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Good lord, they employ two million people in the US alone?! Why on earth do we not have a new Mac Pro??

What do employees have to do with a company's sales strategy. I agree the MP is crusty and should have been revamped long ago. I just don't see the nexus between having lots of employees and a product cycle. There is more to it than that even if all 2m employees were hardware engineers.
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Or maybe the lack of natural disasters, abundance of clean and cheap energy, abundance of land, and sweet tax deals.

Oh, and we're nice.

And it's also -- probably most importantly -- in the middle of the country. It's clear Apple is building regional data centers if you look how spread out the other centers are.
 
Don't be surprised when Apple announces in a couple more years that it is building another data center or more on this property.
 
Tim Cook plans on running for President down the road.

The scariest thing is that I could completely see that happen. That doesn't sound far fetched at all. For all his flaws, Trump's proven you don't have to be a politician to grab the top spot. Being able to successfully manage a company the size of Apple puts you in a pretty excellent position to manage a company, I feel.
 
I predict Mark Zuckerberg vs Tim Cook in 2020 for the Democratic nomination

...and Tim will win because Zuckerberg is totally useless. But I feel we're starting a discussion that's not appropriate for this forum section.
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|Wait, is it 'center' or 'centre'?

Centre is the correct spelling. Center is the simplified, American spelling.

;)
 
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Iowa? Someone must have paid Apple off. Clouds, floods, tornadoes, freezing temps. All the things that are bad for data centers. Facebook's project in Albuquerque was probably the smartest data center move to date. Cheap land, cheap labor, few clouds, no twisters, and def no flooding. Yes, I'm partial.
 
NOT Rocket Science, Apple picked Iowa simply because Tim Cook plans on running for President down the road.

Iowa? Someone must have paid Apple off. Clouds, floods, tornadoes, freezing temps. All the things that are bad for data centers. Facebook's project in Albuquerque was probably the smartest data center move to date. Cheap land, cheap labor, few clouds, no twisters, and def no flooding.

Everybody builds data centers in Iowa, including Facebook. The flooding and storms are generally in the northeast quarter of the state, not the whole state.

Iowa has the right combination of cheap and available land, access to high speed network backbones, no sales tax on electricity, electric companies set up to provide 100% green power, below average electric costs, and a relative lack of natural disasters (where the data centers are).
 
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I live in Waukee, about 2 miles from where the data centers will be built. Quite excited about it really. Looking forward to watching the build out first hand. I'm originally from San Jose, so it's exciting when I see these announcements. As I understand it, prior to the Apple announcement, Iowa was the only state to have data centers from more than 2 tech titans: Microsoft (West Des Moines), Google (Council Bluffs...this is where TV gets pumped into Google Fiber), and Facebook (Altoona). In fact, as I understood it, the Microsoft data center in West Des Moines was the most expensive in the world at roughly $1.2B. Now with this roughly $1.4B data center, I imagine this is the most expensive in the world. The impressive thing about the data centers being built here in Iowa is they are the largest or least amongst some of the largest and most expensive.

Like others had stated previously, Iowa is actually quite ideal: equidistant to the coasts, access to cheap renewable energy (thanks Midamerican/Warren Buffet), access to lots of water (needed to help cool the data centers), access to an inexpensive yet educated workforce, ample available land, and other than the occasional tornado there aren't a ton of natural disasters to deal with. From what I understand Microsoft was very pleased with their first major investment in West Des Moines which is what spurred them to build the behemoth they're building out now.
 
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Apple is investing $1.3 billion into the facility, which it says will create over 550 construction and operations jobs in the Des Moines area.

Well, temporary construction jobs.

Apple also said it will contribute up to $100 million to a newly created Public Improvement Fund dedicated to community development and infrastructure around Waukee.

Good for Apple. About time they stepped up like other companies do. I bet Cupertino wishes they had held out for free WiFi now ;)

Iowa's Economic Development Authority reportedly approved a deal on Thursday that will give Apple $208 million in state and local tax breaks

Oh, well that's where the $100 million is coming from.

But Apple is paying their fair share of taxes.

Their legal share? Yes. Their fair share? Most individual taxpayers who cannot afford shell companies in Reno would say no, but then neither do most other corporations.

