I said no to Chrome and the rest of Google when it constantly tried to install itself on my Dad’s PC.
It just seemed shady.
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Apple Considering Dropping Requirement for iPhone Web Browsers to Use WebKit
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It just seemed shady.
I’ll only use Safari anyway.
If any other browser chews through battery life then they won’t be popular.
If any other browser chews through battery life then they won’t be popular.
Sometimes it’s best to think before you speak.
That is the intended *point* of what the EU is trying to do. Sure governments can often be a bit mis-guided and make some poor decisions but they're at least trying to "do it for the people". So I'm somewhat bemused by people saying Apple should tell them to f-off and "stick it to the man" when clearly here "the man" is Apple and the EU are trying to speak for "the people". 🤷♂️
And Edge is the only browser on the Xbox.
Will consoles be forced to allow “side loading”, third party app stores and third party browsers too?
If not, then this screaming at iOS is hypocritical.
A heterogeneous situation is not always liberating. Apple had early on adapted Safari to HTML6 at a time when many were still using proprietary plug-ins (Flash for example), many of which you didn't want but still needed.
Currently I observe under Safari that many Google recommendation sites cannot be opened. I do not care why, I then ignore Google's tips.
Google pursues with Chrome of course own interests, which do not always coincide with those of all users.
When you need another browser to display a page, the simple world of us users starts to fall apart.
Whether the architecture of Safari is the non plus ultra, one may discuss, but to wish for new browsers jubilantly seems to me a bit naive and oblivious to history.
But admittedly, I too used to think it was chic to be on the road with onion or similar niche products. But I don't have time for that anymore. I want a browser for which you can write any complex pages, which is stable and fast.
I have really tried a lot of junk in the last decades, I like Safari on all devices (Mac iPad and iPhone) very much today.
Currently I observe under Safari that many Google recommendation sites cannot be opened. I do not care why, I then ignore Google's tips.
Google pursues with Chrome of course own interests, which do not always coincide with those of all users.
When you need another browser to display a page, the simple world of us users starts to fall apart.
Whether the architecture of Safari is the non plus ultra, one may discuss, but to wish for new browsers jubilantly seems to me a bit naive and oblivious to history.
But admittedly, I too used to think it was chic to be on the road with onion or similar niche products. But I don't have time for that anymore. I want a browser for which you can write any complex pages, which is stable and fast.
I have really tried a lot of junk in the last decades, I like Safari on all devices (Mac iPad and iPhone) very much today.
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And that's completely fine. A choice will be given that is great for the others.
I'm just afraid Google may have a major impact on the battery life and the RAM usage.
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it's not a problem , if it works fine for you it still will
Video game consoles are a niche in comparison but keep clinging onto defending a company who only wants your money.
They’re the same thing. You just can’t put them in your pocket and use them as a phone. 😜
And actually Microsoft makes more of my money from software than Apple does, so saying that I’m some kind of brainwashed Apple fan boy ain’t going to rub.
To me that’s a problem with those sites. Safari has a large enough user base that sites should be testing for compatibility. Personally I’m not going to keep multiple browsers installed just because they can’t test.
I would honestly love access to real chrome on my iOS devices. It won’t matter for most people, but I use a lot of sites that just don’t function well in anything but Chrome (niche online games and other nerdy things that won’t affect 99.9% of the population).
I’m not sure if Chrome on Android is weird/different though, like a mobile version of the code. If so doesn’t really help I guess lol
I’m not sure if Chrome on Android is weird/different though, like a mobile version of the code. If so doesn’t really help I guess lol
I remember the days of “this site only works with Internet Explorer” and am not keen to return to them. That could be an unfortunate side effect of this and would realistically be “not having a choice”. Imagine if Amazon only worked with Chrome because it saved them engineering resources?
I think a lot of the EU decisions sound good on paper, but the potential repercussions of these decisions aren’t fully thought out. Fingers crossed this goes well though!
Reminds me of a quote from Mathis in Quantum of Solace
"the heroes and villains get all mixed up"
But how is this a problem? They aren’t removing Safari and you can still use it. Nothing will change for you and @WestonHarvey1
You don't solve for that by locking folks into a vendor choice (like we have now with iOS/iPadOS)
Sadly, I can see Apple opening everything up like WebKit, NFC, USB-C in the EU only to comply and making the rest of the world use what we have now.
That is definitely something Apple would do.
That is definitely something Apple would do.
Great, so it can be stupidly slow, suck up all your memory, and then never patch bugs for years, while just redesigning the look every couple months, like their desktop app.
Safari/Webkit will still be pre-installed on iPhones no doubt, so my understanding is Google make you put that on for certification, but any user can install whatever else you'd like as well. Whereas currently Apple won't let you at all: you *must* use safari/webkit no matter what. Or am I missing something?
The trick here is what will happen with in app browsers. If this is limited to traditional web browsers, I don't see a problem. But if every app can bundle their own browser engine for in app browsing, then I would be worried.
Hopefully it does! That's the best possible outcome for everyone involved. The web needs to work.