Fact.I believe it was belief in God that caused the problem at the WTC in the first place...
Fact.I believe it was belief in God that caused the problem at the WTC in the first place...
Something about that seems so wrong to me...
(Note: I haven't been to or seen the site since the attacks)
Edit: having done some research, I see that the memorial site is surrounded by six huge skyscrapers. I think this is wrong. The whole site should have become a peaceful park with trees. I take back my humble pie. Greed and Mammon have still won.![]()
The guy you quoted is still wrong. They do not occupy the same space as the towers. The memorials are quite a bit smaller (31%) than the footprint of the towers. It is something they like to hide.I eat humble pie.
Thought it was built on the same site as the original World Trade Centre. Thanks for enlightening me.
Edit: having done some research, I see that the memorial site is surrounded by six huge skyscrapers. I think this is wrong. The whole site should have become a peaceful park with trees. I take back my humble pie. Greed and Mammon have still won.![]()
Something about that seems so wrong to me...
(Note: I haven't been to or seen the site since the attacks)
Is it nice? I assume it must be beautiful. I only live 2 hours away, I just hate NYC.You have to go there. Seriously.
I would never walk in place like that, that's a terrorist decoy
Tell us how you really feel.Is it nice? I assume it must be beautiful. I only live 2 hours away, I just hate NYC.
The guy you quoted is still wrong. They do not occupy the same space as the towers. The memorials are quite a bit smaller (31%) than the footprint of the towers. It is something they like to hide.
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I can see your reasoning, but the act of building even more commerce just strikes me as wilful and reactionary. The commerce can easily be rebuilt in any part of New York.
I would have preferred to see the US making a proper statement to honour the fallen. Greed has won, and in that sense, it offers another target for terrorists. If it were simply a park with beautiful trees, there would be no target. I feel for the families of those who died; they have been let down by New York.
What the original poster was trying to say is that the pools are within the original footprints of the towers. I didn't think he literally meant the actual size of the original buildings. However, the memorial pools are within the same boundaries as the twin towers. That's the important part.
Furthermore as a native and current Brooklynite I'm glad our city rebuilt and taller than before (hence why One WTC is exactly 1776' - think about it).
The terrorist would want you to be defeated and scared but that's not the U.S and its definitely NOT New York. We will prosper and we'll return bigger than before. So happy to see companies moving into their new HQ's at One WTC! Business continues, terrorist punks.
Lastly for those that didn't know the WTC was a collection of buildings/complex. Like another poster said - some of those buildings also got destroyed or was mostly damaged. So rebuilding what was already there just made sense. Don't let the newer heights and shiny glass fool you. These buildings were there just getting updated for the most part.
That new tower is just another glass eyesore. It doesn't even remotly capture the magnificence of the original World Trade Center. The best part of the original was the outdoor roof observation deck...now its just a sad indoor room. As someone who visited the original, it depresses me to see what is there now. The spirit of the WTC is dead and gone replaced with nothing more than standard office buildings and attractions designed to make lots of money. Rebuilding what was there or at least two taller towers that had the same square footage of the origonal would have been a victory. This is just sad greed and does not make up for what we lost. IMO.What the original poster was trying to say is that the pools are within the original footprints of the towers. I didn't think he literally meant the actual size of the original buildings. However, the memorial pools are within the same boundaries as the twin towers. That's the important part.
Furthermore as a native and current Brooklynite I'm glad our city rebuilt and taller than before (hence why One WTC is exactly 1776' - think about it).
The terrorist would want you to be defeated and scared but that's not the U.S and its definitely NOT New York. We will prosper and we'll return bigger than before. So happy to see companies moving into their new HQ's at One WTC! Business continues, terrorist punks.
Lastly for those that didn't know the WTC was a collection of buildings/complex. Like another poster said - some of those buildings also got destroyed or was mostly damaged. So rebuilding what was already there just made sense. Don't let the newer heights and shiny glass fool you. These buildings were there just getting updated for the most part.