Good lord, they employ two million people in the US alone?! Why on earth do we not have a new Mac Pro??

When Apple says "two million", they include a million app developers who don't make a living wage, plus they include every UPS driver and all the people who work at factories making UPS trucks and airplanes, and the people who feed them and so on and so forth.

It's basically BS.

Fortune did an analysis not long ago that pointed out that using the same criteria, almost the same number of "jobs" were destroyed by Apple, leaving a net gain around 100K.
 
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No! They will run this with environmentally friendly potato power.

This is Iowa so it would be corn power :)

I live about 5 miles from this location so I'm looking forward to the economic benefit. Central Iowa already does quite well, and as someone said we already have Microsoft data centers here. The renewable energy initiative should not be difficult as we have several very large wind farms scattered throughout Iowa.
 
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Good lord, they employ two million people in the US alone?! Why on earth do we not have a new Mac Pro??
They don't employ anywhere even remotely near that amount of people. They're claiming responsibility for two million jobs, as in non-Apple jobs in manufacturing, infrastructure, etc. resulting from their corporate activity. For example, they need glass for their phones, and the glass company has to hire x amount of people to supply Apple's demand. The chain goes all the way down to raw materials.

It's probably not a very accurate number, but every big business touts similar numbers.
 
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Or maybe the lack of natural disasters, abundance of clean and cheap energy, abundance of land, and sweet tax deals.

Oh, and we're nice.

Being an Omaha native, I'll agree with the latter. Nice people there.

But lack of natural disasters, I disagree. Waukee being in the corridors for I-35 and I-80, two words for you: Tornado Alley. Yes, it's on the northern fringe of it, but natural disaster it is not without. I will say that at least they can predict tornados, and we get fair warning for them. Not so much for earthquakes in CA.

Facebook already has a data center in Iowa ;)

As does Google. Council Bluffs, to be exact.

BL.
 
NOT Rocket Science, Apple picked Iowa simply because Tim Cook plans on running for President down the road.
Ah yes. The new F22 Raptor with less on board ammo, thinner, less fuel, no headphone jacks, and all soldered together in one giant piece.

Our military will soon resemble the Apple line up.
 
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Maybe apple should just pay their fair share of taxes and quit asking for massive incentives (Cupertino) instead of saying they plan to GIVE millions away.

Define "fair share" and be sure to also cite the last time you paid a penny more than the minimum required on your taxes, even though I'm sure someone in the world thinks you should have paid more than that.
 
Oh lord. That canard again. Apple's "fair share" of taxes is what the law says it is. Maybe that's too low in your mind. Maybe you don't look kindly on the existing loopholes. But that is the law. So please let's not falsely imply that Apple is a tax cheat.

And whatever Apple itself pays in real estate and income taxes it also generates billions in tax revenue because of the # of people it employees directly and also indirectly though suppliers, transport, and other vendors. And all those employed people mean they are not on public assistance further burdening local and state coffers.
It reminds me of the similar "the rich need to pay their fair share!" adage. I assume that those that chant it don't realize that 50% of the taxes in this country are paid for by the top 1% earners. I want to say, "Take a look around... See all this infrastructure? Those roads? The mail lady that delivered your mail today? Yeah, the top 1% earners paid for half of it. A mere one percent of earners paid for half of all of it. Maybe the top 1% aren't so evil after all."

And to be fair, there are loopholes that need to be fixed. But long as they are there, there is nothing unlawful about using them to your advantage. Believe me, the IRS will come after you if you're unlawfully avoiding taxes. They love doing that. ;)
 
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Maybe apple should just pay their fair share of taxes and quit asking for massive incentives (Cupertino) instead of saying they plan to GIVE millions away.

They pay all the taxes they are legally obligated to pay. . . Just like you do.
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Or maybe the lack of natural disasters, abundance of clean and cheap energy, abundance of land, and sweet tax deals.

Oh, and we're nice.

We have tornadoes. I bet they'd do a number on a solar panel farm.
 
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They pay all the taxes they are legally obligated to pay. . . Just like you do.

What they do might be legal, but in no way is it "just like we do".

Most of us don't create shell entities all around the country / world, along with complicated intellectual property transfer schemes, in order to avoid paying taxes.

We have tornadoes. I bet they'd do a number on a solar panel farm.

Yikes.
 
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