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Apple Confirms Upcoming Retail Store at World Trade Center [Updated]
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The World Trade Center is an office complex. It was before 9/11, it is now. This isn't a store INSIDE THE MONUMENT or anything.
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Edit: having done some research, I see that the memorial site is surrounded by six huge skyscrapers. I think this is wrong. The whole site should have become a peaceful park with trees. I take back my humble pie. Greed and Mammon have still won.
MOST of those skyscrapers existed prior to 9/11, and simply weren't brought down in the attack, or subsequently due to collateral damage. Where do you draw the line with your solution? Do you lower the entirety of Manhattan out of "respect to the victims?"
The best response to terrorism is to rebuild, bigger, stronger and more grandiose. Memorials are fine, but it shouldn't look like we're wallowing in sadness 15 years on. That just sends the message that their attack had an impact, and encourages more.
The guy you quoted is still wrong. They do not occupy the same space as the towers. The memorials are quite a bit smaller (31%) than the footprint of the towers. It is something they like to hide.I eat humble pie.
Thought it was built on the same site as the original World Trade Centre. Thanks for enlightening me.
Edit: having done some research, I see that the memorial site is surrounded by six huge skyscrapers. I think this is wrong. The whole site should have become a peaceful park with trees. I take back my humble pie. Greed and Mammon have still won.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2005/12/1...nts.html?_r=0&referer=https://duckduckgo.com/
Is it nice? I assume it must be beautiful. I only live 2 hours away, I just hate NYC.
If that's your mind set, then I suggest you don't visit any of Apple's Ten stores they have in New York.
How is anybody complaining that they're rebuilding the WTC? Seriously is that how it works? Terrorists destroy something and then they own and define it forever? Don't let them win people, Jesus.
What the original poster was trying to say is that the pools are within the original footprints of the towers. I didn't think he literally meant the actual size of the original buildings. However, the memorial pools are within the same boundaries as the twin towers. That's the important part.
Furthermore as a native and current Brooklynite I'm glad our city rebuilt and taller than before (hence why One WTC is exactly 1776' - think about it).
The terrorist would want you to be defeated and scared but that's not the U.S and its definitely NOT New York. We will prosper and we'll return bigger than before. So happy to see companies moving into their new HQ's at One WTC! Business continues, terrorist punks.
Lastly for those that didn't know the WTC was a collection of buildings/complex. Like another poster said - some of those buildings also got destroyed or was mostly damaged. So rebuilding what was already there just made sense. Don't let the newer heights and shiny glass fool you. These buildings were there just getting updated for the most part.
By your reasoning, London should be a ghost town. I mean, all those deaths from WWII, it should be one giant memorial. And here in the US, we had the Civil War—again, we should just make the entire South and most of the North East a memorial and move those hundreds of millions of people out of there to the deserts of Arizona and show some respect for the fallen.
C'mon dude, use you common sense here.
It's not about being afraid of terrorists.
There are certain events that are so monstrous that we need to remember them. That is why Auschwitz still stands as a reminder. It doesn't remain as it is because Germans are too scared to build over it. It is there 'lest we forget'.
That new tower is just another glass eyesore. It doesn't even remotly capture the magnificence of the original World Trade Center. The best part of the original was the outdoor roof observation deck...now its just a sad indoor room. As someone who visited the original, it depresses me to see what is there now. The spirit of the WTC is dead and gone replaced with nothing more than standard office buildings and attractions designed to make lots of money. Rebuilding what was there or at least two taller towers that had the same square footage of the origonal would have been a victory. This is just sad greed and does not make up for what we lost. IMO.
"The most famous Indian sale of land to the Dutch took place in 1626, when Peter Minuit, director general of the Dutch West India Company, purchased Manhattan Island for goods valued at twenty-four dollars."
Who are we kidding...Manhattan was built on a foundation of greed.
why I would visit any apple store anyway, I can get better deals online...
Yep, I just do some research and take the best offer. Sorry for not being stupid, m8.
Snooty fan boys like to go to the Apple Store to feel special. It is where they sell the most Kool-Aid. The rest of us realize Amazon or B&H have the best prices for new Apple gear.