I can see your reasoning, but the act of building even more commerce just strikes me as wilful and reactionary....Greed has won, and in that sense, it offers another target for terrorists. If it were simply a park with beautiful trees, there would be no target. I feel for the families of those who died; they have been let down by New York.
why I would visit any apple store anyway, I can get better deals online...If that's your mind set, then I suggest you don't visit any of Apple's Ten stores they have in New York.
why I would visit any apple store anyway, I can get better deals online...
Yep, I just do some research and take the best offer. Sorry for not being stupid, m8.Who said you had to buy anything in the Apple Store? Perhaps Walmart for you then?
Snooty fan boys like to go to the Apple Store to feel special. It is where they sell the most Kool-Aid. The rest of us realize Amazon or B&H have the best prices for new Apple gear.Yep, I just do some research and take the best offer. Sorry for not being stupid, m8.
Oh sorry. Did I do something wrong? Wtf. I hate people like you. That's how I really feel.Tell us how you really feel.
I can see your reasoning, but the act of building even more commerce just strikes me as wilful and reactionary. The commerce can easily be rebuilt in any part of New York.
I would have preferred to see the US making a proper statement to honour the fallen. Greed has won, and in that sense, it offers another target for terrorists. If it were simply a park with beautiful trees, there would be no target. I feel for the families of those who died; they have been let down by New York.
It's agreed that there are sometimes better deals elsewhere, but no law insisting that Apple Stores must be visited. That's down to each person's choice! Personally, I will sometimes try an Apple device in an Apple Store and then buy it somewhere else (perhaps online) cheaper.why I would visit any apple store anyway, I can get better deals online...
If everyone is so bold, daring, and defiant......where is the second tower? NYC got screwed by the rich in this deal. They profit off the misery of others while NYC lost a landmark. One World Trade Center is a poor replacement for Yamasaki's mid century modern complex. That was something to look at! And that giant concrete "terrorist safe" base is a complete eyesore. There is no originality in that design. The first American tragedy was 9/11, the second was the building of what is there now. IMO New Yorkers desrved better.You really need to see the site before making that judgment. The site of the original towers are reflecting pools, there is a park next to those, an adjacent 9/11 memorial along the lines of the Berlin Holocaust museum, and the above-ground portion of the Occulus rising like a Phoenix. It's quite extraordinary. But this also is in the heart of NYC, a massive city on a tiny island, and there must be balance, else the terrorists would have changed the city more than we are willing to allow.
Also, as to your "target" point, this flies in the face of the New York personality. We want to be bold, daring, and defiant. It is important to us to have a tower taller than the ones that were destroyed, to call it One World Trade, and to use it for its intended purpose. It's who we are.
There are certain events that are so monstrous that we need to remember them. That is why Auschwitz still stands as a reminder. It doesn't remain as it is because Germans are too scared to build over it. It is there 'lest we forget'.
The guy you quoted is still wrong. They do not occupy the same space as the towers. The memorials are quite a bit smaller (31%) than the footprint of the towers. It is something they like to hide.
I see that the memorial site is surrounded by six huge skyscrapers. I think this is wrong. The whole site should have become a peaceful park with trees. I take back my humble pie. Greed and Mammon have still won.![]()
the act of building even more commerce just strikes me as wilful and reactionary. The commerce can easily be rebuilt in any part of New York.
I would have preferred to see the US making a proper statement to honour the fallen. Greed has won, and in that sense, it offers another target for terrorists. If it were simply a park with beautiful trees, there would be no target. I feel for the families of those who died; they have been let down by New York.
It's not about being afraid of terrorists.
There are certain events that are so monstrous that we need to remember them. That is why Auschwitz still stands as a reminder. It doesn't remain as it is because Germans are too scared to build over it. It is there 'lest we forget'.
No! It is far off! 31% is a big number!It's not far off at all. Do you want to see the outlines of the façades of the Twin Towers? Just look at the trees immediately surrounding the pools; those are the precise outlines.