Apple Confirms Vision Pro is Not Eligible for Trade-In

[deaglecat]

A reasonable expectation (barring an Apple policy change), is that buyers of the M5 version, will also be left without an official Apple upgrade path.

 

[Michael Rebar]

Not surprised. M5 version seems nice but not worth the upgrade price without a trade-in. This will make the version 1 a great secondary market opportunity and spare parts available on units torn down by 3rd party teams that begin to explore it for expansion. Newton all over again - will be fun!

 

[Hajj.david]

Having developed iPhone and iPad apps myself I don’t think many devs will support the Vision Pro. Nowadays too many people think apps should be free. Subscription fatigue is a real thing.

Which dev is going to put himself €3500 in debt to buy the device and then spend a few weeks/months doing unpaid work on an app for a device that is (as good as) dead? Not to mention the horror of dealing with the AppStore review process.

At least with iPhone and iPad apps you know there is a huge market.

After developing android apps youll never complain about the appstore review process ever again. Holy hell Google makes it so painful. It took me almost 2 months to get an update approved. TWO MONTHS. And there is no support or anything or anyone to talk to.

 

[axantas]

I am very disappointed too, as my VisionPro has instantly become a usless, nonworking piece of old hardware. I am sitting here, looking at it and thinking of disposing it...

come on...

EDIT:
I am astonished about the many reactions. We are talking about a product apparently only 26 customers use, if you look at other threads regarding the AVP.

 

[furbzv1]

Next time y’all want to donate $3500, let me know, I’ll give you my apple pay or PayPal

 

[lovehateapple]

In addition, they don't want this "toy" to become available to the mass which lowers the value. Imagine the "I am special because I drive a Rolls Royce" being faded away when everyone in the world drives a Rolls and you no longer feel the "special" one.

I agree with your first point, but not with your second. Apple absolutely does want the VP and VR in general to become mass market devices. The problem is they couldn't produce it with the specs they wanted and sell it at the price needed to get their desired profit margin.

As a fan of VR I look forward to the day when I can afford a VP either because my income goes up or the price of a high resolution headset comes down. I understand this will take time. I for one, was disappointed to hear the rumor apple was discontinuing development of future VR headsets in favor of AR glasses. I am hopeful the release of Samsung's VR headset drives adoption the broader technology.

IMO your comparison to a Rolls Royce doesn't really apply because cars are a different class of product. In my case it doesn't have anything to do with being premium or "special," it only has to do with the quality of the experience. Therefore, depending on how good Samsung's headset is, I might be persuaded or compelled to buy one.

 

[zilchfox]

Honestly, there’s no reason to trade in an upgrade anyways. I’m sticking with my M2 model and I just simply got the new band. It works fine.

 

[Belisama]

Many products are not eligible for trade-in, including AirPods.

 

[dantay]

Ooof, we don’t want your sweaty old device back.

 

[vantelimus]

I am very disappointed too, as my VisionPro has instantly become a usless, nonworking piece of old hardware. I am sitting here, looking at it and thinking of disposing it...

come on...

The M2 AVP is neither useless nor nonworking. It does the same thing on 10/22 as it did on 10/21.

 

[1037]

They've got warehouses full of them they can't sell. Why would they want anymore?

 

[axantas]

The M2 AVP is neither useless nor nonworking. It does the same thing on 10/22 as it did on 10/21.

You are apparently wrong, if you look at the other reactions

Info for M2 users: Just updated to the newest developer Beta - the motion blur has been significantly reduced. It is almost back at the level of VisionOS 1xx.

 

[obsolescence_obsolete]

Review: M2 1TB AVP (Apple Vision Paperweight)

Works great! only day One though; would be cool to hear more from users working with it longterm.

“Belly-up” mode is the bomb; setup i.e. pulling the plug was a breeze.

A ~quarter pound heavier and it’d be perfect…

#ShotOnVisionPro

 

[azentropy]

Many products are not eligible for trade-in, including AirPods.

Sure, but AirPods didn't cost $3500+.

 

[terrapinjess]

Somewhat off-topic, but recently I've been thinking: maybe, just maybe, the "next big thing" isn't going to be in tech. Tim Cook, Sam Altman, and thousands of software developers are hoping to stake their legacy on new gadgets or experiences in the techsphere. The problem is, it's not organic; it's forced. The personal computer was a natural outgrowth of hobbyist computing in the 70s. The iPod was a natural evolution of the MP3 player market in the early aughts. Likewise, the iPhone (and smartphones in general) were a huge step forward.

The key is, those inventions (at least at the outset) were tools that gave enormous power and agency to individuals. They were so revolutionary because they implicitly worked to democratize the way people interacted, created and consumed. But AVP and AI are not, at their core, about democratizing access to anything, or giving individuals any more power than the tech behemoths decide. They're disguised as givers, but they're really takers. And I think, intuitively, most people understand this.

So maybe, the "rebels," the "round pegs in the square holes," should not be looking at the consumer tech sphere to make their mark on the world. We need solutions in clean energy, economics, social policy and fragile democratic governments the world around.

Maybe we devote more of our energies into that?

This is so good 👍🙏
I wish more people thought this way and had an ounce of compassion/empathy/brain cells to go in this direction.

 

[Paddle1]

Apple does this all the time with their iPhone's not having the latest features unless you have their latest device.

But the iPhone isn't $3500 and can be traded-in or resold.

 

[t0rqx]

Honest question: Do they expect more sales from a new version?

No. this is a desperate move to get rid of a s---load of stock components.

 

[Macalicious2011]

This decision must be because of hygiene reasons.

However it’s not great and burns bridges with existing owners who are now less likely to buy the new model.

 

[bmark]

But the iPhone isn't $3500 and can be traded-in or resold.

Not yet until the iFlop comes out!

 

[Paddle1]

The have 'punished early adopters' on multiple previous occasions. Apple are experts at it.

Yes, but it's particularly impactful when it's a $3500 product that has bad resale value and limited support to begin with.

 

[BornAgainMac]

I was considering getting the Vision Pro M5 but now I am hesitant after seeing this post.

 

[BornAgainMac]

Especially when they charge $300 for the developer strap. The sheer nerve of Apple…

Developer strap? That sounds perverted in the context with the no trade in value for customers.

 

[indychris]

Looking at the recent stories, if they paint an accurate picture, it's a bit hard to not be a little down on Apple right now. Apple won't take the first gen AV on trade on anything, iPhone 17 Air sales are virtually non-existent. Apple's A20 chip will be 'significantly' more expensive. Apple's flagship iPhones may have an issue with the anodizing. GM dropping CarPlay in all vehicles. UK putting more demands on Apple, to which Apple will likely cave.

I'm not saying that Apple is going anywhere anytime soon, but things just don't seem to be trending in the right direction right now as I see it.

 

[ZipZap]

Most will just sell to the market are a 50+% loss. Likely Apples plan to drive further interest.

 

[DownUnderDan]

They can barely sell any as it is. Why would they want them back?