The Apple store is kind of....douchey if you ask me. Lets all pay full price and deal with Apples latest hipster tools trying to sell us watch bands. All I can do is laugh at the people in there. The only reason I can see going there is if you absolutely need something on launch day...other than that...your a fool to pay $499 for something that can be had brand new online for $449-$489. That doesn't even begin to reveal the next level of doucheyness that the Apple Store app brings. You buy online just to wait for some hipster to get to you and then wait to have them go an get it.....takes just as long to pickup something as it does to buy. But you feel special in the end so that makes it innovative.
Just saying.
Oh sorry. Did I do something wrong? Wtf. I hate people like you. That's how I really feel.
You really need to see the site before making that judgment. The site of the original towers are reflecting pools, there is a park next to those, an adjacent 9/11 memorial along the lines of the Berlin Holocaust museum, and the above-ground portion of the Occulus rising like a Phoenix. It's quite extraordinary. But this also is in the heart of NYC, a massive city on a tiny island, and there must be balance, else the terrorists would have changed the city more than we are willing to allow.
Also, as to your "target" point, this flies in the face of the New York personality. We want to be bold, daring, and defiant. It is important to us to have a tower taller than the ones that were destroyed, to call it One World Trade, and to use it for its intended purpose. It's who we are.
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It's agreed that there are sometimes better deals elsewhere, but no law insisting that Apple Stores must be visited. That's down to each person's choice! Personally, I will sometimes try an Apple device in an Apple Store and then buy it somewhere else (perhaps online) cheaper.
Regarding the 9/11 memorial, I think it is well done and the atmosphere and respect shown by visitors is heartfelt. In my opinion it works well being surrounded by new and existing skyscrapers, to bring the reality of the situation. But guess something this emotive will be down to personal feeling.
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If everyone is so bold, daring, and defiant......where is the second tower? NYC got screwed by the rich in this deal. They profit off the misery of others while NYC lost a landmark. One World Trade Center is a poor replacement for Yamasaki's mid century modern complex. That was something to look at! And that giant concrete "terrorist safe" base is a complete eyesore. There is no originality in that design. The first American tragedy was 9/11, the second was the building of what is there now. IMO New Yorkers desrved better.
I don't think the Germans necessarily get a say in what constructions stay or go in Poland. At least, not since 1945.
It's not far off at all. Do you want to see the outlines of the façades of the Twin Towers? Just look at the trees immediately surrounding the pools; those are the precise outlines.
I see that the memorial site is surrounded by six huge skyscrapers. I think this is wrong. The whole site should have become a peaceful park with trees. I take back my humble pie. Greed and Mammon have still won.
You've just spelt out a victory for terrorism. Whether you realise it or not, this kind of defeatist attitude encourages future terrorist acts; they knock things down and we build the grave.
That's a good thing in this case. The World Trade Center has been a symbol of commerce for over four decades, and 9/11 shan't change that.
Everything is a target, and the World Trade Center is less of a target than a dozen other NYC landmarks and attractions, since the terrorists have already had their victory there. I dare the terrorists to try again; we won't stand for it. I'm not above collateral damage in counterattacks of revenge.
If it's about 'respecting' the victims, then I can assure you that they don't care what we do there, as they've moved well beyond such earthly, mortal concerns. The memorial was actually built for the living mourners.
The Holocaust, alongside many other traumatic events throughout history, overshadow 9/11 to such a massive extent that it's a spit in the ocean in comparison; please read more history, specifically the horrors committed by mankind, and it will give you some perspective. 3,000+ innocent people are wrongfully slaughtered as a matter of course around the world. 9/11 gets a disproportionate amount of sympathy because American lives are considered more valuable than others (the powers that be won't admit it), it's a far rarer occurrence in the United States, and it was recent.
No! It is far off! 31% is a big number!
When someone tells me a fountain is the footprint of the original tower(s)...I want the original tower(s) footprint not some obscure reference to trees provided by some guy on a Mac forum. The whole point of the things is to give an impact and dimension to the place. If you don't have the proper scale, you don't have the proper impact.
Let's only put 69% of the names of victims on the pools wall. That's okay, right? It's close enough. You can just look up the names on the internet and that will suffice. Big deal!