers but make them spend money on upgrades.
If you're talking about Netflix. It's part of the new Apple TV. So I don't understand what you're trying to say.
You never cease to amaze me on the amount of smarts you have.. Did it ever occur to you that if other companies have less cash, that might be because they don't make much money, because they don't have a product that their customers want? Maybe competitors like Apple (I know this hurts you to hear this) make products that people actually want and do buy.
For the record, Microsoft has tons more cash than Apple, but MS doesn't nothing for their customers but make them spend money on upgrades.
For the record, you are factually incorrect. Apple has $46 billion in cash. Microsoft has $36.8. You can find more data in this article. Microsoft could have had more but they are just being more responsible both with their customers and shareholders. Unlike Apple, they pay dividend.
For the record, you are factually incorrect. Apple has $46 billion in cash. Microsoft has $36.8. You can find more data in this article. Microsoft could have had more but they are just being more responsible both with their customers and shareholders. Unlike Apple, they pay dividend.
Sue them. I and many intellectual people on this forum don't give a rat's ass about you and your poor TV. So complain to the right people.
I'm sure Apple's shareholders would not have bought into Apple had they felt Apple was not "responsible".![]()
For the record, you are factually incorrect. Apple has $46 billion in cash. Microsoft has $36.8. You can find more data in this article. Microsoft could have had more but they are just being more responsible both with their customers and shareholders. Unlike Apple, they pay dividend.
I'm liking all these "online streaming only" services and devices. Maybe it will help those dirtbags at Comcast raise the 250gb cap-a-month on residential plans. Doesn't take very long to hit that cap once your family is constantly listening to Pandora, watching Netflix, downloading demos on the PS3, Slingbox, and renting content from iTunes.
I find it hilarious how naïve you are that you actually believe the reason why MS has less money than Apple is because they're 'nicer'!
No, the reason is MS is becoming increasingly irrelevant. They've put out a load of poor products (Kin, Vista, Windows Mobile etc.) and they aren't doing as well as they used to.
If you think MS is choosing to make less money for the sake of being nice, then I give up, you're beyond help, you're completely crazy.
That was not very intellectual, was it? I doubt that too many people on this forum share your sentiment.
Sue them. I and many intellectual people on this forum don't give a rat's ass about you and your poor TV. So complain to the right people.
Well, I am glad they didn't get rid of my AppleTV's capability of purchasing directly on the unit. I could care less about Netflix, my 360 has that capability.
It's just $99 and you get a new Apple TV unit with it!![]()
And it would be "you're not the only one," not "your." "Your" is a possessive. "You're" is a contraction for "you are"; the apostrophe stands for the missing 'a.'Grammar Police
Couldn't care less...if you could care less, well, you would. Your not the only one, it's a pet peeve of mine.