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Apple Considering Dropping Requirement for iPhone Web Browsers to Use WebKit
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Okay so keep using only their products and services.
It made sense in the iPhone 4 days where chromium would probably have tanked the battery and performance. The limitation doesn’t make much sense in 2022
Please stay on topic. That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
Sure. But as pointed out earlier, its not that easy. I have absolutely no problem with Chrome being released on iOS with its own browser engine.
I do have a problem if non-browsers use this requirement to flood the app selection with non-native apps that ruin the iOS user experience.
Webkit IS competitive ... its using open source as a standard.
Man I swear nobody knows nor recalls nor even took the time to look at mobile browsing on phones or smartphones prior to 2007?!!!
1. J2ME browsers ruled the day on feature phones
Feature phones: SonyEricsson (SE), Nokia S40 phones, Java phones and anything from LG, Samsung, etc under $200 prior to 2010.
Browsers: native to Nokia or SE while others used J2ME-based browsers like Opera Mini, etc.
2. WebKit Browsers on devices:
The very FIRST implementation was created by engineers at Google and Apple (very hard now to find the source of this as the internet keeps overwriting facts). The first use in a smartphone was indeed on the Nokia S60 (Symbian OS based) smartphone model called the N80/N80 Golf Edition. The next model was featured on the Nokia E61 ... which you ALL say during Steve Jobs original iPhone presentation. Guess what?
Apple worked with Nokia to create that browser that had a feature called Mini-Map which showed a zoomed-in section within a 1/3RD box on the small 2.3" screen that made it easier to view the full web-page versus showing a full screened zoomed in web-page, which was also an option. Jobs incorrectly and falsely stated that Nokia's S60 Browser's MiniMap was the 'baby internet' ... (babyinternet = wap2.0) ... this was FALSE. Nokia's S60 browser rendered pages exactly as the iPhone's webkit browser - as each used the same Webkit engine. Just Nokia had a VERY small screen.
This has been a standard over a decade and still is.
What is NOT being questioned or looked into here is:
what customizations are the Chrome/Edge and FireFox browsers' are using native only to each that should be considered as non-standard and proprietary to lead to other restrictions against them?
This in addition to being forced to allow 3rd party stores (reducing the height of the garden walls) could literally crush Android.
Apple literally having further greatness thrust upon them.
Apple literally having further greatness thrust upon them.
Imagine that in ****ing 2022, no other web engine than WebKit is allowed on ****ing iOS. That makes Microsoft from the early 2000's and their EU problems over Internet Explorer look like amateurs.
Besides web browsers, imagine how innovation in apps has been annihilated on iOS because of Apple and their ever growing and changing rules the size of a book to have the luxury to be available on the app store. In the current state, the only innovation permitted is the one Apple allows. Until of course stealing (or copying it) it from its own products.
Thanks to the EU, iPhone and iPad will get closer to being general purpose computers instead of mere 1000$ appliances.
Besides web browsers, imagine how innovation in apps has been annihilated on iOS because of Apple and their ever growing and changing rules the size of a book to have the luxury to be available on the app store. In the current state, the only innovation permitted is the one Apple allows. Until of course stealing (or copying it) it from its own products.
Thanks to the EU, iPhone and iPad will get closer to being general purpose computers instead of mere 1000$ appliances.
Cue the moaning of it being an unfair comparison because consoles are typically sold as loss-leaders. 🙄
Cmon, let me download Steam and my Steam library on Xbox. It’s the same CPU architecture, same system kernel and same Direct X APIs so should be easy to run a virtualisation layer to let my PC games run on an Xbox.
If iOS is going to be forced to allow side loading and third party app stores then same should go for Xbox and PlayStation.
I think while it sounds like a good idea, I do worry it will result in too much storage space being used up by another web browser with its own web layout engine (Chrome uses Blink, Firefox uses Gecko). Maybe switching iOS to use the Google "Blink" layout engine would be a better idea--maybe!
And if something doesn’t work in Safari but does in another browser wouldn’t that force Apple to keep improving Webkit?
The restriction never made any sense to me other than to be heavy-handed for no reason.
It’s already a great browser. Adding to to windows is not going to help when chromium already had almost 80% market share.
Just don't any Apps that are doing things you don't like
The answer is not "restrict everyones App choices to only what Apple wants"
The only reason I HAD to upgrade an iOS 9 device is because it was locked to an old version of WebKit which made it pretty unusable on the internet.
The sooner we can break free of the WebKit shackles, the better.
The sooner we can break free of the WebKit shackles, the better.